Tan's business masterstroke?

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

I'd say it's more down to Dalman tbh

I'd say it's more down to Dalman tbh

Agree, hes holding the club together at the moment.

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

i think the better the viewing figures..the more likely you are to be on.......following?

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

I might not have agreed with the way he has handled things, but I have never thought that Tan was an idiot - far from it in fact.

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

i think the better the viewing figures..the more likely you are to be on.......following?

Yes of course I am following. So you honestly think that because you have a few Norwegians taking an interest in you, as well as Having an ex Man Utd player as your manager, that your viewing figures are going to go through the roof and Sky/bt will feature you more often making you millions of pounds extra right? f**k me, you're more deluded than the OP!

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

I might not have agreed with the way he has handled things, but I have never thought that Tan was an idiot - far from it in fact.

Agree, people would have to be of high ignorance to think a self made Billionaire business man was an idiot.

He may only be a novice in learning about football.....but, he's pretty shit hot at making a buck or two.

I'd say it's more down to Dalman tbh

Agree, hes holding the club together at the moment.

Massively agree, very impressed at how he's handled everything

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

i think the better the viewing figures..the more likely you are to be on.......following?

Yes of course I am following. So you honestly think that because you have a few Norwegians taking an interest in you, as well as Having an ex Man Utd player as your manager, that your viewing figures are going to go through the roof and Sky/bt will feature you more often making you millions of pounds extra right? f**k me, you're more deluded than the OP!

If you don't think that a bigger following won't lead to bigger sponsorship deals etc then you're clearly a muppet

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

i think the better the viewing figures..the more likely you are to be on.......following?

Yes of course I am following. So you honestly think that because you have a few Norwegians taking an interest in you, as well as Having an ex Man Utd player as your manager, that your viewing figures are going to go through the roof and Sky/bt will feature you more often making you millions of pounds extra right? f**k me, you're more deluded than the OP!

Of course, thats why we are Barca and Real fans second team and have the whole of Denmark watching us.

Huw Tan-kins is a genius I tell thee

Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?

So you think you will get more money for higher viewing figures right? Seriously? And you call yourself BanterLad? Oh my!

i think the better the viewing figures..the more likely you are to be on.......following?

Yes of course I am following. So you honestly think that because you have a few Norwegians taking an interest in you, as well as Having an ex Man Utd player as your manager, that your viewing figures are going to go through the roof and Sky/bt will feature you more often making you millions of pounds extra right? f**k me, you're more deluded than the OP!

Of course, thats why we are Barca and Real fans second team and have the whole of Denmark watching us.

Huw Tan-kins is a genius I tell thee

Ole is a folk hero to man u, many of them are hoping he'll do well with us just so they can appoint him in a couple of years, no one cares about Laudrup....

The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying

The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying

If you're talking about playing record, surely ole's is better, slightly less goals but vastly better goal per game ratio, won more trophies including the champions league and one thing stands out above all else, loyalty, which I don't see in Laudrup

As a manager Ole is too young to compare but if he does become united manager within a few years surely he would have outdone Laudrup so I don't see what you're trying to prove here

The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying

If you're talking about playing record, surely ole's is better, slightly less goals but vastly better goal per game ratio, won more trophies including the champions league and one thing stands out above all else, loyalty, which I don't see in Laudrup

As a manager Ole is too young to compare but if he does become united manager within a few years surely he would have outdone Laudrup so I don't see what you're trying to prove here

Wow, wow wow and wow.

