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OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:23 pm

OGS:-

Mats was simply outstanding. The way he just keeps the ball on the ground, calms down and controls the flow of the game for the team.I am delighted! A few minutes into the game, I knew I made the right choise starting him.

He came to Molde for first team football, but he could've been at United now, playing for the first team. He's in par with Adnan Januzaj. They grew up together in the U18-team, and Mats was player of the year.


Well he says he could be playing first team with Man Utd now, so maybe he will be a starter for us? :ayatollah:

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:46 pm

He'll be fine in my opinion. Both him and Eikrem seem to have an air of arrogance about them and have a good sense of self belief which is what you need if you're going to perform or exceed expectations. Watch the videos of Eikrem and you'll see in some parts of it how his attitude is similar to that of Arjen Robben's where he does something good and he knows its good. These types of players continuously push themselves to be quality and prove they're the best to everyone. The same with Ronaldo. Of course, that comes with the consequence of having to keep them fairly grounded as well and keep them behaving so they don't mess up their career. Its players with this sort of drive you need because they can change games as they want the limelight and we are crying out for a game changer in our squad other than Noone who has to be fair to him, been exceptional at switching things up. Credit where its due.

I think the fact Ole is willing to bring these young stars in tipped for big things shows:

1) Just how respected he is as they clearly are willing to listen to him
2) How he is willing to take on all aspects of management and even tame the bad boys

I do feel that was one of the downfalls of Malky and his criteria for players became sort of a well documented thing and you just knew players like Taarabt and the like were never going to get a look in because of their ways. Of course, Taarabt is lazy as well but there are other players with bad attitude who are not for example such as Lallana, who himself has an air of arrogance about him.

Malky is rumoured to have fallen out with Brayford and he doesn't play when he should have man managed him and got the best out of him and used that drive and attitude to win games rather than just dropping him. That doesn't solve anything. I believe that they did fall out as Brayford can not simply go from one of England's most watched talents to a nobody. Sorry, I don't buy it.

And Bellamy its obvious he fell out with for whatever reason. Either that or Solskjaer brought Jesus over with him from Norway to suddenly and miraculously cure Bellamy of his injury problems, which I don't believe he had anything other than a slight knock. I believe myself, well its quite obvious, that Bellamy being the outspoken and driven person he is questioned Malky and then got cut loose. Thats how it all comes across to me.

Sometimes in man management you can't be cut throat and just dismiss players. You have to take them under your wing and nurture them, treat them as equals like school pupils. You'll always get the class clown and the idiot in the dressing room but you've got to be able to work with them and manage them in ways that you can get the best from them. Managers like Ferguson could whip out the hairdryer after many years and keep players believing because he got results with his methods and he demanded respect over many years. That allowed him to take liberties with the likes of Beckham and Stam and he knew that because the others believed in his methods he could be cut throat.

Malky isn't Ferguson and once he starts losing one of two of the dressing room and results don't go your way others are seriously going to start questioning the methods and ways of the manager.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:45 am

JB39. wrote:He'll be fine in my opinion. Both him and Eikrem seem to have an air of arrogance about them and have a good sense of self belief which is what you need if you're going to perform or exceed expectations. Watch the videos of Eikrem and you'll see in some parts of it how his attitude is similar to that of Arjen Robben's where he does something good and he knows its good. These types of players continuously push themselves to be quality and prove they're the best to everyone. The same with Ronaldo. Of course, that comes with the consequence of having to keep them fairly grounded as well and keep them behaving so they don't mess up their career. Its players with this sort of drive you need because they can change games as they want the limelight and we are crying out for a game changer in our squad other than Noone who has to be fair to him, been exceptional at switching things up. Credit where its due.

I think the fact Ole is willing to bring these young stars in tipped for big things shows:

1) Just how respected he is as they clearly are willing to listen to him
2) How he is willing to take on all aspects of management and even tame the bad boys

I do feel that was one of the downfalls of Malky and his criteria for players became sort of a well documented thing and you just knew players like Taarabt and the like were never going to get a look in because of their ways. Of course, Taarabt is lazy as well but there are other players with bad attitude who are not for example such as Lallana, who himself has an air of arrogance about him.

Malky is rumoured to have fallen out with Brayford and he doesn't play when he should have man managed him and got the best out of him and used that drive and attitude to win games rather than just dropping him. That doesn't solve anything. I believe that they did fall out as Brayford can not simply go from one of England's most watched talents to a nobody. Sorry, I don't buy it.

