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Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:07 pm
Alot of people seem to blaming Malky for the state of the current team, yet Manchester United fans don't seem to blaming Alex Ferguson for a team completely designed by him. Moyes is getting so much abuse yet he has only really brought in one of his own players.
I'd say we are in a good position as fixtures favour us in the league and we have a better squad than Palace, Stoke, West Ham, Fulham and maybe West Brom. On our day we can beat anyone as others have said. Before we start claiming Malky has already secured our relegation maybe you will remember the start of the season when we beat City, Swansea and Fulham.
If Solksjaer keeps us up, it will all be down to him. If we get relegated it will all be down to Mackay.
Both of them tried and are trying to keep us up, so why so much hate.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:16 pm
I don’t really think it’s the same, Ferguson was just a better manager. They won the premiership with those players because Fergie got more from them. I don’t think its totally Moyes fault but I just don’t think he is good enough. He did a solid job at Everton but they have now progressed because he left.
The fact Moyes only brought in one player was down to him leaving it so late, the one player he did bring in he paid double for because he was so slow signing him and he has been a huge flop because he doesn’t fit into the way United play which was obvious from the start. Moyes still has enough quality to be higher in the league.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:54 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Alot of people seem to blaming Malky for the state of the current team, yet Manchester United fans don't seem to blaming Alex Ferguson for a team completely designed by him. Moyes is getting so much abuse yet he has only really brought in one of his own players.
I'd say we are in a good position as fixtures favour us in the league and we have a better squad than Palace, Stoke, West Ham, Fulham and maybe West Brom. On our day we can beat anyone as others have said. Before we start claiming Malky has already secured our relegation maybe you will remember the start of the season when we beat City, Swansea and Fulham.
If Solksjaer keeps us up, it will all be down to him. If we get relegated it will all be down to Mackay.
Both of them tried and are trying to keep us up, so why so much hate.
You say "we have a better squad than Palace,Stoke,West Ham,Fulham and possibly West Brom and we can beat anybody on our day".
I would say other than Palace the other mentioned teams have squads who are either equal to us in quality or even better. all these teams like ourselves can beat anybody on their day also.
When we play these teams make no mistake about it they're gonna be hard and difficult games they will want to make sure they beat us to keep us right where we are.
When we were under Malky I was often frustrated with the "park the bus" tactic and we all knew for the last 15 mins or so we would barely leave our own half of the pitch. Under Ole we are more attack minded and Noone has been a revelation and I believe that if we're to avoid the drop Ole's tactics are the way to go, Malky's tactics would possibly have kept us up but it would've depended on us staying out of the bottom 3 because once we'd dropped into the dungeon the "park the bus" tactic would've failed and we'd not have climbed back out of it.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:16 pm
Fergie had earned his stripes and proved he could get far more out of those players than Moyes is currently getting. Thats why people are questioning Moyes.
Add that to the fact he has blown 30m on Fellaini who doesnt look a United player in a million years.
Also, both Moyes and Malky with their negative football, its obviously going to frustrate fans, especially United fans who are used to seeing them attack, attack, attack.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:20 pm
We do have a better squad than most of our mini league. Players like Whittingham, Marshall, Medel, Campbell, Noone, Mutch, Kim, Caulker are all definitely good enough
Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:40 pm
CantonJack wrote:We do have a better squad than most of our mini league. Players like Whittingham, Marshall, Medel, Campbell, Noone, Mutch, Kim, Caulker are all definitely good enough
you could apply that to any team though. Fulham have Sidwell, Parket, Taarabet, Bent, Berbatov, Hangerland.
for example.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:40 pm
CantonJack wrote:We do have a better squad than most of our mini league. Players like Whittingham, Marshall, Medel, Campbell, Noone, Mutch, Kim, Caulker are all definitely good enough
you could apply that to any team though. Fulham have Sidwell, Parket, Taarabet, Bent, Berbatov, Hangerland.
for example.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:09 pm
You can't compare the greatest manager of all time to a bloke who's done four months in the Premier League as a manager.
We were all angry that Malky went. But he's gone now and we have a new manager. We have to move on and support Ole in the way we supported Malky.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:34 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:You can't compare the greatest manager of all time to a bloke who's done four months in the Premier League as a manager.