Please - dont just take my word for it -



Romário: "The best player I have ever played with and the 4th best in the history of the game"[18]

Raúl: "The best I have ever played with."[17]

Iniesta: "Who is the best player in history? Laudrup."[54]

Messi: "I fully understand why he is considered one of the best players in Barcelona's history and even the world."[55]

Cruyff: "One of the most difficult players I have worked with. When he gives 80–90% he is still by far the best, but I want 100%, and he rarely does that."[56]

Cruyff (After Real Madrid with Laudrup had won 5–0 over Cruyff's Barcelona): "When Michael plays like a dream, a magic illusion, determined to show his new team his extreme abilities, no one in the world comes anywhere near his level."[57]

Cruyff (Cruyff on Laudrup's lack of killer instinct during matches): "Had Michael been born in a poor ghetto in Brazil or Argentina with the ball being his only way out of poverty he would today be recognised as the biggest genius of the game ever. He had all the abilities to reach it but lacked this ghetto-instinct, which could have driven him there."[58]

Platini: "One of the biggest talents ever. The best in the world on the training pitch, but never used his talent to its full during matches.[57]

Platini: "Michael had everything except for one thing: he wasn't selfish enough."[16]

Guardiola: "The best player in the world, I can't believe he hasn't won the title as best player."[citation needed]

Beckenbauer: "Pelé was the best in the 60s, Cruyff in the 70s, Maradona in the 80s and Laudrup in the 90s."[57]

Roberto Galia: "I have played against Maradona, Platini and Baggio. But the player I saw do the most indescribable things was Michael Laudrup."[59]

Clemente: "To me, Michael Laudrup is the most genius player the world has ever seen. He will always be my numero uno. Always."[57]

Bakero: "No one has given the club [Barcelona] as much inspiration as Michael. We all look up to him. It is a privilege to have your day enriched by a genius."[57]

Koeman: "Michael was possibly the most skilful and elegant player I ever played with. Few could dribble like he could. He could sense when a game was ready to be seized and transformed by a moment of individual brilliance."[60]

Stoichkov: "One of the best European players I’ve ever seen. An elegant, old-fashioned playmaker, he did things few other footballers could do."[61]

Stoichkov: "From more than hundred goals that I scored I'm sure that over 50 were assisted by Michael. To play with him was extremely easy. We found each other by intuition on the field and found common football language. Look at Ivan Zamorano. Laudrup went there (Real) and Zamorano is a goalscorer. Sometimes I envy Ivan for the passes he receives. Passes on foot after you accelerated. Few people understand football like the Danish player. He can only be comprised with Maradona, Schuster or Roberto Baggio. They make things easy and find the right solutions. For them is simple, for the opponent – unthinkable. Phenomenal! His only problem is his character. He is emotional and terribly reserved. This affects him a lot, because he takes everything personally – no matter if someone tells him something or decision that he does not agree. His relations with Cruyff were delicate because he couldn't take the critics. I listen to him but I don't care that much. For Michael this was fatal. He couldn't take it anymore so he left without a word."[62]

Brian Laudrup: "My brother started as an attacker but became an elegant attacking midfielder, perhaps the most complete there has ever been. His vision, speed of thought and passing were on a different level; he always knew what was going to happen before anybody else did. If anyone had a 'football brain', it was him."[63]

Ferrer: "Few people made me enjoy the game as much as Michael. Maybe he didn’t get the media recognition he deserved, but he was so classy and a real thinker. A master of the blind pass and impossible through-balls and I will never forget his 'spoon' pass in a game against Osasuna. He lifted the ball right over the defence and Romario touched it in first time."[64]
Capello (After the 4–0 win of Milan against Barcelona in the 1994 CL final): "Laudrup was the guy I feared but Cruyff left him out, and that was his mistake."[65]

Figo: "I think maybe Laudrup was the best player I ever played against."[66]

Mourinho: "He was phenomenal in Barcelona. He was a fantastic player whom I would love to have on my team today."[67]

Stoichkov: "Laudrup was the greatest"[68]

Alan Tate: "He is still the best player in training at 48 years."[69]

Ian Rush: "He probably had the most individual skill I've seen. He was an incredible player."[70]

John Toshack: "To me he was the best player of his generation and he is a lot like Cruyff both as a player and a manager"[71]

Please - dont just take my word for it -



Romário: "The best player I have ever played with and the 4th best in the history of the game"[18]

Raúl: "The best I have ever played with."[17]

