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Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:54 pm

According to the Sunderland Echo...

SUNDERLAND’S interest in Nacho Scocco appears to have cooled, with Cardiff City now in pole position for the Argentine winger.

Scocco has been on Sunderland’s radar throughout this transfer window – as the 28-year-old was during the summer – with the Black Cats’ interest confirmed by both the forward’s agent and his father.

Sunderland are thought to have made a formal enquiry with Brazilian club Internacional earlier in the month over Scocco’s availability.

But the Echo understands that Internacional held a meeting with Scocco and his agent yesterday and there was no mention of any further interest from Sunderland.

However, fellow strugglers Cardiff City are thought to have made an enquiry and Internacional are now waiting for a concrete bid from the Premier League’s basement boys.

Gus Poyet has refused to comment on the speculation regarding Scocco, but the head coach appeared to brush off Sunderland’s interest when asked by the Echo last week.

Scocco, who netted 30 goals in 46 appearances for Argentine side Newell’s Old Boys last season, would command a significant outlay in terms of wages, while Internacional are looking for a transfer fee in excess of £5million.

While Internacional are likely to accept a lower figure, given Scocco is keen to leave the club, it would still require a significant outlay from Sunderland, who have been cautious over stretching themselves financially in this window, given their Premier League status is in such jeopardy.

And although Sunderland are on the verge of sealing a deal for Argentine centre-half Santiago Vergini, Poyet has been keen to land players with experience of English football, who are able to hit the ground running.

As Poyet told the Echo last week, British players are as high on his radar as any overseas recruits.

He said: “We are looking everywhere. England is part of everywhere and I think the possibility of bringing in a player that is English or British and a foreigner, is exactly the same.

“We try to make sure that we bring in players that have already played in England first, if it is a foreigner.”

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:46 pm

I have never known a transfer window in years where there is no info coming from the club officialy or via leaks. Things really have become watertight.

This lad looks decent, but so did other signings.....

This lad on one wing, no one on the other could really give defenders a bit to think about if the deal comes off.

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:48 pm

wdb2721 wrote:I have never known a transfer window in years where there is no info coming from the club officialy or via leaks. Things really have become watertight.

This lad looks decent, but so did other signings.....

This lad on one wing, no one on the other could really give defenders a bit to think about if the deal comes off.

I think we will have a bit of trouble if no one is on the wing :lol:

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:53 pm

welshman90 wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:I have never known a transfer window in years where there is no info coming from the club officialy or via leaks. Things really have become watertight.

This lad looks decent, but so did other signings.....

This lad on one wing, no one on the other could really give defenders a bit to think about if the deal comes off.

I think we will have a bit of trouble if no one is on the wing :lol:

:lol:

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:39 pm

As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:55 pm

DITH80 wrote:As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!


I don't know what the legislation is, but I would think clubs in the PL would have those angles covered before even enquiring about players. Maximiliano Amondarain is from uruguay (outside the EU) and we signed him with no problem.

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:07 pm

CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!


I don't know what the legislation is, but I would think clubs in the PL would have those angles covered before even enquiring about players. Maximiliano Amondarain is from uruguay (outside the EU) and we signed him with no problem.

Have a read of the Premier League regulations. They are absolutely clear on this point.
I presume with Amondarain he was one of Malky's signings for the future and perhaps the legislation for players under a certain age are different.
It's also possible that Scocco being signed by City is simply paper talk, or an agent trying to manipulate a transfer for his client.

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:17 pm

As I mentioned in my post in the other thread

Dual nationality with Italy so no work permit issues as Italy is in the eu...

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ignac ... 51088.html
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Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:19 pm

He has played in Europe before he has dual citizenship with Italy

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:25 pm

DITH80 wrote:
CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!


I don't know what the legislation is, but I would think clubs in the PL would have those angles covered before even enquiring about players. Maximiliano Amondarain is from uruguay (outside the EU) and we signed him with no problem.

Have a read of the Premier League regulations. They are absolutely clear on this point.
I presume with Amondarain he was one of Malky's signings for the future and perhaps the legislation for players under a certain age are different.
It's also possible that Scocco being signed by City is simply paper talk, or an agent trying to manipulate a transfer for his client.


Yep. Entirely possible. But then there are players like Claudio Yacob at West Brom (Argentine) and Do Prado at Saints (Brazilian) who certainly haven't played in 75% of their nation's games in the past 2 years, so i'm guessing there must be loopholes...

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:33 pm

CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:
CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!


I don't know what the legislation is, but I would think clubs in the PL would have those angles covered before even enquiring about players. Maximiliano Amondarain is from uruguay (outside the EU) and we signed him with no problem.

Have a read of the Premier League regulations. They are absolutely clear on this point.
I presume with Amondarain he was one of Malky's signings for the future and perhaps the legislation for players under a certain age are different.
It's also possible that Scocco being signed by City is simply paper talk, or an agent trying to manipulate a transfer for his client.


Yep. Entirely possible. But then there are players like Claudio Yacob at West Brom (Argentine) and Do Prado at Saints (Brazilian) who certainly haven't played in 75% of their nation's games in the past 2 years, so i'm guessing there must be loopholes...

You're absolutely right when you say there are loopholes. In the August 2013 transfer window the only player who got a work permit without satisfying the 75% ruling was Willian now of Chelsea. The argument Chelsea used to get a work permit was that the Brazilian national team was so strong that he would be a regular starter for most other countries!

Re: Argie winger Nacho Scocco on his way?

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:37 pm

DITH80 wrote:
CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:
CM_Saunders wrote:
DITH80 wrote:As a player from a country outside the EU, he would be required to have played 75% of Argentina's games in the last two years to quality for a work permit. He's only played once!


I don't know what the legislation is, but I would think clubs in the PL would have those angles covered before even enquiring about players. Maximiliano Amondarain is from uruguay (outside the EU) and we signed him with no problem.

Have a read of the Premier League regulations. They are absolutely clear on this point.
I presume with Amondarain he was one of Malky's signings for the future and perhaps the legislation for players under a certain age are different.
It's also possible that Scocco being signed by City is simply paper talk, or an agent trying to manipulate a transfer for his client.


Yep. Entirely possible. But then there are players like Claudio Yacob at West Brom (Argentine) and Do Prado at Saints (Brazilian) who certainly haven't played in 75% of their nation's games in the past 2 years, so i'm guessing there must be loopholes...


You're absolutely right when you say there are loopholes. In the August 2013 transfer window the only player who got a work permit without satisfying the 75% ruling was Willian now of Chelsea. The argument Chelsea used to get a work permit was that the Brazilian national team was so strong that he would be a regular starter for most other countries!


Haha! Well let's hope OGS took note!