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Velikonja ?

Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:19 pm

did he play tonight.........does he ever play anymore...........i was interested to see what OGS made of him.. does anyone know anything?

Re: Velikonja ?

Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:49 pm

soulofthesea wrote:did he play tonight.........does he ever play anymore...........i was interested to see what OGS made of him.. does anyone know anything?


Weren't even in the squad tonight :roll:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:00 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:did he play tonight.........does he ever play anymore...........i was interested to see what OGS made of him.. does anyone know anything?


Weren't even in the squad tonight :roll:


i did hope it was a Malky thing..and maybe the boy could play, but eh oh,

hope this stops at some point..get all excited only to never see the player do anything, maybe AC can prove everyone wrong

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:06 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:did he play tonight.........does he ever play anymore...........i was interested to see what OGS made of him.. does anyone know anything?


Weren't even in the squad tonight :roll:

Possibly because we can only use 2 or 3 over 21's (I think) in the DVP games and probably because OGS wanted to see Cornelius play up front and get some much needed game time under his belt!

I'm not sure whether the age rule counts for the squad as a whole, or just the amount of over age players you can have on the field during play!

I'm also not sure of the ages of all the squad who played tonight, just that Eti would be an over age player, the same as Joe Lewis who played in goal, probably another player who OGS wanted to see in action!

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/art ... 93010.aspx?

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:16 am

a real mystery this guy...............his record prior to joining us looked ok.........3 caps..i know its not a top league or known as an international power..........but we have had nothing for over 2 million quid..............i thought new manager clean slate..but maybe he really is pants

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:22 am

soulofthesea wrote:a real mystery this guy...............his record prior to joining us looked ok.........3 caps..i know its not a top league or known as an international power..........but we have had nothing for over 2 million quid..............i thought new manager clean slate..but maybe he really is pants

Or perhaps he wasn't given a chance and we'll find out one day!

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:27 am

Overthemoon wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:a real mystery this guy...............his record prior to joining us looked ok.........3 caps..i know its not a top league or known as an international power..........but we have had nothing for over 2 million quid..............i thought new manager clean slate..but maybe he really is pants

Or perhaps he wasn't given a chance and we'll find out one day!


was obvious there was an issue with Malky.........and THE chance up at Hull,to me was a piss take, i assumed this manager would at least take a good look.....i dont understand why he hasnt at the very least been put out on loan

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:30 am

soulofthesea wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:a real mystery this guy...............his record prior to joining us looked ok.........3 caps..i know its not a top league or known as an international power..........but we have had nothing for over 2 million quid..............i thought new manager clean slate..but maybe he really is pants

Or perhaps he wasn't given a chance and we'll find out one day!


was obvious there was an issue with Malky.........and THE chance up at Hull,to me was a piss take, i assumed this manager would at least take a good look.....i dont understand why he hasnt at the very least been put out on loan

I was at Hull that day and tbh Eti didn't have a good first half, although you have to take into account the lack of big game time he had experienced with us and we provided him with piss poor service, the same that Cornelius has received to date!

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:31 am

Play velonjka up front with Cornelius against Bolton - give them both some game time and save Campbell for the league. These were 2 highly rated foreign players, they don't become bad players overnight. Look at Southampton's young foreign stars - just shows what being treated right and a bit of faith can do to you.

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:39 am

At the present time I think velikonja is the least of OSG worries...........

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:43 am

C44rdiff wrote:Play velonjka up front with Cornelius against Bolton - give them both some game time and save Campbell for the league. These were 2 highly rated foreign players, they don't become bad players overnight. Look at Southampton's young foreign stars - just shows what being treated right and a bit of faith can do to you.


I'd rather him start Cornelius and Mason/Healy.

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:55 am

Why he has not been loaned out for game time and to see how he does is beyond me.

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:11 am

theclaw wrote:Why he has not been loaned out for game time and to see how he does is beyond me.


Probably as no body wants to pay a share of his 15,000 pounds a week wages.

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:16 pm

velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:33 pm

ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


yes i heard that too...............but also that Malky had tried to sign him for Watford { Malky said this }.

and Cardiff City hold the record for having spent the most in the first transfer window after being promoted............tight as f**k our vinnie lol

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:39 pm

ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:54 pm

dont see why they dont send him out on loan this month now malkys gone, even if we pay most/all the wages. at least hes in the shopping window for someone then or if he does come good we can get him back!

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:13 pm

Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:16 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

It was never denied whilst he was manager of Cardiff City, as he would have made the situation with VT worse than it was (if that was possible)!

He's unlikely to come out and admit or deny most things Cardiff City ATM as well, as he's fighting to get his compensation!

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:19 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM


this has been dealt with on here a few weeks back...........with Annis admitting he was wrong after Polo dug up the Malky quotes...................the papers love a villain........youll be posting links to Marshall scoring goals nxt..

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:19 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

It was never denied whilst he was manager of Cardiff City, as he would have made the situation with VT worse than it was (if that was possible)!

He's unlikely to come out and admit or deny most things Cardiff City ATM as well, as he's fighting to get his compensation!


