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' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:38 pm

Thursday 16th Jan 2014.

Just spotted this on the Sky Sports transfer feed...

"Slovenia striker Etien Velikonja is Cardiff's forgotten man, having barely featured for the Welsh club since joining on a four-year deal from Maribor in summer 2012. Now he's been asked to go to FK Sarajevo - the Bosnian club recently acquired by Vincent Tan - on loan with a view to a permanent move."



He'll be leaving Cardiff to join Sarajevo on loan, the other club that Vincent Tan owns.

Tan became the owner of Bosnian club Sarajevo in December, not really something that was very highly publicised was it? The first player to make the move between his two clubs will be Velikonja, according to their director of sport.

Abdullah Ibrakovic has been quoted as telling Dnenvi Avaz: "Cardiff's manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer gave the green light for a loan, just like the player's agent.

"Now the ball is on the striker's side. If he does come, he will be a great replacement for our best striker Nikola Komazec who just left us."

With just four first team appearances for Cardiff since he arrived from Maribor back in 2012 I don't think that he'll be a player that'll be missed too much, many would've already forgotten about him!

OGS has enough talent ahead of him currently at the club, with other striking arrivals still possible this month as well.

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:49 pm

Makes sense to be honest. Its a clever way of Tan being able to dump our dead wood.

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:04 pm

agree best for all parties

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:14 pm

They're challenging for the title I think so it'd be a good signing for them and he'd probably tear the league apart. Should go there at least to put himself in the shop window

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:34 pm

jooshy wrote:agree best for all parties


I doubt he wants to live in Bosnia though.

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:14 pm

Things haven't really worked out for Etien Velikonja since he came to Cardiff, but he's close to getting a chance to get his career back on track as he's looking likely to become the next player to be moved on this month.

He'll be leaving Cardiff to join Sarajevo on loan, the other club that Vincent Tan owns.

Tan became the owner of Bosnian club Sarajevo in December, not really something that was very highly publicised was it? The first player to make the move between his two clubs will be Velikonja, according to their director of sport.

Abdullah Ibrakovic has been quoted as telling Dnenvi Avaz: "Cardiff's manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer gave the green light for a loan, just like the player's agent.

"Now the ball is on the striker's side. If he does come, he will be a great replacement for our best striker Nikola Komazec who just left us."

With just four first team appearances for Cardiff since he arrived from Maribor back in 2012 I don't think that he'll be a player that'll be missed too much, many would've already forgotten about him!

OGS has enough talent ahead of him currently at the club, with other striking arrivals still possible this month as well.

Read more: http://www.cardiff.vitalfootball.co.uk/ ... z2qbcwNyII

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:22 pm

Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Interesting indeed ;)

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:09 am

Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

Even though several times I showed you the link wherby Malky said they (Malky + Moody) had been after him since their Watfords days :lol:

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:25 am

Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

I believe it's because we want him off the wage bill and no one else wants him

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:38 am

Roy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

I believe it's because we want him off the wage bill and no one else wants him



This^^^


Tut tut Mr A.
Etien is un sellable. No game time, and at least 7th choice striker for a struggling premier side before gestade left.
Campbell, Peter, Maynard, corner, gestede, mason -then we have Healy.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:08 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

Even though several times I showed you the link wherby Malky said they (Malky + Moody) had been after him since their Watfords days :lol:


U have Chris that is true, but I have also been told many times from within our club that Malky did not want him at Cardiff and he was Tans signing.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:47 am

Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:12 am

cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.

Only a bad manager would come out and distance himself from an existing, out of form player.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:18 am

Is Tan just moving money around the continent?

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:43 am

Another dud signing from The Malky and Moody Show :shock: How much money of Tan's have they actually wasted during their time here. :?:

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:49 am

Karl wrote:
jooshy wrote:agree best for all parties


I doubt he wants to live in Bosnia though.


Slovenia, Bosnia? It was all Yugoslavia once! He should feel at home.

Re: VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO

Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:01 am

llangainbluebird wrote:
Karl wrote:
jooshy wrote:agree best for all parties


I doubt he wants to live in Bosnia though.


Slovenia, Bosnia? It was all Yugoslavia once! He should feel at home.


:angry4: do not write about things you don't know nothing about! :!:

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:10 am

Malky Mackay's programme notes for the pre season friendly v Newcastle Utd on the 11th August 2012 read;

"Etien Velikonja is a Slovenian international striker who I have followed for more than two years, & i didn't hesitate to sign when the chance came up in July. He is bright, sharp & quick & I'm sure he'll be an important part of our squad in the next nine months".

