Very Dangerous

So now we want to sell/drop many/most of our players who got us promoted. Doh! Yes - there is a big difference between the Championship and the Premiership. However, we gained success through hard work and a great together work ethic. Rip this apart at your peril. We all want to see flowing football but now is also the time to dig in and not so readily disregard Witts Gunner, Kimbo, Cowie, Turner etc. it takes all kinds to make a world.

We're bottom of the premier if you hadn't noticed.

Underperforming players who are hampering are progress. We're keeping a few of the players that got us promoted but there's no room for sentiment here, if they aren't good enough then it's time to go.

We need players who can set the league alight. If we want to stay out of the bottom 5

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

when you say weaker sides i assume you include west ham in that remark

Point taken there Jaws. But I hope you appreciate at least part of what I am saying. It can't be all change.

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

That's not what is happening, he's using the likes of Noone, Mutch, John & Kimbo etc in his system. If anything we're playing better football, we just need a clinical finisher.

Point taken there Jaws. But I hope you appreciate at least part of what I am saying. It can't be all change.

of course,three or four change's and a different approach.Down to ole now i just hope he pulls it off.

So now we want to sell/drop many/most of our players who got us promoted. Doh! Yes - there is a big difference between the Championship and the Premiership. However, we gained success through hard work and a great together work ethic. Rip this apart at your peril. We all want to see flowing football but now is also the time to dig in and not so readily disregard Witts Gunner, Kimbo, Cowie, Turner etc. it takes all kinds to make a world.

its football............did you want malky to play kiernon, gypres, naylor, parkin when he arrived?
did you want him to play Campbel,kimbo,mutch,cowie,gunner wen they arrived..............
football is about here and now.............the days of having 11 that fans cud name 2 days b4 the game are gone,those were the days you cud build..but clubs had the power to keep players bck then too..........no players demanding moves..no out of contract bosmans

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

Whittingham. ...a dog of war???

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

Whittingham. ...a dog of war???

Yes but we have been very competitive against tough opposition and have to play weaker sides. You just can't change whole systems and personnel in such a short space of time and expect the desired outcomes readily. It can't be Attack attack attack. Get real. You need dome dogs of war.

Whittingham. ...a dog of war???

The Pekinese of Ping Pong more like

Underperforming players who are hampering are progress. We're keeping a few of the players that got us promoted but there's no room for sentiment here, if they aren't good enough then it's time to go.

There is a difference between sentiment and shitting on players that were class last year and haven't been given a chance this year.

What is the point in following players careers if you throw them away on a whim. Fans with such fickle attitudes stop players joining clubs, as they know whatever they do, when they leave they'll be disregarded.

We'll be lucky to have Taylor, Gunnar etc if we go down. 100% commitment.

Underperforming players who are hampering are progress. We're keeping a few of the players that got us promoted but there's no room for sentiment here, if they aren't good enough then it's time to go.

There is a difference between sentiment and shitting on players that were class last year and haven't been given a chance this year.

What is the point in following players careers if you throw them away on a whim. Fans with such fickle attitudes stop players joining clubs, as they know whatever they do, when they leave they'll be disregarded.

We'll be lucky to have Taylor, Gunnar etc if we go down. 100% commitment.

And the prize for the most ridiculous post today goes to......Willy Wanka

You do realise we are rock bottom and that tactic has not worked you just got to point and laugh at some people

Before the start of last season I set a prediction that we would finish 10th. In short I didnt think we would end up in the Play Offs never mind go up as Champions. But, as the OP said, it was hard work that got us there and we deserved it.

The players who got us there did however outperform themselves and it is perhaps a little too much to ask them to make that extra step again on top.

The Premiership is a totally different kettle of fish. Sentiment and loyalty will not keep you up and unfortunately those players who took us up may not make the Premiership grade.

As a club we are only as good as our weakest link and, week in week out, we need to be shipping players in and allowing our weakest player to go. This is the only way to guarantee Premiership football.

When your arse is on fire its time to call the Fire Brigade and f**k the sentiment!

What is the point in following players careers if you throw them away on a whim.

This is the real world, not a football card trading game where you just keep collecting them and utilise them when you need to do so. You may be Willy Wonka when it comes to chocolate but you're definitely Silly Plonka when it comes to football discussion.

Underperforming players who are hampering are progress. We're keeping a few of the players that got us promoted but there's no room for sentiment here, if they aren't good enough then it's time to go.

There is a difference between sentiment and shitting on players that were class last year and haven't been given a chance this year.

What is the point in following players careers if you throw them away on a whim. Fans with such fickle attitudes stop players joining clubs, as they know whatever they do, when they leave they'll be disregarded.

We'll be lucky to have Taylor, Gunnar etc if we go down. 100% commitment.

most people follow clubs not players or managers..
and players do not join clubs because they like the fans. in fact many players have signed for the local rivals of the team they support in spite of the fans...............

this post ranks along with your...cant wait for ole to lose a few games.HAHAHA post...........

Really good debate and interesting different opinions. Well done lads. This is how it should be.
You know I'm right though don't you