:thumbup: whatever fans think of his tactics etc...he will always be a class act :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:21 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

It was never denied whilst he was manager of Cardiff City, as he would have made the situation with VT worse than it was (if that was possible)!

He's unlikely to come out and admit or deny most things Cardiff City ATM as well, as he's fighting to get his compensation!


:thumbup: whatever fans think of his tactics etc...he will always be a class act :ayatollah:

I agree, where are you from originally Tom?

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:29 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

It was never denied whilst he was manager of Cardiff City, as he would have made the situation with VT worse than it was (if that was possible)!

He's unlikely to come out and admit or deny most things Cardiff City ATM as well, as he's fighting to get his compensation!


:thumbup: whatever fans think of his tactics etc...he will always be a class act :ayatollah:

I agree, where are you from originally Tom?


Born in Gwent but moved away about 10 years ago....I have had the good fortune to spend 6 months a year in Ecuador these days! My wife is from there, my daughters are Wecradorians :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:33 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM

It was never denied whilst he was manager of Cardiff City, as he would have made the situation with VT worse than it was (if that was possible)!

He's unlikely to come out and admit or deny most things Cardiff City ATM as well, as he's fighting to get his compensation!


:thumbup: whatever fans think of his tactics etc...he will always be a class act :ayatollah:

I agree, where are you from originally Tom?


Born in Gwent but moved away about 10 years ago....I have had the good fortune to spend 6 months a year in Ecuador these days! My wife is from there, my daughters are Wecradorians :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Nice one, I was only wondering as I saw your Surname and wondered whether you were related to my mate Martin, who I'm playing squash with tonight?

He's originally a Llanrumney boy though, now living in Saundersfoot! :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:33 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Jules wrote:
ThomasC wrote:velikonja was bought by Vincent Tan after being touted by his agent directly to him.....One can consider that Vince won't get caught out again with this as he is extremely tight with money :lol:


why blame Tan for ANOTHER malky + scouting team f**k up?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... lky-mackay

Cardiff City signed Etien Velikonja without Malky Mackay's approval
• Club owner Vincent Tan went over manager's head
• Mackay did not want to sign the Slovenia striker

Don't believe all you read but it was never denied by MM


this has been dealt with on here a few weeks back...........with Annis admitting he was wrong after Polo dug up the Malky quotes...................the papers love a villain........youll be posting links to Marshall scoring goals nxt..


The truth is we will never know the full details of what goes on at CCFC as there is no transparancy with any dealings that go on there...Its a closed shop, fans should just be quiet etc. We can only specualte :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:11 pm

http://footballepl.com/newsdata?id=ADFCFC0B000001387BA8C4802ACB469C

http://asia.eurosport.com/football/championship/2011-2012/velikonja-signing-agreed_sto3345212/story.shtml

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-2027400

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/velikonja-convinced-by-city-drive-298612.aspx

MM didnt want ETI? so he lied then? or now? :evil:

fact is: he ruined a very talented player's career ... there were other Europian clubs who wanted him, but he trusted MM :!:


but we believe in karma ... what goes around, comes around ... :twisted:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:25 pm

but we believe in karma ... what goes around, comes around ... :twisted:[/quote]

you are really velikonja aint you? that's why malky didn't pick you because you come on here pretending to be a fan! :lol:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:33 pm

citybluechris wrote:but we believe in karma ... what goes around, comes around ... :twisted:


you are really velikonja aint you? that's why malky didn't pick you because you come on here pretending to be a fan! :lol:[/quote]

omg you're so funny ... no, pathetic really :lol: you must be MM himself :malky:

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:53 pm

SlovenianBluebird wrote:http://footballepl.com/newsdata?id=ADFCFC0B000001387BA8C4802ACB469C

http://asia.eurosport.com/football/championship/2011-2012/velikonja-signing-agreed_sto3345212/story.shtml

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-2027400

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/velikonja-convinced-by-city-drive-298612.aspx

MM didnt want ETI? so he lied then? or now? :evil:

fact is: he ruined a very talented player's career ... there were other Europian clubs who wanted him, but he trusted MM :!:


but we believe in karma ... what goes around, comes around ... :twisted:


I have read all the links...Lets get real though, there is no way Malky is going to admit that Etien was bought over his head....He didn't play suggesting that it is more likely to be a Tan purchase as MM would of given him a chance somewhere surely in a 46 game championship squad, fa cup, league cup...the start of the friction possibly with Tan not playing him.

The rumours of Tan's involvement were never extinguished by MM....the reports is all "WE thought it was the right time to bring him over."( MM )rather than the singular "I tried to sign him when at Watford." More likely scouted him as he didn't move to Watford did he.

Re: Velikonja ?

Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:42 pm

SlovenianBluebird wrote:
citybluechris wrote:but we believe in karma ... what goes around, comes around ... :twisted:


you are really velikonja aint you? that's why malky didn't pick you because you come on here pretending to be a fan! :lol:


omg you're so funny ... no, pathetic really :lol: you must be MM himself :malky:[/quote]

called a joke mate but nevermind :roll: