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Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:11 am

Every time i check this forum out I am amazed at the amount of hate for whitts. Ok i will admit he might not always run a marathon for us during games but he has undoubted class. Every time any of my mates watch us that wouldn't follow Cardiff or be too knowledgeable about our squad they always rave about whitts class and composure. His left foot is a wand. His loyalty is unquestionable.

He should be loved on here yet seems a lot of people have nothing but hate for him.

I always thought Graham Kavanagh would remain my fave ever bluebird but whitts class anf loyalty tops even him.

Stop the hating people and appreciate we have a very talented player.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:31 am

Because he walks around like he doesn't care. Misses easy chances and can't defend which leaves Taylor/John open to criticism. He's basically a set piece specialist, which he hasn't been very good at recently.

What's worse is the criticism of Cornelius, who hasn't even been given a proper chance, yet he is called crap all over this forum. What happened to supporting players?. He is 20 years old for god sake.

I know what whittingham has done for the club, like Gunnarsson, Taylor, Hudson etc, so I won't be booing any of them in our first ever year in the top flight. Some of his performances though have been dire, when we have exciting players like Kadeem Harris out on loan banging the goals in.

Maybe he is "out of position" but he is a professional football player.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:35 am

Cos our fans are stuck in a time warp and because he doesnt go steaming into tackles (Which incidently you cannot do in the PL these days) or mis hits the odd cross (nobody gets every single one on the button) its the end of the world :roll:

I think some expect him to be Lionel Messi and just pick the ball up and beat 3 or 4 players and score every time he gets the ball.

Hes not one of the better players in the premier league but hes more than good enough for a team in the bottom half of the table.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:38 am

think your confusing hate with honesty
and your mates no nothing about current levels of play by whittingham
its sad when players get older who have been good servants to our club in the past
but you have to move on
whitts is the past
oles new signings is the future :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:52 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Cos our fans are stuck in a time warp and because he doesnt go steaming into tackles (Which incidently you cannot do in the PL these days) or mis hits the odd cross (nobody gets every single one on the button) its the end of the world :roll:

I think some expect him to be Lionel Messi and just pick the ball up and beat 3 or 4 players and score every time he gets the ball.

Hes not one of the better players in the premier league but hes more than good enough for a team in the bottom half of the table.



people around me always complaining when he puts in a poor corner! Its like people expect him to be perfect.

He has had several fantastic games for us this season

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:15 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Cos our fans are stuck in a time warp and because he doesnt go steaming into tackles (Which incidently you cannot do in the PL these days) or mis hits the odd cross (nobody gets every single one on the button) its the end of the world :roll:

I think some expect him to be Lionel Messi and just pick the ball up and beat 3 or 4 players and score every time he gets the ball.

Hes not one of the better players in the premier league but hes more than good enough for a team in the bottom half of the table.



people around me always complaining when he puts in a poor corner! Its like people expect him to be perfect.

He has had several fantastic games for us this season


Same as around me Paul.

Any time Whitts doesnt get one quite right he has people screaming at him, regardless of how many good ones he hits.

Yet, Bellers put in 3 fantastic corners last week, then he hit a shit free kick in from the touchline but no-one said a dickybird.

Double standards :roll:

Saying that the one dickhead by me was screaming at how shit Noone was last week cos something he tried 2nd half didnt quite come off.

it was the same when Bothroyd was here people would rather concentrate on the negative rather than the positive.

Ronaldo could play for us and our fans would complain about him being a fanny in the tackle. :roll:

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:48 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Cos our fans are stuck in a time warp and because he doesnt go steaming into tackles (Which incidently you cannot do in the PL these days) or mis hits the odd cross (nobody gets every single one on the button) its the end of the world :roll:

I think some expect him to be Lionel Messi and just pick the ball up and beat 3 or 4 players and score every time he gets the ball.

Hes not one of the better players in the premier league but hes more than good enough for a team in the bottom half of the table.



people around me always complaining when he puts in a poor corner! Its like people expect him to be perfect.

He has had several fantastic games for us this season


Same as around me Paul.

Any time Whitts doesnt get one quite right he has people screaming at him, regardless of how many good ones he hits.

Yet, Bellers put in 3 fantastic corners last week, then he hit a shit free kick in from the touchline but no-one said a dickybird.

Double standards :roll:

Saying that the one dickhead by me was screaming at how shit Noone was last week cos something he tried 2nd half didnt quite come off.

it was the same when Bothroyd was here people would rather concentrate on the negative rather than the positive.

Ronaldo could play for us and our fans would complain about him being a fanny in the tackle. :roll:

the problem is whitts game is putting the ball where its needed,if he cant do that then he offers nothing else,bellamy seemed to motivate the team as wel as doing what whitts does,whittingham is a luxury we just cant afford .. :ayatollah:

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:50 am

So Whitts isnt allowed to misplace one pass, corner or free kick but Bellamy can? :lol:

2nd half Whitts kept our posession ticking over moving the ball from one side to the other bringing our flair players Bellamy and Noone into the game.

Especially when Eikrem come on him and Whitts were always available for each other and kept our attacks ticking over very nicely.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:54 am

He's our highest ranked player in fantasy football FFS which proves he's been our best player and contributed most as you get points for assists and goals. People saying he's not good enough make me laugh especially considering some of them also rate Cornelius.

Whitts has been one of our top 3 players this season IMO. The stats put him at number one but to me id say Marshall and Caulker have done well but obviously with all the goals conceded its harder to gauge these two. Without his contribution we'd easily be bottom. Just remember that.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:58 am

JB39. wrote:He's our highest ranked player in fantasy football FFS which proves he's been our best player and contributed most as you get points for assists and goals. People saying he's not good enough make me laugh especially considering some of them also rate Cornelius.

Whitts has been one of our top 3 players this season IMO. The stats put him at number one but to me id say Marshall and Caulker have done well but obviously with all the goals conceded its harder to gauge these two. Without his contribution we'd easily be bottom. Just remember that.


Their answer to that is "Goals from set pieces ie corners and free kicks shouldnt count as assists" even though when he does get them bang on the money, and takes the keeper out they are nigh on impossible to defend against and we have scored several goals this season from them.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:00 am

You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:03 am

Willy-Wonka wrote:You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.


Whitts has shown his ability and earned his stripes. Form is temporary, class is permanent as they say.

He has been arguably our best player for the last 3/4 seasons. People concentrate on him getting burnt out last season rather than the fact he carried us until Xmas. His peers seemed to think he done well last season, he got voted in the team of the year.

Cornelius on the other hand has shown nothing at all to justify what it cost to bring him to this football club, and has not even shown a glimpse of talent that could be worked on.

Age is just a number, if you have got talent it will shine through.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:14 am

Willy-Wonka wrote:You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.


Whittingham has contributed. The stats are not made up.
Cornelius would have contributed more than he currently has if he had put up the goal posts before each game.

Yet people defend Cornelius, a new signing who's rubbish, and slate Whittingham, a true Cardiff City legend.

It makes me sick to be honest.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:15 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote:You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.


Whitts has shown his ability and earned his stripes. Form is temporary, class is permanent as they say.

He has been arguably our best player for the last 3/4 seasons. People concentrate on him getting burnt out last season rather than the fact he carried us until Xmas. His peers seemed to think he done well last season, he got voted in the team of the year.

Cornelius on the other hand has shown nothing at all to justify what it cost to bring him to this football club, and has not even shown a glimpse of talent that could be worked on.

Age is just a number, if you have got talent it will shine through.


Whittingham has been shit. Are you blind?. Apart from a goal the other day, I haven't witnessed him have a good game. People moan about him because he wastes opportunity after opportunity.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:18 am

Nobody's hating on him he's been playing shit so needs to be dropped.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:25 am

Willy-Wonka wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote:You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.


Whitts has shown his ability and earned his stripes. Form is temporary, class is permanent as they say.

He has been arguably our best player for the last 3/4 seasons. People concentrate on him getting burnt out last season rather than the fact he carried us until Xmas. His peers seemed to think he done well last season, he got voted in the team of the year.

Cornelius on the other hand has shown nothing at all to justify what it cost to bring him to this football club, and has not even shown a glimpse of talent that could be worked on.

Age is just a number, if you have got talent it will shine through.


Whittingham has been shit. Are you blind?. Apart from a goal the other day, I haven't witnessed him have a good game. People moan about him because he wastes opportunity after opportunity.


As I said form is temporary class is permanent. He hasnt been great this last couple of months but then neither have the whole team and I put that down to Malkys negative set up and also playing Whiits out of position.

He played him in the centre v Man U and he was our best player.

Also, he has been in the Championship team of the year for 3 of the last 4 years yet our own fans cant even cut him some slack when he goes through a rough patch. :roll:

Hes not a striker by the way or do you expect him to finish every single chance he gets? Not even Ronaldo or Messi have a 100% conversion rate ffs.

Perhaps if the crowd were not on his back for any little mistake he makes then the two chances he passed up against Sunderland he would have taken on instead of trying to set the striker up.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:29 am

didnt see the arsenal game, but stan collymore (who i personally like as a pundit) was raving about him all the way through.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:32 am

JB39. wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote:You moan about people complaining about Whittingham when he has had some absolute stinkers. Yet Cornelius who is 20 years old is fair game?.


Whittingham has contributed. The stats are not made up.
Cornelius would have contributed more than he currently has if he had put up the goal posts before each game.

Yet people defend Cornelius, a new signing who's rubbish, and slate Whittingham, a true Cardiff City legend.

It makes me sick to be honest.

and what game time are you basing your assumption of cornelius on....the whole 2 hours he has played....

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:34 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:So Whitts isnt allowed to misplace one pass, corner or free kick but Bellamy can? :lol:

2nd half Whitts kept our posession ticking over moving the ball from one side to the other bringing our flair players Bellamy and Noone into the game.

Especially when Eikrem come on him and Whitts were always available for each other and kept our attacks ticking over very nicely.

of course he can get one wrong....but his set pieces have been piss poor recently...he ducks out of tackles and is half hearted in everything he is doing.....maybe fatigue is setting in

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:37 am

The Myth Dispelled Statistically.

All the fans slating Whittingham are an absolute disgrace. End of.

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Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:39 am

krabb wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:So Whitts isnt allowed to misplace one pass, corner or free kick but Bellamy can? :lol:

2nd half Whitts kept our posession ticking over moving the ball from one side to the other bringing our flair players Bellamy and Noone into the game.

Especially when Eikrem come on him and Whitts were always available for each other and kept our attacks ticking over very nicely.

of course he can get one wrong....but his set pieces have been piss poor recently...he ducks out of tackles and is half hearted in everything he is doing.....maybe fatigue is setting in



He is not a tackler, never has been. There are many top players who cant / wont tackle. We have other people in the team to do that.

As for his set pieces we scored off one up in Newcastle, and had another disallowed off one, but dont let the truth get in the way of a good witch hunt.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:40 am

krabb wrote:and what game time are you basing your assumption of cornelius on....the whole 2 hours he has played....


You praise Cornelius for contributing sod all and say he will come good yet slate a CCFC legend who's contributed at every level and is statistically our 2nd best player this season. You're an absolute lunatic pal. Without Whitts we'd be rock bottom and the stats prove that. He's our best midfielder/attacking player and only Caulker is rated more highly than him. Even fans favourite Medel hasn't got shit on Whittingham other than he's better at retaining the ball which is not hard considering he plays much much deeper than Whitts and makes less risky passes. Good grief.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:42 am

"hating on" - since when did we become the 51st state of america?

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:44 am

Bluebird86 wrote:Nobody's hating on him he's been playing shit so needs to be dropped.


Pardon? Lets just drop the entire squad then other than Caulker.

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Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:44 pm

Because we are all west side player haters? :P

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:04 pm

All sorts of people are called 'legends' at our club.

One day Peter Whittingham will get the credit he deserves. Loyal, rarely misses a game, scores goals, makes goals, just because he doesn't run around like a blue arsed fly, some people think he's doing nothing. He's also a top man, and great with fans, before and after games.

He's no more perfect than the rest of us, but Whitts is one of the best payers that I have seen down the City since I first saw them in 1968. When he was dropped last season, he accepted it. No toys out of the pram, no 'personal matters' like others we could mention. Just got on with it.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:05 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:All sorts of people are called 'legends' at our club.

One day Peter Whittingham will get the credit he deserves. Loyal, rarely misses a game, scores goals, makes goals, just because he doesn't run around like a blue arsed fly, some people think he's doing nothing. He's also a top man, and great with fans, before and after games.

He's no more perfect than the rest of us, but Whitts is one of the best payers that I have seen down the City since I first saw them in 1968. When he was dropped last season, he accepted it. No toys out of the pram, no 'personal matters' like others we could mention. Just got on with it.


Perfect sum up of the man. He is a Cardiff legend in my eyes too. No baggage with him, doesn't moan or groan. Just gets on with it.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:12 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:All sorts of people are called 'legends' at our club.

One day Peter Whittingham will get the credit he deserves. Loyal, rarely misses a game, scores goals, makes goals, just because he doesn't run around like a blue arsed fly, some people think he's doing nothing. He's also a top man, and great with fans, before and after games.

He's no more perfect than the rest of us, but Whitts is one of the best payers that I have seen down the City since I first saw them in 1968. When he was dropped last season, he accepted it. No toys out of the pram, no 'personal matters' like others we could mention. Just got on with it.


Perfect sum up of the man. He is a Cardiff legend in my eyes too. No baggage with him, doesn't moan or groan. Just gets on with it.


Agreed.

If I may also add no moaning or groaning about being played in the wrong position he has just got on with it like a model pro.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:21 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:All sorts of people are called 'legends' at our club.

One day Peter Whittingham will get the credit he deserves. Loyal, rarely misses a game, scores goals, makes goals, just because he doesn't run around like a blue arsed fly, some people think he's doing nothing. He's also a top man, and great with fans, before and after games.

He's no more perfect than the rest of us, but Whitts is one of the best payers that I have seen down the City since I first saw them in 1968. When he was dropped last season, he accepted it. No toys out of the pram, no 'personal matters' like others we could mention. Just got on with it.


Perfect sum up of the man. He is a Cardiff legend in my eyes too. No baggage with him, doesn't moan or groan. Just gets on with it.


Agreed.

If I may also add no moaning or groaning about being played in the wrong position he has just got on with it like a model pro.


There aren't enough players like him these days. Could also add he's loyal as they come. How many times has he signed new contracts with us when we were in the championship, when he could have played in the premier league.

Re: Why are people hating on whitts

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:22 pm

I dont hate him, just think that he can be class, but to laid back and goes missing on to many occasions.