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Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:10 pm

Is it just me or am I missing something. He's out of contract end of the season and instead of getting a small fee they are loaning him out? What's that all about? Sorry if I sound stupid :lol: I just don't get it

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:19 pm

Valleybluebird wrote:Is it just me or am I missing something. He's out of contract end of the season and instead of getting a small fee they are loaning him out? What's that all about? Sorry if I sound stupid :lol: I just don't get it


probably sir spew not wanting to pay cash for him! saving his pennies for championship? :laughing6:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:21 pm

Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:27 pm

NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:32 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:32 pm

Great signing for the Jacks if true, although it's all over twatter at the moment that West Ham and Fulham are also in for him.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:33 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:33 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year! :thumbup:
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them :thumbright:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:37 pm

pembroke allan wrote:genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year! :thumbup:
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them :thumbright:


Sounds sensible then. If they stay up they will pay the rest, if they dont they will snare him at a fraction of the price Malky was going to shell out :lol:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:37 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


He didn't seem too keen on him in fairness when asked in an interview. I think he said he's a talent from what i recall. Seems more of a Jenkins signing. I would love to show you the link but I really can't be bothered at this time.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:39 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year! :thumbup:
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them :thumbright:


You're right. Makes far more sense to pay say £8m for a player who you're stuck with for three or four years on £45k a week.........don't understand Huw's thinking at all

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
He didn't seem too keen on him in fairness when asked in an interview. I think he said he's a talent from what i recall. Seems more of a Jenkins signing. I would love to show you the link but I really can't be bothered at this time.


Just a guess then based on him calling him "a talent" :lol:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:41 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


True or not, who knows, who cares.......

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... wansea-job

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 pm

Everton are in for him now, hardly surprising after Oviedo's horrific injury yesterday.
I believe he was linked there before?

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 pm

Can someone explain to me how you would get first refusal on a player that would be out of contract?

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
He didn't seem too keen on him in fairness when asked in an interview. I think he said he's a talent from what i recall. Seems more of a Jenkins signing. I would love to show you the link but I really can't be bothered at this time.


Just a guess then based on him calling him "a talent" :lol:


Any footballer is a talent really, you would have to watch the clip as that's all he had to say. He can't really go responding to a question on what he thinks of Ince by saying he's not what Swansea want because he's one of England's darlings.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem. :?

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year! :thumbup:
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them :thumbright:


You're right. Makes far more sense to pay say £8m for a player who you're stuck with for three or four years on £45k a week.........don't understand Huw's thinking at all


just told you spews thinking? not hard to work out ! :laughing6:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 pm

£1m loan fee for Ince

£1.5m loan fee for Zaha

Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.

It'll be interesting to see how they both do.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 pm

64JACK wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem. :?


Yeah I read that aswell, good sense loaning him to test him.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:45 pm

Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince

£1.5m loan fee for Zaha

Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.

It'll be interesting to see how they both do.


The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm

Kiffa wrote:Can someone explain to me how you would get first refusal on a player that would be out of contract?


you cant! unless ince gave his word which tbh doubt it, as arsenal ect ect could come in and who do you think he would choose? :laughing6:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince

£1.5m loan fee for Zaha

Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.

It'll be interesting to see how they both do.


The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were


Only if he decides to sign on with you which is by no means guaranteed, especially if he does well or if you get relegated

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm

64JACK wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem. :?


Are you sure you're a jack? It's just you often seem so, well, normal :lol:

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:48 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.



Time will tell, he will probably go to a bigger club like Fulham or Everton....

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:48 pm

Gonzo wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:
Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince

£1.5m loan fee for Zaha

Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.

It'll be interesting to see how they both do.


The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were


Only if he decides to sign on with you which is by no means guaranteed, especially if he does well or if you get relegated


He would have already signed a pre commitment contract prior to a loan to a permanent view in this scenario, no doubt about that.

The choice is down to us.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:49 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
64JACK wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.

Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.

If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.


Huw Jenkins. Genius.


Shame laudrup doesn't want him.


Source?


I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem. :?


Are you sure you're a jack? It's just you often seem so, well, normal :lol:


Agree. Quite shocked how unbiased you are.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:52 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:Agree. Quite shocked how unbiased you are.


Its Roathie FFS. :lol:

A jack with well constructed articulate posts - its either Roathie or scotsjack.

Simple as that.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:55 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Agree. Quite shocked how unbiased you are.


Its Roathie FFS. :lol:

A jack with well constructed articulate posts - its either Roathie or scotsjack.

Simple as that.


64jack isn't roath. The norgblue thing is.

Re: Strange one ince to jacks on loan??

Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:57 pm

NorgBlue wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
NorgBlue wrote:
Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince

£1.5m loan fee for Zaha

Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.

It'll be interesting to see how they both do.


The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were


Only if he decides to sign on with you which is by no means guaranteed, especially if he does well or if you get relegated


He would have already signed a pre commitment contract prior to a loan to a permanent view in this scenario, no doubt about that.

The choice is down to us.

but would he sign commitment to you if 1, doesnt know manager next season, 2,as you got possibility of being relegated? seems odd thing to do , would you do it in his shoes??