Iniesta: "Who is the best player in history? Laudrup."[54]

Messi: "I fully understand why he is considered one of the best players in Barcelona's history and even the world."[55]

Cruyff: "One of the most difficult players I have worked with. When he gives 80–90% he is still by far the best, but I want 100%, and he rarely does that."[56]

Cruyff (After Real Madrid with Laudrup had won 5–0 over Cruyff's Barcelona): "When Michael plays like a dream, a magic illusion, determined to show his new team his extreme abilities, no one in the world comes anywhere near his level."[57]

Cruyff (Cruyff on Laudrup's lack of killer instinct during matches): "Had Michael been born in a poor ghetto in Brazil or Argentina with the ball being his only way out of poverty he would today be recognised as the biggest genius of the game ever. He had all the abilities to reach it but lacked this ghetto-instinct, which could have driven him there."[58]

Platini: "One of the biggest talents ever. The best in the world on the training pitch, but never used his talent to its full during matches.[57]

Platini: "Michael had everything except for one thing: he wasn't selfish enough."[16]

Guardiola: "The best player in the world, I can't believe he hasn't won the title as best player."[citation needed]

Beckenbauer: "Pelé was the best in the 60s, Cruyff in the 70s, Maradona in the 80s and Laudrup in the 90s."[57]

Roberto Galia: "I have played against Maradona, Platini and Baggio. But the player I saw do the most indescribable things was Michael Laudrup."[59]

Clemente: "To me, Michael Laudrup is the most genius player the world has ever seen. He will always be my numero uno. Always."[57]

Bakero: "No one has given the club [Barcelona] as much inspiration as Michael. We all look up to him. It is a privilege to have your day enriched by a genius."[57]

Koeman: "Michael was possibly the most skilful and elegant player I ever played with. Few could dribble like he could. He could sense when a game was ready to be seized and transformed by a moment of individual brilliance."[60]

Stoichkov: "One of the best European players I’ve ever seen. An elegant, old-fashioned playmaker, he did things few other footballers could do."[61]

Stoichkov: "From more than hundred goals that I scored I'm sure that over 50 were assisted by Michael. To play with him was extremely easy. We found each other by intuition on the field and found common football language. Look at Ivan Zamorano. Laudrup went there (Real) and Zamorano is a goalscorer. Sometimes I envy Ivan for the passes he receives. Passes on foot after you accelerated. Few people understand football like the Danish player. He can only be comprised with Maradona, Schuster or Roberto Baggio. They make things easy and find the right solutions. For them is simple, for the opponent – unthinkable. Phenomenal! His only problem is his character. He is emotional and terribly reserved. This affects him a lot, because he takes everything personally – no matter if someone tells him something or decision that he does not agree. His relations with Cruyff were delicate because he couldn't take the critics. I listen to him but I don't care that much. For Michael this was fatal. He couldn't take it anymore so he left without a word."[62]

Brian Laudrup: "My brother started as an attacker but became an elegant attacking midfielder, perhaps the most complete there has ever been. His vision, speed of thought and passing were on a different level; he always knew what was going to happen before anybody else did. If anyone had a 'football brain', it was him."[63]

Ferrer: "Few people made me enjoy the game as much as Michael. Maybe he didn’t get the media recognition he deserved, but he was so classy and a real thinker. A master of the blind pass and impossible through-balls and I will never forget his 'spoon' pass in a game against Osasuna. He lifted the ball right over the defence and Romario touched it in first time."[64]
Capello (After the 4–0 win of Milan against Barcelona in the 1994 CL final): "Laudrup was the guy I feared but Cruyff left him out, and that was his mistake."[65]

Figo: "I think maybe Laudrup was the best player I ever played against."[66]

Mourinho: "He was phenomenal in Barcelona. He was a fantastic player whom I would love to have on my team today."[67]

Stoichkov: "Laudrup was the greatest"[68]

Alan Tate: "He is still the best player in training at 48 years."[69]

Ian Rush: "He probably had the most individual skill I've seen. He was an incredible player."[70]

John Toshack: "To me he was the best player of his generation and he is a lot like Cruyff both as a player and a manager"[71]

You have too much time on your hands for whatever it is you supposedly do

Laudrup was before my era as a player but you can win this round, even if I think Ole will make a better manager....

