How much longer will Moyes get?

It's weird, I don't fear going to old Trafford at all now!dont get me wrong it's going to be hard but there so different now look like a mid table team.

Well mid table players such as Cleverly and one of their top players still is a 40 yr old... Nothing to fear

Average side which had miracles worked with SAF. United wouldn't sack Moyes a few months into his reign, they can afford going back a bit as their balance sheets/revenue looks fine now. Plus they're in the knockouts of the Champions League, in the semis of the League Cup etc. They aren't exactly performing badly just heavily reliant on RVP and Rooney, RVP hasn't been fully fit all season.

They'll probably fluke the champion's league and spend in the summer like Chelsea did.

I dont think he's going anywhere, 6 year contract and even a bad season won't see him gone.

I said at the start of the season, United will win f**k all this season as this season is when Moyes will get them playing how he wants. Next season they will be back to normal.

Another Liverpool in the making. Kings of England, years of dominance to mediocre. Nobody fears them anymore. Fergie has had a sub standard team for years. Now Moyes is paying the price.

IMO it shows a lot of flattery to United and SAF himself that these clubs have had to spend even more than they already have to get a bit of leavrage against United. City spent about 70-90m in the summer, Chelsea 50m, Liverpool a fair bit and Arsenal had to spend 40m to go ahead of an average United team. Just shows how good SAF is and what he could do

Wish we were playing them away this weekend, before rooney and rvp get fit. They are dogshit without them. If rooney had got the red card he deserved against us we would have beat them at home too.

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

He tried for years to get Everton above Man utd. Now he has finally achieved it

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Moyes.html

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

Bang on mate

Just goes to show that Fergie is/was the best manager in the world, hands down. He's worked miracles with that team, remember this is the team that walked the league last year. They won't sack him mid season, they will give him all of next season too then sack him if results don't improve.

Ole, lets go to Old Trafford and attack them from the off. Right up in there faces and show we ain't scared, we stand a great change of getting something.

Moyes' management is underrated, he done well with a limited budget and continued to make profit on players he bought on the cheap. Look at how much he bought Seamus Coleman for ffs, class signing by Moyes.

It's another man's squad, bar Fellaini(who has been a dud buy) it's Ferguson's squad, when are the players gonna start accepting responsibility?

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Moyes.html

So what? Everton are playing much better football and are in form. They're progressing. We'll see second half of the season how they do. That article is also comparing Moyes final season after 11 YEARS to Martinez's first 6 MONTHS.

So what they're basically saying is in 6 months Martinez has achieved what Moyes reached/achieved in 11 years. Yes Martinez inherited a decent side but he also lost Fellaini, a key player for them, and he rebuilt them. Theres no doubt Everton are better under Martinez and if you check their forums you'll see it to be the case.

Also, this comment destroys the entire article.

Multiple things wrong with this article. 1) Everton currently have 34 points, 4 points more than they had at the same stage last season. 2) Everton are currently 2 points off 1st place in the league. At the same stage last season, Everton were 12 points off 1st place. 3) Everton have 4 away wins so far this season - the same number they achieved in the WHOLE of last season. 4) You're comparing a home win over Man Utd with an away win over Man Utd, and a home draw with Arsenal with an away draw with Arsenal as like-for-like achievements when they clearly aren't. 5) Moyes never won away at 'Sky 4' club in 11 years at Everton. Martinez won away at Man Utd in his first attempt. 6) Everton have a better goal difference than they did at the same stage last season. 7) Everton have conceded less goals this season, than they had done under Moyes at the same stage last season. Everton are in a far better place under Martinez than they were under Moyes. Author seems to be a Moyes apologist.

So true. The number of apologists for these anti football managers is appalling. They're crap. People need to stop making excuses for them. That stuff works now and then depending on the team (i.e. Inter under Jose vs Barca) but that is the exception rather than the rule. They also perfected the counter attack and scored multiple times in that game to kill Barca off. If you want to progress you need a progressive manager, not a dinosaur like Allardyce, Pulis and the like.

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Moyes.html

So what? Everton are playing much better football and are in form. They're progressing. We'll see second half of the season how they do. That article is also comparing Moyes final season after 11 YEARS to Martinez's first 6 MONTHS.

