NEW BUSINESS MAN INTERERESTED IN BUYING!

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Southampton are a good club, with a decent fan base. So are we, of course! But I would not say that we are much more attractive, just about the same, really. Interesting news, though

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

And its these crazy attitudes that makes me come back for more. Better proposition than Southampton! ! Because ypu are capital of a little insignificant region of the uk.

A much better proposition than Southampton! don't be so ridiculous.

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

People need to realise we're entering admin sooner or later. Its not a case of if the bubble is going to burst but when its going to burst.

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

People need to realise we're entering admin sooner or later. Its not a case of if the bubble is going to burst but when its going to burst.

Dalman said we are in process of converting debt to equity and it will be done by end feb. How and why would Tan put us in admin?

People need to realise we're entering admin sooner or later. Its not a case of if the bubble is going to burst but when its going to burst.

Dalman said we are in process of converting debt to equity and it will be done by end feb. How and why would Tan put us in admin?

Why would tan write off all that money? Makes no sense.

He wont put you into admin while he owns you. However if relegated the company wont generate the money needed to keep it affloat which means we will need to cover it or try and get his money back.

I know what I would do.

People need to realise we're entering admin sooner or later. Its not a case of if the bubble is going to burst but when its going to burst.

Dalman said we are in process of converting debt to equity and it will be done by end feb. How and why would Tan put us in admin?

Why would tan write off all that money? Makes no sense.

He wont put you into admin while he owns you. However if relegated the company wont generate the money needed to keep it affloat which means we will need to cover it or try and get his money back.

I know what I would do.

He is in too deep to send us into admin. He would bankroll us to the prem again.

People need to realise we're entering admin sooner or later. Its not a case of if the bubble is going to burst but when its going to burst.

Dalman said we are in process of converting debt to equity and it will be done by end feb. How and why would Tan put us in admin?

Why would tan write off all that money? Makes no sense.

He wont put you into admin while he owns you. However if relegated the company wont generate the money needed to keep it affloat which means we will need to cover it or try and get his money back.

I know what I would do.

He is in too deep to send us into admin. He would bankroll us to the prem again.

Thats the thing, i dont think he is.

Medel, Caulker, Marshall, Theophile, Mutch, Campbell, Cornelius, Kim and Noone are all saleable assets. Im sure you would get £40m for that lot alone. Add in the £12m parachute payment from the Premier League and season ticket sales of £6m and hes instantly got around £60m back. He can set up long advertising deals for himself and then sell you on for maybe £15m-£20m and hes pretty much square.

He has posted a loss of £30m last year and will do similar again this year. If you go down he will need to cover about £30m loss again from his own pocket, and he would need to do that every year until promoted again.

For what? To keep losing more money?

I think hes realised you need far more than £60m and a colour change to win the premier league and thus become a superpower which i think he had in his mind.

Nobody is going to buy us FFS.

Either Tan stays and we keep adding debt or Tan goes, asset strips and we enter admin.

Why would a buyer purchase all that debt when they can wait for us to enter admin and buy us at the 11th hour for next to nothing?

Nobody is going to buy us FFS.

Either Tan stays and we keep adding debt or Tan goes, asset strips and we enter admin.

Why would a buyer purchase all that debt when they can wait for us to enter admin and buy us at the 11th hour for next to nothing?

If he asset strips you, which is the most feasible option then the debt will be repaid from that revenue. The club will essentially be debt free.

A debt free club of a decent size in the second tier of English football will always sell, its a great investment opportunity assuming you arent mental and think promotion will make the club billions a la Vinny.

If i were a rich investor then id see Carsiff as a decent option after Tan asset strips to pay himself off. Id happily buy the club for say £10m and then spend £30m on going up from what is a weak championship. The trick is to not spend when you get there therefore turning a £40m profit and creaming off a huge bonus and dividend as sole owner

We were sold for £1 so there is hope

Expected profits 0f £30million this season.

Expected profits 0f £30million this season.

Someone is going to be dissapointed then.

Just do the maths.

Don't know why you are bothering arguing with the wind up boy. He hasn't got a clue

Don't know why you are bothering arguing with the wind up boy. He hasn't got a clue

Don't think anybody is arguing in this thread pal.

If you disagree then speak up, if not then you aren't really adding anything to the thread are you.

Don't know why you are bothering arguing with the wind up boy. He hasn't got a clue

Don't think anybody is arguing in this thread pal.