Thats all well and good all the greats saying that about Michael Laudrup, but growing up he wasn't even the best footballer in his house .

Thats all well and good all the greats saying that about Michael Laudrup, but growing up he wasn't even the best footballer in his house .

What do you mean "growing up"? Are we now judging players on how they were as kids?

Laurdup won best player in Danish history and is widely regarded as one of the great players of the modern era.

If you think Solskjaer comes close to that, then that opinion is literally insane. Its not even remotely competitive let alone close.

Castro, plaudits like that would be superb if he was PLAYING for you but, he is just managing you. And when I say just managing you he is just managing to keep you out of the bottom three isn't he.

Castro, plaudits like that would be superb if he was PLAYING for you but, he is just managing you. And when I say just managing you he is just managing to keep you out of the bottom three isn't he.

It makes no difference whether he achieved it playing for us or not. The argument was that Solskjaer was a better player so would get more fans....

Clearly that is an amazing statement to put it mildly.

As for his aims. He won the club its first major trophy last year while guiding us to a top 9 finish and this year lead us to the last 32 of European competition.

Last 32 ! ! Wow, well done. It seems to me that improving his " CV " has been Laudrup's priority really. A domestic cup win and getting through to the last 32 has been to the detriment of your league form.

Anyone arguing that OGS was a better player than ML is dumb.

However Castro, I think the OP made a hash of explaining the point he was trying to make.

Consider the publicity that we have had as a club over the last few weeks. Cardiff City has essentially gone viral. VT ha been billed as this pantomime villain and sacked the popular manager - the whole of the EPL took note and it made headline news in all media formats. As is undisputed the EPL is the most closely followed league in the world so whatever makes headline news in the EPL makes headline news in the world of football.

So now at this point after Malky got sacked we are trending everywhere. Worldwide news.

Let's bring this back around to what the poster was trying to say. The press at this point was very negative toward VT but a few quick facts will bring his next move into focus:

1)Manchester United are the most recognised if not the most supported [British] club in the world.
2) THE defining moment in the modern history of Man Utd is the Treble in '99.
3) OGS scored the winner in the CL final in very dramatic circumstances to make this defining moment happen.
4) OGS is recognised as a 'good guy' in football. (humble, intelligent, hardworking)

By bringing in OGS he has turned the whole situation on his head and got in someone who may not have been the greatest player but is certainly world famous and a legend in his own right.

OGS has certainly made all the right noises i.e "things aren't always as they seem from the outside"

So when the OP says viewing figures I don't think he means 'amount of matches that get shown on TV' but rather column inches, twitter trends etc etc and by boosting these numbers in the last few weeks suddenly (for reasons initially bad but now turning positive) Cardiff City is being watched by all intently. And THAT is very important if you want to start MAKING money not just pissing it away.

Hope I made sense!

Anyone arguing that OGS was a better player than ML is dumb.

However Castro, I think the OP made a hash of explaining the point he was trying to make.

Consider the publicity that we have had as a club over the last few weeks. Cardiff City has essentially gone viral. VT ha been billed as this pantomime villain and sacked the popular manager - the whole of the EPL took note and it made headline news in all media formats. As is undisputed the EPL is the most closely followed league in the world so whatever makes headline news in the EPL makes headline news in the world of football.

So now at this point after Malky got sacked we are trending everywhere. Worldwide news.

Let's bring this back around to what the poster was trying to say. The press at this point was very negative toward VT but a few quick facts will bring his next move into focus:

1)Manchester United are the most recognised if not the most supported [British] club in the world.
2) THE defining moment in the modern history of Man Utd is the Treble in '99.
3) OGS scored the winner in the CL final in very dramatic circumstances to make this defining moment happen.
4) OGS is recognised as a 'good guy' in football. (humble, intelligent, hardworking)

By bringing in OGS he has turned the whole situation on his head and got in someone who may not have been the greatest player but is certainly world famous and a legend in his own right.