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:13 am

RICK+CCFC wrote:Malky Mackay's programme notes for the pre season friendly v Newcastle Utd on the 11th August 2012 read;

"Etien Velikonja is a Slovenian international striker who I have followed for more than two years, & i didn't hesitate to sign when the chance came up in July. He is bright, sharp & quick & I'm sure he'll be an important part of our squad in the next nine months".


Newcastle were truly appalling that day!

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:17 am

llangainbluebird wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:Malky Mackay's programme notes for the pre season friendly v Newcastle Utd on the 11th August 2012 read;

"Etien Velikonja is a Slovenian international striker who I have followed for more than two years, & i didn't hesitate to sign when the chance came up in July. He is bright, sharp & quick & I'm sure he'll be an important part of our squad in the next nine months".


Newcastle were truly appalling that day!


The meal I had in Giovanni's in town after the game was lush though. ;)

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm

Even though several times I showed you the link wherby Malky said they (Malky + Moody) had been after him since their Watfords days :lol:


U have Chris that is true, but I have also been told many times from within our club that Malky did not want him at Cardiff and he was Tans signing.


Either way it doesnt potray Malky in a very good light, he either wasted a good amount of money on him or it proves he blantantly lied to the fans and was just a media savvy manager who would say anything to fit.

The deal makes sense though, he isnt getting a look in and he is to light weight for this league. I doubt the Bosnian league is so physical.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:11 pm

cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:14 pm

I bet Cornelius and Brayford are Tans signings to

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

You may be right about Eti Annis, but Earnie was given a few run outs and was offside far too often. When Malky adopted a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation, that meant the end of Earnie, but Eti was only given the one real chance, if you want to call it that, which was for the first 45 minutes at Hull in our last game of last season!

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:30 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

You may be right about Eti Annis, but Earnie was given a few run outs and was offside far too often. When Malky adopted a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation, that meant the end of Earnie, but Eti was only given the one real chance, if you want to call it that, which was for the first 45 minutes at Hull in our last game of last season!


Malky did not want Earnie either, the Malaysians signed him as they knew he was a fans favourite.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.


You can only say what your told Annis but it does seem a bit convienent that Malky spoke about watching him at Watford. Its not like Tan would have just plucked his name from no where and just decided to sign him. We have a lot of knowledgable people on this form that had never heard of Etien so whats the chances Tan did? seems slim.

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:00 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

You may be right about Eti Annis, but Earnie was given a few run outs and was offside far too often. When Malky adopted a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation, that meant the end of Earnie, but Eti was only given the one real chance, if you want to call it that, which was for the first 45 minutes at Hull in our last game of last season!


Malky did not want Earnie either, the Malaysians signed him as they knew he was a fans favourite.

You said that Malky did not play Earnie (which I've highlighted), not that Malky didn't want him! :?

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:21 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

You may be right about Eti Annis, but Earnie was given a few run outs and was offside far too often. When Malky adopted a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation, that meant the end of Earnie, but Eti was only given the one real chance, if you want to call it that, which was for the first 45 minutes at Hull in our last game of last season!


Malky did not want Earnie either, the Malaysians signed him as they knew he was a fans favourite.

You said that Malky did not play Earnie (which I've highlighted), not that Malky didn't want him! :?



I wasnt having a go sorry, I meant Malky did not want Earnshaw :thumbup:

Re: ' VELIKONJA ASKED TO JOIN FK SARAJEVO '

Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interesting that Tan is taking him there.I always said Velikonja was one of Tans signings.

Hmm


Come on annis, malky has said on more than one occasion that Velikonja was HIS (or moodys) signing.


I will tell you what I know Malky wanted him at Watford and when he came to Cardiff Malky felt he needed a better class of player than did before, Tan went ahead and bought him, this came from one of Malky's Senior back room staff and at the time when they bought him, not months later.So Malky was not going to argue with Tan or go against him.
All ask yourselves, why did Malky virtually not play him, same with Robert Easrnshaw.
I can only tell you what I was told at the time and personally I believe its true.

You may be right about Eti Annis, but Earnie was given a few run outs and was offside far too often. When Malky adopted a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation, that meant the end of Earnie, but Eti was only given the one real chance, if you want to call it that, which was for the first 45 minutes at Hull in our last game of last season!


Malky did not want Earnie either, the Malaysians signed him as they knew he was a fans favourite.

You said that Malky did not play Earnie (which I've highlighted), not that Malky didn't want him! :?



I wasnt having a go sorry, I meant Malky did not want Earnshaw :thumbup:

I wasn't taking it that you were having a go, but you didn't originally say that Malky didn't want Earnie, just that he virtually wasn't playing him! :) :thumbup: