Why we will go down under Solskjaer

I am behind Solskjaer 100% and hope that he can turn things round for us, but at the back of my mind I can't help but think he has made the wrong choice moving to Cardiff. I hope in a few months I will be proved wrong.

I think the main problem is, Solskjaer will try and play attractive expansive football, and we simply do not have the quality in our squad to be able to line up like this and at this level we will get punished. Say what you like about Malky's negative tactics, he made us difficult to break down. Yes the football was pretty ugly and uninspiring, but at least we would be competitive in matches and make things difficult for opposition players. I think now, we will try and attack in every game, very similar to Holloway's philosophy at Blackpool when they came up, and we all know what happened there.

I am not sure that buying young norwegians is going to make the immediate impact on our squad that we need right now. Daehli looks a good prospect as does Eikrem, but to expect these youngsters to make a mark straight away in the worlds best league is asking a lot. I like Solskjaer, respect his football career and feel one day he will be a top manager, but I think him coming in at January, to a team that he has inherited is going to be a step too far. If he joined us in the summer and had a chance to make his mark on the team then I think things would be different, but as things are at the moment, I can't see us staying up.

We are a team of hard-workers, who are going to win games and pick up points by working harder than our opposition. To come in and completely change the footballing philosophy at this stage of the season is VERY risky, and a move that I think will backfire. I hope I will be proved wrong!!

Ah the Malky made us difficult to break down myth.

We conceded the second highest amount of goals before Malky left and his last 2 games we were 3-0 down by the half hour mark.

We were getting punished anyway, and riding our luck (Everton Home, Norwich away) but at least 2nd half Saturday it looked like we could get a goal. We didnt look like scoring under Malky.

I am behind Solskjaer 100% and hope that he can turn things round for us, but at the back of my mind I can't help but think he has made the wrong choice moving to Cardiff. I hope in a few months I will be proved wrong.

I think the main problem is, Solskjaer will try and play attractive expansive football, and we simply do not have the quality in our squad to be able to line up like this and at this level we will get punished. Say what you like about Malky's negative tactics, he made us difficult to break down. Yes the football was pretty ugly and uninspiring, but at least we would be competitive in matches and make things difficult for opposition players. I think now, we will try and attack in every game, very similar to Holloway's philosophy at Blackpool when they came up, and we all know what happened there.

I am not sure that buying young norwegians is going to make the immediate impact on our squad that we need right now. Daehli looks a good prospect as does Eikrem, but to expect these youngsters to make a mark straight away in the worlds best league is asking a lot. I like Solskjaer, respect his football career and feel one day he will be a top manager, but I think him coming in at January, to a team that he has inherited is going to be a step too far. If he joined us in the summer and had a chance to make his mark on the team then I think things would be different, but as things are at the moment, I can't see us staying up.

We are a team of hard-workers, who are going to win games and pick up points by working harder than our opposition. To come in and completely change the footballing philosophy at this stage of the season is VERY risky, and a move that I think will backfire. I hope I will be proved wrong!!

A good post and very reflective on the merits of 'negative' football in the hardest, most competitive league in the world. I don't see us picking up many draws under Solksjaer, it's either we score first and get 3 points or the reverse, I don't see any middle-ground at all.

Good post, for the first time since we got promoted i think we will go down, the reason being i don't think ole has got enough time to turn this around, by that i mean the transfer market, it closes in just over two weeks, when i think about the money we spent and wasted in the summer on (in general) players who are not up to premiership level leaves me very angry.

Ah the Malky made us difficult to break down myth.

We conceded the second highest amount of goals before Malky left and his last 2 games we were 3-0 down by the half hour mark.

We were getting punished anyway, and riding our luck (Everton Home, Norwich away) but at least 2nd half Saturday it looked like we could get a goal. We didnt look like scoring under Malky.

I think if you ask Everton, Man Utd, Man City, Fulham, Swansea etc. they will agree we were difficult opponents. I just think playing an attacking style and bringing Hudson back in at the back is going to make us far more easy to break down and I think we will concede far more goals in the 2nd half of the season as a result.

If Ole's answer to fixing our goal drought problem is Mame Biram Diouf, we are fucked!!

Ah the Malky made us difficult to break down myth.

We conceded the second highest amount of goals before Malky left and his last 2 games we were 3-0 down by the half hour mark.

We were getting punished anyway, and riding our luck (Everton Home, Norwich away) but at least 2nd half Saturday it looked like we could get a goal. We didnt look like scoring under Malky.

hmmm, I don't believe Malky was totally at fault for the Southampton game, managing the club under that much scrutiny, being told to resign can't of been the best way to prepare for the game

I don't think we will, the rest of Jan is gonna be hard for us and will be lucky for a point, but Feb onwards the players will get to know the new signings and gel better to the new tactics then hopefully solskjaer will be in full flow. I'm predicting 13-15 place for us.

As it is a rolling contract, if we go down he will be gone. It is boom or bust.

As it is a rolling contract, if we go down he will be gone. It is boom or bust.

He must be on one hell of a wage packet to snub managing established teams like Villa, West Brom to come here in January where he is under intense pressure and sctrutiny!! Hope he can prove me wrong and become a legend!!

You should be manager coz u know more than ole all ready

Ah the Malky made us difficult to break down myth.

We conceded the second highest amount of goals before Malky left and his last 2 games we were 3-0 down by the half hour mark.

We were getting punished anyway, and riding our luck (Everton Home, Norwich away) but at least 2nd half Saturday it looked like we could get a goal. We didnt look like scoring under Malky.

I think if you ask Everton, Man Utd, Man City, Fulham, Swansea etc. they will agree we were difficult opponents. I just think playing an attacking style and bringing Hudson back in at the back is going to make us far more easy to break down and I think we will concede far more goals in the 2nd half of the season as a result.

If Ole's answer to fixing our goal drought problem is Mame Biram Diouf, we are fucked!!

Well seeing as Malkys answer was Cornelius and Odemwingie then I think we were pretty much fucked anyway!!!

For all the teams you mention we barely mustered a chance against Aston Villa, Norwich, Crystal Palace and Stoke.

This year Malkys team scored an average of 0.7 per game and conceded 1.6 so its not rocket science to work out we couldnt score goals under him and we werent as difficult to beat as is made out.

I think we are going down and if we do I will hold Malky responsible for the shit he bought in the summer.

You should be manager coz u know more than ole all ready

Not saying I know more than Solskjaer, but seeing as I've watched every minute of these players play for city, I do think I have a right to voice my opinion. Thanks for your input though. It was incredibly useful.

I just think many people want him to fail so they can say I told u he would.or say malky would have kept us up which I think he wouldn't

Ah the Malky made us difficult to break down myth.

We conceded the second highest amount of goals before Malky left and his last 2 games we were 3-0 down by the half hour mark.

We were getting punished anyway, and riding our luck (Everton Home, Norwich away) but at least 2nd half Saturday it looked like we could get a goal. We didnt look like scoring under Malky.

I think if you ask Everton, Man Utd, Man City, Fulham, Swansea etc. they will agree we were difficult opponents. I just think playing an attacking style and bringing Hudson back in at the back is going to make us far more easy to break down and I think we will concede far more goals in the 2nd half of the season as a result.

If Ole's answer to fixing our goal drought problem is Mame Biram Diouf, we are fucked!!

Well seeing as Malkys answer was Cornelius and Odemwingie then I think we were pretty much fucked anyway!!!

For all the teams you mention we barely mustered a chance against Aston Villa, Norwich, Crystal Palace and Stoke.

This year Malkys team scored an average of 0.7 per game and conceded 1.6 so its not rocket science to work out we couldnt score goals under him and we werent as difficult to beat as is made out.

I think we are going down and if we do I will hold Malky responsible for the shit he bought in the summer.

My concern is we will concede a lot more than 1.6 goals per game for the rest of the season. Agreed totally about Odemwingie, he looks uninterested at the best of times. As much as I think Cornelius was overpriced, and his header against West Ham looked like he was a toblerone head, I think it is still too early to judge him. I mean, you put any striker in European football in this City side this season and they'd struggle to look decent. I hope Ole will either get the best out him, or just cut his losses and get rid. Only time will tell I guess

Our fans are an optimistic bunch

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

I just think many people want him to fail so they can say I told u he would.or say malky would have kept us up which I think he wouldn't

Agreed, but I certainly don't want my club to fail just to say I told you so. I loved Mackay, have a lot of respect for him and will always be grateful for what he did at City, but he's not here anymore. It's time to get behind Ole now

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the fastest player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

I think Ole needs to buy players with premiere league experience.

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the fastest player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

I sometimes felt that scouting policy of looking into their 'personalities off the field' had too much bearing in decisions under Malky...Don't get me wrong, he assembled a cracking bunch of players but as Roy Keane stated the other day on the Keane vs Viera programme 'You don't win anything with choir boys'

Odemwingie is a nice bloke but not the footballer we need. Malky should of tried to tame a player with better skills who on the downside may have a more fiery temprament etc

In my opinion Solskjear is NOT the man for a relegation dog fight, that dressing room will become very fractious and heated. accusational finger pointing between players, accussing other players of not pulling their weight. Does Solskjear have the strength to impose law and order in a dressing room bumfight.
He'll need a good number 2 and that's just his bowls moving.

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the fastest player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

Fastest player at Cardiff? In what? Egg and spoon race?

