" My Worries and Concerns "

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

Whitts given Man of the match on talksport !!!

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

whilst i agree with most of that annis you cant get a better grounding than what he had at old trafford looking after the reserve team under the wing of fergie.
i hope he does bring phelan with him because his experience and knowledge of where we need to be tactically and fitness wise is as good as any manager in the premier league.

I, for one, am actually excited by the future of Cardiff City!

OGS can only win what's put in front of him in Norway - he did that.
When Tan converts debt for equity we will be debt free - something no other owner has managed - far cry from the likes of Bolton and Blackburn at present.

A new manager who will actually use the SQUAD and not his favourites - the future is bright in my opinion!

Im really excited with his appointment. He played here for years and was coaching at united

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Is it that much of a concern to you what Tan wears? He wore a jumper, why does it have to mean something. Who cares what colour it is?

He rubs our noses in it by wearing red, he is a sarcastic clown if he wears blue. Damned if he does ..........

The guys a cock but we do need to keep away from childish arguments.

Last edited by Wayne S on Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

nice to see a bit of optimism..

Maybe he was wearing the same colour as the team ran out in?

Annis, I share your concerns and have reservations about how quickly he can adapt and recruit assuming he has been given the green light to bring players in.
The key for me is his back up team, if as some have suggested Phelan comes to assist this would give me more confidence.
It seems inevitable that OGS will be confirmed and if so we as fans have a huge responsibility to show him our great our support can be and get right behind him and the team.
Hopefully, we can beat West Ham, don't expect anything from Man City or Man Utd ( but you never know ), in which case we won't be cut adrift.
Malky whether we liked or disliked him & his playing style is gone and it's time to support the NEW manager

I, for one, am actually excited by the future of Cardiff City!

OGS can only win what's put in front of him in Norway - he did that.
When Tan converts debt for equity we will be debt free - something no other owner has managed - far cry from the likes of Bolton and Blackburn at present.

A new manager who will actually use the SQUAD and not his favourites - the future is bright in my opinion!

Totally agree with you buddy

So wearing blue makes you a clown??!!
The guy can't win can he. Just think he might have been building bridges

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

The Norwegian league is currently ranked 26 of the 53 National Association in the latest Uefa Coefficient table whilst the Irish League (Republic) is ranked 43 and the Northern Ireland league 47th. So the Norwegian league is better than your giving it credit for there.

We have a huge challenge ahead of us to stay in this League but, in my opinion, the West Ham game will not define our season far more likely results through February and March as there are games which will give us an opportunity to go on a run of good results.

Having said that we currently have a 21% win rate and to get to the standard 40 point is safety mark we will need to win 38% of our remaining games, The big question is will it need 40 points to be safe and are there 3 worse teams than us.

History would tell us that Sunderland are doomed so are there two worse teams than us.

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

Fully agree and it wasn't long ago a guy called Ståle Solbakken was the next best Norweigian manager to hit the English leagues and look what he done to Wolves!!!

When you compare the Norwegian league to the Irish league, you are comparing the standard of players. We have a premier league standard squad (or one better than a relegation fighting squad). OSG got the best out of a team that hadn't won the league for 100 years and made them back to back league champions. I believe he will get the best out of the players and we will survive

Maybe he was wearing the same colour as the team ran out in?

people read 'in-between the lines' waaaay to much with all the re-brand bollocks

It's a shame to hear so much negativity but you do seem to look for it these days in anything that Tan does or even now wears it seems.

Any managerial appointment is a gamble but Malky was not up to it and we are where we are because of him asmuch as you would like to blame Tan for it. Hoddle, your preferred choice would have been just as much a gamble having been 7 years out of front-line football. OGS is someone who has been at the top Premiership football club, trained as a coach at that very club and has succeeded in turning an average football club into a double title winning club. We could have ended up with Jones, Sven or Ince ffs....I for one am pleased.

The Norwegian league is currently ranked 26 of the 53 National Association in the latest Uefa Coefficient table whilst the Irish League (Republic) is ranked 43 and the Northern Ireland league 47th. So the Norwegian league is better than your giving it credit for there.

Also i thought the norweigan league had players like husseklepp etc. Irish league has no one popular do they?

When you compare the Norwegian league to the Irish league, you are comparing the standard of players. We have a premier league standard squad (or one better than a relegation fighting squad). OSG got the best out of a team that hadn't won the league for 100 years and made them back to back league champions. I believe he will get the best out of the players and we will survive

Same as saying that if a manager from the local pub league wins their league for the first time in a number of years then he is entilted to the be Citys manager because of only difference is the stardard of football!!!

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

Didnt Daya mention an issue with one of our shareholders changing his mind bout selling? Any truth in that??

When you compare the Norwegian league to the Irish league, you are comparing the standard of players. We have a premier league standard squad (or one better than a relegation fighting squad). OSG got the best out of a team that hadn't won the league for 100 years and made them back to back league champions. I believe he will get the best out of the players and we will survive

Same as saying that if a manager from the local pub league wins their league for the first time in a number of years then he is entilted to the be Citys manager because of only difference is the stardard of football!!!

I just meant in terms of player mentality and how he would get the best out of them

remind me what malky did before came to cardiff? new to management watford his 1st job what did he acheive there??? and 18mnths later he was ours, so ogs whilst managed in average league he still turned round there fortunes so who's to say he wont at city? who have far better players.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

remind me what malky did before came to cardiff? new to management watford his 1st job what did he acheive there??? and 18mnths later he was ours, so ogs whilst managed in average league he still turned round there fortunes so who's to say he wont at city? who have far better players.

A big gulf though Al between the championship and the premiership, he has less time to turn things around too. Big mistake in getting rid of Mackay.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

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Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.quote]

Laudrup and Pochettino ( Southampton manager and cant speak a word of English) seems to be doing alright for themselves at the moment

remind me what malky did before came to cardiff? new to management watford his 1st job what did he acheive there??? and 18mnths later he was ours, so ogs whilst managed in average league he still turned round there fortunes so who's to say he wont at city? who have far better players.

A big gulf though Al between the championship and the premiership, he has less time to turn things around too. Big mistake in getting rid of Mackay.

yes agree but point is malky had no experience either, and sorry think we may well have gone down with malky as he has one way of playing and thats defend,! we would not score enough goals to keep us up! just my opnion, we have the talent but it wasnt being used effectively maybe ogs will do that, time will tell.

Now come on Annis stop worrying everything will work its self out! you overly concern yourself and really need to let the MAJORITY of fans decide what is best for our Club their are several thousands fans who also want the best for our club but unfortunately they don't have the vehicle you have to saturate their views.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

Your are forgetting that quite a lot of that goes on overheads, wages, bonuses etc... no promoted team makes a healthy profit in their 1st year as they adapt, it's always the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

Don't worry Annis, we will have OLG in time for our best run Feb and March, and he will be up to speed by then. I think he will get as much help as he can and Tan will back him financially with players and his choice of number two and coaches and will get some old heads for experience. West Ham is a big game but they are poor away and on shit form and without Nolan plus all their defence, we owe them and will beat them .

It's going to be tight but I think we will do it