OGS has certainly made all the right noises i.e "things aren't always as they seem from the outside"

So when the OP says viewing figures I don't think he means 'amount of matches that get shown on TV' but rather column inches, twitter trends etc etc and by boosting these numbers in the last few weeks suddenly (for reasons initially bad but now turning positive) Cardiff City is being watched by all intently. And THAT is very important if you want to start MAKING money not just pissing it away.

Hope I made sense!

Great post, im sure Castro will twist your words somehow in an effort to rubbish them though.....

Great post, im sure Castro will twist your words somehow in an effort to rubbish them though.....

You do realise he agreed with me right?

I have championed Solskjaer since he was initially linked with you. I have little time for bias, i thought you would have learned that by now.

I rated him as a player and now rate him as a manager. You have done very well. However......

Laudrup is a greater name than Solskjaer in both management and as a player by a distance barely measurable. Its like comparing Teddy Sheringham to fat Ronaldo. Laudrup is one of the greatest Barcelona and Real Madrid players of all time and is a genuine great.

Solskjaer was a super sub. A very good player make no mistake. However when comparing the two to suggest Solskjaer may be a greater draw than Michael Laurdup is insanity which of course is what the thread is about, regardless how it gets mutated.

Laudrup has to be a top 30 best players ever to have played the game. And top 30 is probably doing him a disservice.

Ole has done well so far as a boss, but again at this moment you have to go with laudrup as a better more set boss. Although I believe ole has the potential to be a big big manager in the UK, bigger than laudrup.

Laudrup retired from the game in 1998, Ole retired almost ten years later which makes him fresher in the minds of younger fans, younger fans tend to jump on bandwagons, so Ole is more popular these days ! Ole played for Man Utd the most marketable club in the world, Ole scored the most dramatic winner ever in a champions league final. Fans in the far east and globely will instantly follow our fortunes now Ole is manager . Maybe it is a master stroke by Tan/Dalman

I'd say it's more down to Dalman tbh

Id say more down to how much money hes putting in ogs wallet more like

The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying

If you're talking about playing record, surely ole's is better, slightly less goals but vastly better goal per game ratio, won more trophies including the champions league and one thing stands out above all else, loyalty, which I don't see in Laudrup

As a manager Ole is too young to compare but if he does become united manager within a few years surely he would have outdone Laudrup so I don't see what you're trying to prove here

Love this.

The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying

If you're talking about playing record, surely ole's is better, slightly less goals but vastly better goal per game ratio, won more trophies including the champions league and one thing stands out above all else, loyalty, which I don't see in Laudrup

As a manager Ole is too young to compare but if he does become united manager within a few years surely he would have outdone Laudrup so I don't see what you're trying to prove here

Obviously I can't remember everything he won, but wiki has this. I'm pretty sure he's won everything apart from a world cup.

Ole was a good premiership player but I don't think he would have been good enough to carry laudrup kitbag. Laundry was actual world class, just ruined it all managing the jacks.


Player[edit]
Juventus
Serie A (1): 1985–86
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1985
Barcelona
La Liga (4): 1990–91, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94
Copa del Rey (1): 1989–90
Supercopa de España (2): 1991, 1992
UEFA European Cup (1): 1991–92
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1992
Real Madrid
La Liga (1): 1994–95
Ajax
Eredivisie (1): 1997–98
KNVB Cup (1): 1997–98
Denmark
FIFA Confederations Cup (1)

Individual[edit]
Player
Danish Player of the Year (2): 1982, 1985
Don Balón Award (1): 1991–92
European Sports Media Team of the Year (1): 1994–95
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team (1): 1998
Best Foreign Player in Spanish Football in the last 25 years (1): 1974–1999
Denmarks Best Player Ever (1): 2006