He runs like hes got a wooden leg!!!

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the FASTEST player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

What? Rudy is quicker than him

I am behind Solskjaer 100% and hope that he can turn things round for us, but at the back of my mind I can't help but think he has made the wrong choice moving to Cardiff. I hope in a few months I will be proved wrong.

I think the main problem is, Solskjaer will try and play attractive expansive football, and we simply do not have the quality in our squad to be able to line up like this and at this level we will get punished. Say what you like about Malky's negative tactics, he made us difficult to break down. Yes the football was pretty ugly and uninspiring, but at least we would be competitive in matches and make things difficult for opposition players. I think now, we will try and attack in every game, very similar to Holloway's philosophy at Blackpool when they came up, and we all know what happened there.

I am not sure that buying young norwegians is going to make the immediate impact on our squad that we need right now. Daehli looks a good prospect as does Eikrem, but to expect these youngsters to make a mark straight away in the worlds best league is asking a lot. I like Solskjaer, respect his football career and feel one day he will be a top manager, but I think him coming in at January, to a team that he has inherited is going to be a step too far. If he joined us in the summer and had a chance to make his mark on the team then I think things would be different, but as things are at the moment, I can't see us staying up.

We are a team of hard-workers, who are going to win games and pick up points by working harder than our opposition. To come in and completely change the footballing philosophy at this stage of the season is VERY risky, and a move that I think will backfire. I hope I will be proved wrong!!

your correct i think in that its a huge task changing with half the season to go........but Malky was not keeping us up......its a long season,and Malkys extra effort football can not be sustained .. there was a fall off in results after january in both his championship seasons here, and had also been in his 2 seasons at Watford............add to this your point about how we picked points up against Man City, Utd etc by grit and determination .............this is the very very top in club football,do you really think 2nd time around teams were not going to be wiser.....we were a one trick pony,or bus........OGS job is made even harder by the fact that although we were a side built to defend,our actual defenders are not exactly the best..........we got points by every player going the extra mile.............im sorry but thats crap and totally unsustainable over a length of time, you cant play every game like your the under dogs in a 3rd round fa cup game..............

Agree with the op totally. Still if we do go down at least we will play exciting attacking football in the championship where we can cut it.

If it wasn't for some God like performances from Marshall then we would have conceded at least 6-8 more goals than we have.

Disagree entirely.

If we go down under Solskjaer its because Malky squandered a stupid amount of money on a donkey named Cornelius who scores less in DVP games than the invisible man, aka Etien Velikonja.

If we go down its because Malky spent money on players who arent good enough to contribute rather than on players who are good enough to contribute to our cause.

Brayford £2m
Cornelius £8m

Thats £10m there + wages and bonuses spent on players who are worthless to our aims this season of staying up and are not contributing.

Its a joke. If we go down now its because Malky and Moody messed up. If we stay up, its because Solskjaer did enough with the backing of Tan to quickly fix the cock ups that Malky and Moody made.

Cornieluis will come good IMO but needs time. Unfortunatley we dont have time on our hands. We would have been better suited signing Cornieluis next year if we would have stay up and sepnding the money on a known prem goascorer.

Nowhere near the fastest player we have mind, I think Campbell is the quickest.

Not seen much of him but I was up the Newcastle cup game where he played 60 Mins or whatever and was largely inaffective. Didnt look particularly slow but not quick by any means. In the videos of him playing for FC Copenhagen he looks pretty quick for a big man. Scored some crackers for them as well which I think that he just needs a bit of time.

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Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the fastest player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

Although we pissed the championship we still had a problem scoring goals, Campbell was bought in January and scored about six goals in his first five games, that proved to be enough to put us up but even after that (from about the middle of February) we struggled for goals and everybody knew our first and most vital priority in the summer was to bring in a striker who could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky paid £8 million and £45k a week wages for somebody he kept referring to as "someone for the future" we didn't or have not got that luxury, that is why he lost his job along with some other seriously over priced signings.

Sadly time is one thing we didnt have, as Malky found out, so to put all his striking eggs into Cornelius was ridiculous.

He could come good (I doubt it from what I ahve seen so far) but we needed someone to put the ball in the back of the net from August 2013 not August 2015 or 2016.

The boy is a raw talent. He is the fastest player at Cardiff and with his strength and presence, if he can develop the technical side of his game he has the makings of a real handful at this level. I just hope working with Ole will give him a much needed confidence boost and he starts to make an impact. Agreed though that Malky was to blame over this signing. 8m for a player who is not ready at this level yet is a very poor judgement.

Fastest player at Cardiff? In what? Egg and spoon race?

He runs like hes got a wooden leg!!!

hahahha i swear it came out in pre season and a couple of players came out and said cornelius was the fastest player. I hope I haven't made this up