And Bellamy its obvious he fell out with for whatever reason. Either that or Solskjaer brought Jesus over with him from Norway to suddenly and miraculously cure Bellamy of his injury problems, which I don't believe he had anything other than a slight knock. I believe myself, well its quite obvious, that Bellamy being the outspoken and driven person he is questioned Malky and then got cut loose. Thats how it all comes across to me.

Sometimes in man management you can't be cut throat and just dismiss players. You have to take them under your wing and nurture them, treat them as equals like school pupils. You'll always get the class clown and the idiot in the dressing room but you've got to be able to work with them and manage them in ways that you can get the best from them. Managers like Ferguson could whip out the hairdryer after many years and keep players believing because he got results with his methods and he demanded respect over many years. That allowed him to take liberties with the likes of Beckham and Stam and he knew that because the others believed in his methods he could be cut throat.

Malky isn't Ferguson and once he starts losing one of two of the dressing room and results don't go your way others are seriously going to start questioning the methods and ways of the manager.



Great post Barnett! It's interesting what you say about the air of arrogance and keeping careers on track as I believe that this is what one of England's biggest problems is. Take Rooney or Wilshere - players who have that arrogant confidence about them but the English media fall over themselves to praise then regardless and this causes them to have narcissistic tendencies and maybe not fulfill their potential as players. I don't think this happens as frequently on the continent as it does in England.

But those players - the ones you described who just know when they do something that its brilliant are the ones who become the worlds greatest players. Ronaldo, Zidane, Henry, Cantona to name but a few.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:25 pm

robinsonisgod7 wrote:Great post Barnett! It's interesting what you say about the air of arrogance and keeping careers on track as I believe that this is what one of England's biggest problems is. Take Rooney or Wilshere - players who have that arrogant confidence about them but the English media fall over themselves to praise then regardless and this causes them to have narcissistic tendencies and maybe not fulfill their potential as players. I don't think this happens as frequently on the continent as it does in England.

But those players - the ones you described who just know when they do something that its brilliant are the ones who become the worlds greatest players. Ronaldo, Zidane, Henry, Cantona to name but a few.


100% correct. Every great has an air of arrogance about them. Its what drives them to be great and push their limits to continuously improve because where they're currently at isn't good enough. Look at Ronaldo, a name you mentioned, even when he comes 2nd to Messi in the Ballon D'or its not good enough for him. It eats away at him to become better and pushes him on. Ronaldo has had his attitude nurtured in a way which is channeled into his game positively and helps him reach such levels. Its one of the reasons Ferguson is the greatest manager of all time and its the main difference in a good manager and a great manager. Zidane another you mentioned, proved the attitude that lied beneath numerous times with showing off against opponents, winding them up and this was positive on the pitch because it often got opponents sent off or lost mentally. It gave his team the edge. It shone through in the WC when he retaliated by head butting the Italian player Materazzi. Yes he said bad words about Zidane and his family according to sources but many others would have just ignored it. Zidane didn't because within him he always had that attitude, that arrogance and that edge.

All the top players in the Premier League have it and arguably the best player in the Premier League currently, Suarez, has it in abundance. He just needs to learn to channel it through his football better and not rise to provocation. Henry had the same edge as did Drogba. I remember both of them taking quick free kicks, both complaining to the referees, both of them being theatric and both of them winding up opposition and getting under their skin. Its taking that attitude and channelling it in a way which can be positive to the team overall. A great manager will help a player be able to do that well.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:43 pm

Well with Solskjaer we have a manager who it seems has picked up the skill of management pretty quickly and has been under the guidance of SAF and if Eikrem and Dæhli have that swagger then hopefully it's a winning combination.

I hope Ronaldo wins the Ballon d'Or. He's the best player in the world by my reckoning.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:37 am

Mutch is a bit like that, don't you think ?

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:25 pm

No Picnic wrote:Mutch is a bit like that, don't you think ?


He is certainly developing it the more he plays. It's a shame he seems a bit injury prone.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:29 pm

Decent write up and video about Daehli on Walesonline today IMO:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ew-6507672?

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:39 pm

Overthemoon wrote:Decent write up and video about Daehli on Walesonline today IMO:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ew-6507672?


Cheers Overthemoon. Will take a look at that mate. :ayatollah: :thumbup:

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:46 pm

Overthemoon wrote:Decent write up and video about Daehli on Walesonline today IMO:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ew-6507672?


Good read. Ive only saw him playing once and it was Norway v Scotland. At the time i said to my mate who's that little blond kid??

He had the ball at one point and no one could get near him to get it off him and he just kept the ball, twisting and turning any attempted tacklers until he saw an opening and played a ball through for a chance.

I know who he is now coz weve signed him!!! Really excited about this boy!

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:59 pm

JB39. wrote:He'll be fine in my opinion. Both him and Eikrem seem to have an air of arrogance about them and have a good sense of self belief which is what you need if you're going to perform or exceed expectations. Watch the videos of Eikrem and you'll see in some parts of it how his attitude is similar to that of Arjen Robben's where he does something good and he knows its good. These types of players continuously push themselves to be quality and prove they're the best to everyone. The same with Ronaldo. Of course, that comes with the consequence of having to keep them fairly grounded as well and keep them behaving so they don't mess up their career. Its players with this sort of drive you need because they can change games as they want the limelight and we are crying out for a game changer in our squad other than Noone who has to be fair to him, been exceptional at switching things up. Credit where its due.

I think the fact Ole is willing to bring these young stars in tipped for big things shows:

1) Just how respected he is as they clearly are willing to listen to him
2) How he is willing to take on all aspects of management and even tame the bad boys

I do feel that was one of the downfalls of Malky and his criteria for players became sort of a well documented thing and you just knew players like Taarabt and the like were never going to get a look in because of their ways. Of course, Taarabt is lazy as well but there are other players with bad attitude who are not for example such as Lallana, who himself has an air of arrogance about him.

Malky is rumoured to have fallen out with Brayford and he doesn't play when he should have man managed him and got the best out of him and used that drive and attitude to win games rather than just dropping him. That doesn't solve anything. I believe that they did fall out as Brayford can not simply go from one of England's most watched talents to a nobody. Sorry, I don't buy it.

And Bellamy its obvious he fell out with for whatever reason. Either that or Solskjaer brought Jesus over with him from Norway to suddenly and miraculously cure Bellamy of his injury problems, which I don't believe he had anything other than a slight knock. I believe myself, well its quite obvious, that Bellamy being the outspoken and driven person he is questioned Malky and then got cut loose. Thats how it all comes across to me.

Sometimes in man management you can't be cut throat and just dismiss players. You have to take them under your wing and nurture them, treat them as equals like school pupils. You'll always get the class clown and the idiot in the dressing room but you've got to be able to work with them and manage them in ways that you can get the best from them. Managers like Ferguson could whip out the hairdryer after many years and keep players believing because he got results with his methods and he demanded respect over many years. That allowed him to take liberties with the likes of Beckham and Stam and he knew that because the others believed in his methods he could be cut throat.

Malky isn't Ferguson and once he starts losing one of two of the dressing room and results don't go your way others are seriously going to start questioning the methods and ways of the manager.


I am a massive fan of MM but my criticism of how he recruits players was always the quote of how 'we look into the personalities' etc. Maybe with more experience MM will just concentrate on what they can do on the pitch and give the extremely talented players a bit of slack.

It was documented that Cantona was given certain priviledges because of his outstanding talent and the players didn't begrudge the player or manager because on the pitch he was inspirational :ayatollah:

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:00 pm

JB39. wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Decent write up and video about Daehli on Walesonline today IMO:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ew-6507672?


Cheers Overthemoon. Will take a look at that mate. :ayatollah: :thumbup:

No probs James! :ayatollah:

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:02 pm

Cardiff Daft! wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Decent write up and video about Daehli on Walesonline today IMO:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ew-6507672?


Good read. Ive only saw him playing once and it was Norway v Scotland. At the time i said to my mate who's that little blond kid??

He had the ball at one point and no one could get near him to get it off him and he just kept the ball, twisting and turning any attempted tacklers until he saw an opening and played a ball through for a chance.

I know who he is now coz weve signed him!!! Really excited about this boy!

I agree, really looking forward to seeing what he can do for us! :ayatollah:

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:50 pm

What's his preferred position?

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:51 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:What's his preferred position?


Ole says he plays like David Silva, or that type

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:53 pm

Super Kev wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:What's his preferred position?


Ole says he plays like David Silva, or that type


Sure I seen some where he can be a winger? Don't know much and haven't really read too much about him.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:54 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:What's his preferred position?


Ole says he plays like David Silva, or that type


Sure I seen some where he can be a winger? Don't know much and haven't really read too much about him.


I think he can but his best position is the first i mentioned I think

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:10 pm

Cheers, hope he can be pushing for the first team straight away .

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:23 pm

Mats is probably not match-fit though, as the Norwegian teams has just started their pre-season.

Re: OGS on Mats Møller Dæhli

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:55 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Cheers, hope he can be pushing for the first team straight away .


Agreed