If you disagree then speak up, if not then you aren't really adding anything to the thread are you.

problem is you are spouting figures with out having a clue if they are factual or not , they are based on what is said on here and what is said in papers, club figures show loss from previous year less than you stated or are they not correct so no one knows presice losses? if tan swaps debt to equity the debt is tans not clubs that is fact, anything else is speculation and guess work nothing else

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

its funny wez he never responds when he knows he cannot substanciate his figures, no one knows presise figures so anything quoted on here are guess work at best! and considering he is a swans fan he likes to think he is expert on our clubs finances!

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

its funny wez he never responds when he knows he cannot substanciate his figures, no one knows presise figures so anything quoted on here are guess work at best! and considering he is a swans fan he likes to think he is expert on our clubs finances!

Got him fucked just on the tv money Allen ,the guy hasn't got a clue our premier club money is more than the Jack's season ticket monies ,bigger club more in come than the Jack's lol

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

its funny wez he never responds when he knows he cannot substanciate his figures, no one knows presise figures so anything quoted on here are guess work at best! and considering he is a swans fan he likes to think he is expert on our clubs finances!

Got him fucked just on the tv money Allen ,the guy hasn't got a clue our premier club money is more than the Jack's season ticket monies ,bigger club more in come than the Jack's lol

They don't comprehend what bigger means? We are not bigger than them? despite everything about our club being bigger than theirs???

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.

Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?

Your figure is wild.

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

its funny wez he never responds when he knows he cannot substanciate his figures, no one knows presise figures so anything quoted on here are guess work at best! and considering he is a swans fan he likes to think he is expert on our clubs finances!

Of course I can substantiate the figure Al, surely you know me by know.

You are attempting to count things already counted for in the £30m loss posted already. You cant fount them twice as much as you would like to.

Sorry for not responding right away, its not like it was 4am or anything

New Chinese business man named Wang Jianlin will bid to buy Southampton football club. They didn't struggle to find a new buyer so why do many people argue that if Tan was to leave a new owner wouldn't be interested. IMO we are much more of an attractive club than Soton being the Capital. Opinions?

Fulham are based in a capital too arent they? Makes little difference.

Southampton have a cracking squad, little debt and sit in the top 10. They have a history of Premier League experience and are quite well known.

Cardiff have a poor squad, about £200m of debt, been in the top flight once in 50 years and sit bottom of the league.

So to buy Tans share of maybe £100m and take on the £200m debt you are looking at a similar price as you would expect to pay for a European club let alone relegation favourites.

200 million of debt are you having a laugh ?

You think its less?

yes much less we are not in the championship anymore this years income will top 100 million mark not 18 million like in the champion ship to say there will be a jump of 80 million in the debt is wrong as we would of lost 180 miliion in a one season the debt will be around the same level of 118 or maybe a bit less

not a chance. Income will be about £65m this year.

You were in £118m of debt prior to the season starting.

You have since spent circa £60m on players, the wage budget will be pushing £40-45m, you still have costs to be covered such as amortised transfer fees from the £12m spent last year on top of extras such as stadium expansion and running costs.

You are on course to post an extra debt of £55m this year. Transfer fees will be amortised but you will still owe the whole amount, just spread out.

So thats £173m debt by season end and thats just off the top of my head.

its 63 million just in tv money to finish bottom this year you moron with gates all premier seats income and increased sponsorship ie 6 million just from Malaysian government it will more likey around the 100 million mark but yor a jack and you know better

Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.

Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698

"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"

Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.

Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698

"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"

From the link:-

International accountant Keith Morgan, a director of Mazars as well as of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, said: “To be honest, when I saw the figures for sponsorship quoted in the Malaysian Parliament, they didn’t appear to tally with figures that have already been announced in connection with Cardiff City. A sum of £500,000 has been mentioned, which actually seems a bit low. Maybe the sums mentioned in Malaysia are to be spread over more than one season.

Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.

Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698

"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"

From the link:-

International accountant Keith Morgan, a director of Mazars as well as of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, said: “To be honest, when I saw the figures for sponsorship quoted in the Malaysian Parliament, they didn’t appear to tally with figures that have already been announced in connection with Cardiff City. A sum of £500,000 has been mentioned, which actually seems a bit low. Maybe the sums mentioned in Malaysia are to be spread over more than one season.

That's just speculation from a fan.

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/prem ... parliament

Malaysian taxpayer will stump up £3 million for the 2013/2014 Premier League season sponsorship of the Welsh club