We were all angry that Malky went. But he's gone now and we have a new manager. We have to move on and support Ole in the way we supported Malky.
Ye, Malky only had four months to establish a Premier League team, nail on the head
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:05 pm
Malkys remit was to win promotion and he did, i didnt enjoy the football, but the means justified the end. thats the positive.
the negative is ,he signed 34 players for a lot of money on a squad aimimg for the prem with no fo thought..........
then having won promotion, squadered the war chest in our 1st,and possibly only year in prem............
i dont HATE Malky, while he was manager i wanted him to WIN every game, even if i died of boredom in the process.but am glad he went. all this he loves Cardiff, and nobody else could have done what he did stuff wrecks me........its not the Busby Babes we are left with, its a championship squad...........
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:06 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I don’t really think it’s the same, Ferguson was just a better manager. They won the premiership with those players because Fergie got more from them. I don’t think its totally Moyes fault but I just don’t think he is good enough. He did a solid job at Everton but they have now progressed because he left.
The fact Moyes only brought in one player was down to him leaving it so late, the one player he did bring in he paid double for because he was so slow signing him and he has been a huge flop because he doesn’t fit into the way United play which was obvious from the start. Moyes still has enough quality to be higher in the league.
Van Persie got them out of jail alot last season also, hardly done anything this time around, probably will Saturday week
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:09 pm
The Cobra wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don’t really think it’s the same, Ferguson was just a better manager. They won the premiership with those players because Fergie got more from them. I don’t think its totally Moyes fault but I just don’t think he is good enough. He did a solid job at Everton but they have now progressed because he left.
The fact Moyes only brought in one player was down to him leaving it so late, the one player he did bring in he paid double for because he was so slow signing him and he has been a huge flop because he doesn’t fit into the way United play which was obvious from the start. Moyes still has enough quality to be higher in the league.
Van Persie got them out of jail alot last season also, hardly done anything this time around, probably will Saturday week

wouldnt bother me as we play them on a tuesday
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:18 pm
'Squandered'.
Great Signings:
Caulker
Medel
Theophile
Leon Barnett
Campbell
Kadeem Harris
Craig Noone
Bellamy
Kim bo Kyung
Mutch
Andrew Taylor
Gunnarsson
Joe Ralls
Mason
Ben Turner
Don Cowie
His positive signings completely outweigh his bad ones.Alot of the people who rip into Malky seem to forget they are praising players to the hills in other threads when he signed them.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:22 pm
was ralls a signing?
what makes harris a good signing?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:24 pm
Ralls was playing at Aldershot, chose us over Fulham.
Harris cost 100 grand and we would easily get more than that for him now.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:36 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Ralls was playing at Aldershot, chose us over Fulham.
Harris cost 100 grand and we would easily get more than that for him now.
meh, not a bad signing certainly, but hasnt done anything for us yet so i reserve judgement.
no we need someone to do a list of all Malkys bad signings.
you could of course argue the point for Medel
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:37 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Ralls was playing at Aldershot, chose us over Fulham.
Harris cost 100 grand and we would easily get more than that for him now.
try reading your own list.............yes squandered........this is the EPL ffs.........
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:48 pm
soulofthesea wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Ralls was playing at Aldershot, chose us over Fulham.
Harris cost 100 grand and we would easily get more than that for him now.
try reading your own list.............yes squandered........this is the EPL ffs.........
Calm down dear. Don't cry into your bran flakes every morning because Malky made a few mistakes, life goes on. Life is roller coaster just got to ride it.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:51 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Ralls was playing at Aldershot, chose us over Fulham.
Harris cost 100 grand and we would easily get more than that for him now.
meh, not a bad signing certainly, but hasnt done anything for us yet so i reserve judgement.
no we need someone to do a list of all Malkys bad signings.
you could of course argue the point for Medel

isnt that list adequate?..i know he has left out the likes of Velijonka,Cornelious, Lappin, Brayford, .. but of those ON the list, how many would another EPL club want?..
Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:55 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:
We were all angry that Malky went. But he's gone now and we have a new manager.
Where on earth do you get that from?
I would say that a fair percentage of our fans are relieved that Malky has gone. I for one was fed up of his style of negative anti-football. Why oh why do people keep harping on about him? As you say, let's get behind Ole and not worry about Malky.
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