So what they're basically saying is in 6 months Martinez has achieved what Moyes reached/achieved in 11 years. Yes Martinez inherited a decent side but he also lost Fellaini, a key player for them, and he rebuilt them. Theres no doubt Everton are better under Martinez and if you check their forums you'll see it to be the case.

Also, this comment destroys the entire article.

Multiple things wrong with this article. 1) Everton currently have 34 points, 4 points more than they had at the same stage last season. 2) Everton are currently 2 points off 1st place in the league. At the same stage last season, Everton were 12 points off 1st place. 3) Everton have 4 away wins so far this season - the same number they achieved in the WHOLE of last season. 4) You're comparing a home win over Man Utd with an away win over Man Utd, and a home draw with Arsenal with an away draw with Arsenal as like-for-like achievements when they clearly aren't. 5) Moyes never won away at 'Sky 4' club in 11 years at Everton. Martinez won away at Man Utd in his first attempt. 6) Everton have a better goal difference than they did at the same stage last season. 7) Everton have conceded less goals this season, than they had done under Moyes at the same stage last season. Everton are in a far better place under Martinez than they were under Moyes. Author seems to be a Moyes apologist.

So true. The number of apologists for these anti football managers is appalling. They're crap. People need to stop making excuses for them. That stuff works now and then depending on the team (i.e. Inter under Jose vs Barca) but that is the exception rather than the rule. They also perfected the counter attack and scored multiple times in that game to kill Barca off. If you want to progress you need a progressive manager, not a dinosaur like Allardyce, Pulis and the like.

Seemed to have missed Malky off the dinosaur list

Seemed to have missed Malky off the dinosaur list

Im not slating Malky anymore. Im just moving on. Solskjær is our manager now. We have a young, progressive manager who enjoys the passing game and actually understands football. Im happy!

If Moyes doesn't get top 4 he will have to be sacked... I guess if he wins CL and comes 5th then he would keep job though...

Man Utd could be interesting in CL. With Rooney and Van Perise back, possibly signing a couple of players in January, and an easy next round of CL... Will have a chance... But wouldn't rule them out losing to the Greeks in CL the way they are playing.

Feel sorry for Moyes, Fergie left him a old team, look at Evra,Vidic,Ferdinand,Carrick,Van Percie all in there 30s and of course Giggs 40. Plus Rooney,Valencia,Young, and Fletcher in there late 20s.
Fergie failed to recruit younger players over the last 3 years or so, something he never did before then.
I'm really starting to believe Fergie saw the writing on the wall.

Moyes is a good manager.

He has a lot to live up to.

I don't see why everyone is so surprised with their form this season. Their team last year was average but they had star quality in RVP.

They are missing a big player.. bigger than RVP himself.

Manu won't put pressure on him.. Fergie weren't delivering in his few seasons he started.

Moyes is in the Semi Final of the Carling Cup, got another game to go and if they have Rooney and RVP for that fixture they will go to the final for me.

Capital One Cup: Manchester United boss David Moyes slams referee after Sunderland defeat-

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... and-defeat?

It took SAF 4 years before he won anything

Moyes In

Loving the job he's doing he he

Moyes relishes second leg


Manchester United manager David Moyes is looking forward to the second leg of the Capital One Cup semi-final against Sunderland, and is confident that his side’s fortunes will soon change.

The Reds suffered a 2-1 defeat in the first leg at the Stadium of Light on Tuesday, with a Ryan Giggs own goal and a penalty from Fabio Borini giving the Black Cats the advantage. But the manager is already relishing the chance to make amends when Gus Poyet’s side visit Old Trafford on Wednesday 22 January.

“I’ve been here before and done it before,” said Moyes. “I just sense that it’s on the verge of turning, we’re about to get a bit better. You need a little bit of good fortune to go for you, and it looks as if we’re not getting enough of that at the moment. I can sense in the dressing room that there’s an urge to fight our current position, and we’re looking forward to the second leg now.

“If you’re going to be in this job you’ve got to win, and the last few games I’ve not won. It’s part of football management. It’s never going to be an easy ride. To be the manager of Manchester United is a big challenge, whether it’s on the back of wins or defeats.”

