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Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:41 am

Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:43 am

I feel the same as you, I hope Ole proves us wrong.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:43 am

kimble wrote:Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

So because you don't know who they are it means they ain't good enough does it :lol:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:45 am

He has OK stats on Football Manager 2014 :D

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:47 am

have you heard of them before?

lack of experience springs to mind

don't be so shallow with your replies

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:53 am

I'm underwhelmed with the Premier League, full stop.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:56 am

Bluebird86 wrote:
kimble wrote:Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

So because you don't know who they are it means they ain't good enough does it :lol:


He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership. He's also only had 3 caps for Norway, which at 23 suggests he isn't quite up to our level, unless Norway have some really good midfielders keeping him out? If he isn't even good enough to make the Norway squad who lost to Scotland 1-0 in November, I am doubtful he will be good enough to improve our squad at the moment. But of course, I will wait until I see him play before making a proper judgement and I do hope he surprises me to prove my initial thoughts wrong.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:04 am

Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:06 am

Also have you considered the fact maybe they're good players just playing for a poor nation?
Henrikh Mkhitaryan is an absolute talent and he plays for Armenia, lol

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:12 am

PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


How you can compare Torres/Suarez who were 2 big names in football playing in quality leagues before Liverpool signed them to a 23 year old unknown who only has 3 caps for Norway and plays for a team who came 6th in the Norwegian league last season is absolutely baffling. :lol:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:13 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


How you can compare Torres/Suarez who were 2 big names in football playing in quality leagues before Liverpool signed them to a 23 year old unknown who only has 3 caps for Norway and plays for a team who came 6th in the Norwegian league last season is absolutely baffling. :lol:

Seamus Coleman didn't have any PL experience before joining Everton :?: :?:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:17 am

Again I'm not sure what would make people happy - there will always be people who are critical regardless of experience of a player.

I see it as signing young players who are hungry with everything to prove who also know what kind of football OGS wants to play. If we end up with Fabio and Zaha - I see again very hungry players to prove Man U wrong and will work that much more to prove themselves. Then we of course have the current squad looking to step up their own game to keep spots.

I think OGS is great at motivating, and I see the signings and potential signings as proof as that.

Of course it's risky, but any moves in this postion would be considered just that.

As always this is all very premature ;) I could totally be seeing this incorrectly of course - but I hope I'm not! :D

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:19 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership.


Bundesliga > La Liga > Serie A > Portuguese Premier > Premier league.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:21 am

Svenman87 wrote:Again I'm not sure what would make people happy - there will always be people who are critical regardless of experience of a player.

I see it as signing young players who are hungry with everything to prove who also know what kind of football OGS wants to play. If we end up with Fabio and Zaha - I see again very hungry players to prove Man U wrong and will work that much more to prove themselves. Then we of course have the current squad looking to step up their own game to keep spots.

I think OGS is great at motivating, and I see the signings and potential signings as proof as that.

Of course it's risky, but any moves in this postion would be considered just that.

As always this is all very premature ;) I could totally be seeing this incorrectly of course - but I hope I'm not! :D

We're not allowed to sign young players willing to succeed and have a team for years to come, we've gotta sign Zamora/Andy Johnson on 80k a week to keep the fans happy

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:24 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
kimble wrote:Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

So because you don't know who they are it means they ain't good enough does it :lol:


He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership. He's also only had 3 caps for Norway, which at 23 suggests he isn't quite up to our level, unless Norway have some really good midfielders keeping him out? If he isn't even good enough to make the Norway squad who lost to Scotland 1-0 in November, I am doubtful he will be good enough to improve our squad at the moment. But of course, I will wait until I see him play before making a proper judgement and I do hope he surprises me to prove my initial thoughts wrong.

Diego Forlan had an unsuccessful spell at man utd then went an smashed la liga.
An just because a player isn't picked for an international squad does not mean he's a bad player.
Frazier Campbell is no where near the England squad, should we sell him?

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:24 am

PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


What a stupid comparison. :lol:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:25 am

PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


Oh wow. :lol:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:27 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


Oh wow. :lol:

f**k off Chuckles you moanbag

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:33 am

PartyWithOle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


How you can compare Torres/Suarez who were 2 big names in football playing in quality leagues before Liverpool signed them to a 23 year old unknown who only has 3 caps for Norway and plays for a team who came 6th in the Norwegian league last season is absolutely baffling. :lol:

Seamus Coleman didn't have any PL experience before joining Everton :?: :?:


Seamus Coleman was 19 when he signed for Everton and went to Blackpool for experience to improve his game and develop further. He's a fantastic right back now, but it took him years to get up to performing at his current level consistantly. This Norwegian we are signing is 23, the same age as Coleman but he has never established himself at a level as high as the Premiership and you wouldn't think he would develop much further as a player at 23. You can't compare Coleman, who was signed at a younger age for the future to this Norwegian, who we are signing to improve our team right now.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:37 am

Bluebird86 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
kimble wrote:Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

So because you don't know who they are it means they ain't good enough does it :lol:


He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership. He's also only had 3 caps for Norway, which at 23 suggests he isn't quite up to our level, unless Norway have some really good midfielders keeping him out? If he isn't even good enough to make the Norway squad who lost to Scotland 1-0 in November, I am doubtful he will be good enough to improve our squad at the moment. But of course, I will wait until I see him play before making a proper judgement and I do hope he surprises me to prove my initial thoughts wrong.

Diego Forlan had an unsuccessful spell at man utd then went an smashed la liga.
An just because a player isn't picked for an international squad does not mean he's a bad player.
Frazier Campbell is no where near the England squad, should we sell him?


Diego Forlan never had a run of games for Man Utd and the the pace and physicality of the British game didn't suit his style of play, just like Velikonja. England are a better team than Norway. Comparing the standard of England's strikers ahead of Campbell to Norway's midfielders ahead of this guy we're signing is silly.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:43 am

PartyWithOle wrote:
Svenman87 wrote:Again I'm not sure what would make people happy - there will always be people who are critical regardless of experience of a player.

I see it as signing young players who are hungry with everything to prove who also know what kind of football OGS wants to play. If we end up with Fabio and Zaha - I see again very hungry players to prove Man U wrong and will work that much more to prove themselves. Then we of course have the current squad looking to step up their own game to keep spots.

I think OGS is great at motivating, and I see the signings and potential signings as proof as that.

Of course it's risky, but any moves in this postion would be considered just that.

As always this is all very premature ;) I could totally be seeing this incorrectly of course - but I hope I'm not! :D

We're not allowed to sign young players willing to succeed and have a team for years to come, we've gotta sign Zamora/Andy Johnson on 80k a week to keep the fans happy


We're not in the position to gamble on youngsters who might come good in the future. We need players who can come in, hit the ground running and improve our team now to keep us up. As I said in another thread, Wes Hoolahan wants to leave Norwich, or even someone like Tim Cahill who is still fit as a fiddle at 34, would bring us the experience, drive and leadership qualities to help get us results.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:54 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:
Svenman87 wrote:Again I'm not sure what would make people happy - there will always be people who are critical regardless of experience of a player.

I see it as signing young players who are hungry with everything to prove who also know what kind of football OGS wants to play. If we end up with Fabio and Zaha - I see again very hungry players to prove Man U wrong and will work that much more to prove themselves. Then we of course have the current squad looking to step up their own game to keep spots.

I think OGS is great at motivating, and I see the signings and potential signings as proof as that.

Of course it's risky, but any moves in this postion would be considered just that.

As always this is all very premature ;) I could totally be seeing this incorrectly of course - but I hope I'm not! :D

We're not allowed to sign young players willing to succeed and have a team for years to come, we've gotta sign Zamora/Andy Johnson on 80k a week to keep the fans happy


We're not in the position to gamble on youngsters who might come good in the future. We need players who can come in, hit the ground running and improve our team now to keep us up. As I said in another thread, Wes Hoolahan wants to leave Norwich, or even someone like Tim Cahill who is still fit as a fiddle at 34, would bring us the experience, drive and leadership qualities to help get us results.

We're not in a position to spend big either because Malky Mackhoofball pissed away the budget

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:57 am

Metal Handkerchief wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership.


Bundesliga > La Liga > Serie A > Portuguese Premier > Premier league.


f**k my eyes

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:59 am

Simonsays wrote:
Metal Handkerchief wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership.


Bundesliga > La Liga > Serie A > Portuguese Premier > Premier league.


f**k my eyes


You couldn't make it up could you? They're out in force today. :lol:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:01 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


Oh wow. :lol:

f**k off Chuckles you moanbag


No. Stop making such silly statements. :laughing6:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:02 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Fernando Torres/Luis Suarez never played in the Prem before they came here, bet Liverpool regret signing em


Oh wow. :lol:

f**k off Chuckles you moanbag


No. Stop making such silly statements. :laughing6:


I think he was being sarcastic.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:04 pm

I'm not on about the sarcastic ending to his post, I'm on about him comparing Torres/Suarez to the Norwegian signings. Both those players had already built up a considerable reputation before joining the premier league. :laughing6:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:08 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
kimble wrote:Another little known signing from Norway another 23yr old with no premiership experience...I do fear we are preparing for the championship?

So because you don't know who they are it means they ain't good enough does it :lol:


He had an unsuccessful spell for Udinese in Serie A which in my opinion, is a lesser standard league than the Premiership. He's also only had 3 caps for Norway, which at 23 suggests he isn't quite up to our level, unless Norway have some really good midfielders keeping him out? If he isn't even good enough to make the Norway squad who lost to Scotland 1-0 in November, I am doubtful he will be good enough to improve our squad at the moment. But of course, I will wait until I see him play before making a proper judgement and I do hope he surprises me to prove my initial thoughts wrong.

Diego Forlan had an unsuccessful spell at man utd then went an smashed la liga.
An just because a player isn't picked for an international squad does not mean he's a bad player.
Frazier Campbell is no where near the England squad, should we sell him?


Diego Forlan never had a run of games for Man Utd and the the pace and physicality of the British game didn't suit his style of play, just like Velikonja. England are a better team than Norway. Comparing the standard of England's strikers ahead of Campbell to Norway's midfielders ahead of this guy we're signing is silly.

No saying he's not good enough because he hasn't been picked for his national side is silly.
Look at the players Coleman picks.
An thanks for proving my point about different players suiting different leagues.

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:11 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:I'm not on about the sarcastic ending to his post, I'm on about him comparing Torres/Suarez to the Norwegian signings. Both those players had already built up a considerable reputation before joining the premier league. :laughing6:


Well obviously banging goals for Athletico and Ajax doesn't mean you're destined to be a world class player. :laughing5:

Re: Are you underwhelmed by lack of Premiership experience

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:19 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:
Svenman87 wrote:Again I'm not sure what would make people happy - there will always be people who are critical regardless of experience of a player.

I see it as signing young players who are hungry with everything to prove who also know what kind of football OGS wants to play. If we end up with Fabio and Zaha - I see again very hungry players to prove Man U wrong and will work that much more to prove themselves. Then we of course have the current squad looking to step up their own game to keep spots.

I think OGS is great at motivating, and I see the signings and potential signings as proof as that.

Of course it's risky, but any moves in this postion would be considered just that.

As always this is all very premature ;) I could totally be seeing this incorrectly of course - but I hope I'm not! :D

We're not allowed to sign young players willing to succeed and have a team for years to come, we've gotta sign Zamora/Andy Johnson on 80k a week to keep the fans happy


We're not in the position to gamble on youngsters who might come good in the future. We need players who can come in, hit the ground running and improve our team now to keep us up. As I said in another thread, Wes Hoolahan wants to leave Norwich, or even someone like Tim Cahill who is still fit as a fiddle at 34, would bring us the experience, drive and leadership qualities to help get us results.

We're not in a position to spend big either because Malky Mackhoofball pissed away the budget


We don't have to spend big to bring in experience. We could try loaning Tim Cahill from New York for a few months as the MLS season is over now. He's still fit as a fiddle and would give us the quality, drive and leadership qualities to help get us results.