Despite the result, the United boss was full of praise for both his players, and the thousands of fans

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Featu ... C96090CD29

He needs to stop defending his players in public, saying how they are playing well when they clearly aren't. Show the who's boss, or they'll continue letting him down.

He needs his own players. For all their shit in the past, Rooney seems to be the only one fighting for him.

He will get another year or two at least. He is on a 6 year deal and I imagine a nice wage packet so I can't see United willing to fork out the money they'd owe him if they were to sack him.

It is an average United side, weak midfield with the exception of Carrick. Fergie's man management and RVP won them the title last year (City and Chelsea under-performing were big helps too)

Moyes was never qualified enough to take the United job, what had he won before? A lower league title with Preston about 12 years ago.

I do think they'll turn the league cup tie around but just finish outside of the top 4. Then an overhaul in the summer.

If Moyes history at Everton indicates anything, he's a team builder going about it slowly. Like Sir Alex before him I'd guess that it would take at least one and probably several seasons for him to create a solid team and start getting them to perform above average. It took him four years at Everton before they became a consistent top league side.

As others have commented too, the team he inherited is one lacking in a number of departments. They overachieved massively as a unit last season, and they had to get Scholes back in as well as a Van Persie firing on all cylinders to manage a last hurrah. The squad as such is too old, too many players with apparently frail physiques as well, and with quite a few of Sir Alex dud buys filling space. Sir Alex wasn't a genius in the transfer market, go through the list of the players he bought and you'll find many strange buys there and many that didn't succeed.

Still, an international quality creative midfielder should be enough to get them fighting for a top 4 position this season. They have dominated the greater majority of matches this season if BBC stats are to be trusted, also many of the ones they haven't won, but haven't managed to use the dominance to create goal scoring chances. A creative midfielder would work wonders there. A high quality winger and striker should also help them to be able to further turn dominance in play into more goal scoring chances. A left back is probably needed as well, if not for this season then at least as a preparation for the future.

The MU machinery is, basically, missing a few vital cogwheels to keep turning smoothly, and a bit of grease. Those handling the practicalities of the transfers at Old Trafford needs to take much of the blame for that, as I'm fairly certain that Moyes handed them a list of players he wanted well before the season started. The great number of transfer stories that didn't go through pre-season indicates that.

Moyes is a fraud. He's a negative manager and his teams play rubbish football. If it wasn't for Januzaj they would be struggling so much. He's the only spark in their team as of current.

Bring in a good footballing manager and you progress. Everton have seen that now with Martinez there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Moyes.html

What in the world are you going on about, JB? A fraud?

If Moyes history at Everton indicates anything, he's a team builder going about it slowly. Like Sir Alex before him I'd guess that it would take at least one and probably several seasons for him to create a solid team and start getting them to perform above average. It took him four years at Everton before they became a consistent top league side.

As others have commented too, the team he inherited is one lacking in a number of departments. They overachieved massively as a unit last season, and they had to get Scholes back in as well as a Van Persie firing on all cylinders to manage a last hurrah. The squad as such is too old, too many players with apparently frail physiques as well, and with quite a few of Sir Alex dud buys filling space. Sir Alex wasn't a genius in the transfer market, go through the list of the players he bought and you'll find many strange buys there and many that didn't succeed.

Still, an international quality creative midfielder should be enough to get them fighting for a top 4 position this season. They have dominated the greater majority of matches this season if BBC stats are to be trusted, also many of the ones they haven't won, but haven't managed to use the dominance to create goal scoring chances. A creative midfielder would work wonders there. A high quality winger and striker should also help them to be able to further turn dominance in play into more goal scoring chances. A left back is probably needed as well, if not for this season then at least as a preparation for the future.

The MU machinery is, basically, missing a few vital cogwheels to keep turning smoothly, and a bit of grease. Those handling the practicalities of the transfers at Old Trafford needs to take much of the blame for that, as I'm fairly certain that Moyes handed them a list of players he wanted well before the season started. The great number of transfer stories that didn't go through pre-season indicates that.

I second this. Well put.