" I Honestly believe Malky Mackay "

On the Football pitch where it really matters/forget the politics side.

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

If Tan had not turned on Malky and bit by bit made it harder and harder for Malky to manage our club, Malky's team would of come through any bad patches, no were not a class team, but we were under Malky a few weeks ago a passionate/never say die team.

Remember not once were we in the bottom three under Malky, Malky had taken us up as Champions and was adapting to the Premier League. Malky Mackay has the 4th highest ever win rate % as a Manager of Cardiff City in our History.

Malky stood up to Tan and Tan disliked that, if we now get a puppet, I really fear we will go down this season, in fact I believe we will now, unless Tan is willing to get a proven Premier League manager who can handle Tan?

Malky might of made some mistakes and he def did in my opinion with the signing of Cornelius, Gestede could do better than him and that says something, but dont all managers make mistakes?

I said from day one Malky should have been given the whole of this season.

So now, not only do we have fans like myself who despise Tan for the Rebrand, but fans now who now are fed up with Tans circus over the last few months(yet before supported Tan), yes there are fans on here who believe Tan can do no wrong, thats their opinions, but personally I can only see our club going one way and thats down under Tan.

The Worlds media/TV Pundits/Football Managers are all shocked/gobsmacked at the goings on at our club and no one on here can not deny this.

Even tonight on Match of the Day they called us the Xmas Pantomime.

I honestly dont know what the solution is? For me the ideal solution would be for Tan to find a buyer ASAP.

Any ideas?

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like you i would have liked malky to have at least a year

if it didn't work then change but football is such a whore to these investors from the far east it seems

wish we could get rid of these football agents too that would be a start

we;re K R DIFF we'll always be blue

It was weird not seeing that man screaming from the touch line today. When we were pegged back Malky would have been rallying the players. Kers hardly did anything.

I do now believe we'll be going down with Sunderland and Fulham, we'll be 19th come February

Our football under MM was terrible, we had no flair or attacking prowess. He wasted millions on players not up to this level, leaving us with a threadbare squad lacking in pace throughout.
How this was going to keep us up is beyond me.

Think malky should never been sacked. We were doing ok b4 he got in a strop at his dressing room ban. he'd be on the pitch hugging malky b4 this his trouble making brought ridiculous pressure at a time when we needed to stay focused and playing with commitment. We were playing top teams and taking them to the wire. unfair loss to spurs. unlucky against Newcastle again. manu while shit had started but not blown up another good performance. man city and of course Swansea. plus as OP mentions. We were never in the bottom 3. malky should of been given money for the position we needed. out wide. upfront. I think he'd of kept us up. anything could happen now. It's a shame. We lost a great manager. best of my lifetime. oddly I took my 5 yr old boy 2 the saints game. His 1st match and malkys last.

I liked Rudy, but Cornelius is not worse than him. No way. Besides, has. Cornelius actually started a league game yet? If not, then it isn't completely fair to be absolutely tearing into him like so many are doing.

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Annis, there are (unconfirmed) whispers around that the father of the 'painter' guy that 'took' Moody's job is/was keen to invest in Cardiff City FC and that Tan was/is keen to get him on board...

Not sure whether that is true (others may shine more light on the subject) and/or if correct whether it would have been a simple investment or a takeover

As I said, these are unconfirmed reports, but would makes sense as to why the 'painter' (sorry, I forget the name) was given such a lofty position, i.e. to keep daddy sweet!

On the Football pitch where it really matters/forget the politics side.

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

If Tan had not turned on Malky and bit by bit made it harder and harder for Malky to manage our club, Malky's team would of come through any bad patches, no were not a class team, but we were under Malky a few weeks ago a passionate/never say die team.

Remember not once were we in the bottom three under Malky, Malky had taken us up as Champions and was adapting to the Premier League. Malky Mackay has the 4th highest ever win rate % as a Manager of Cardiff City in our History.

Malky stood up to Tan and Tan disliked that, if we now get a puppet, I really fear we will go down this season, in fact I believe we will now, unless Tan is willing to get a proven Premier League manager who can handle Tan?

Malky might of made some mistakes and he def did in my opinion with the signing of Cornelius, Gestede could do better than him and that says something, but dont all managers make mistakes?

I said from day one Malky should have been given the whole of this season.

So now, not only do we have fans like myself who despise Tan for the Rebrand, but fans now who now are fed up with Tans circus over the last few months(yet before supported Tan), yes there are fans on here who believe Tan can do no wrong, thats their opinions, but personally I can only see our club going one way and thats down under Tan.

The Worlds media/TV Pundits/Football Managers are all shocked/gobsmacked at the goings on at our club and no one on here can not deny this.

Even tonight on Match of the Day they called us the Xmas Pantomime.

I honestly dont know what the solution is? For me the ideal solution would be for Tan to find a buyer ASAP.

Any ideas?

annis u really need to let malky go its starting to get cringe now

The foundations Malky set are brilliant. As long as the new manager doesn't carry on with the Football he played.

Annis, being a home team and not testing the keeper on Boxing Day just got me to the point where I weren't fully concerned with him getting sacked. Gutted for him and the club as he was a breath of fresh air since he walked in but he wouldn't keep us up, if he was manager of the game yesterday we wouldn't have got a single point.

He had the time to change the team but he kept making wrong selections.

Carp diem believes his own shit!!!!!!! It's unbearable ! Malky wasn't perfect , didn't agree with a few things he done but we were 4 points above relagation zone when he left! What more did you expect

Our football under MM was terrible, we had no flair or attacking prowess. He wasted millions on players not up to this level, leaving us with a threadbare squad lacking in pace throughout.
How this was going to keep us up is beyond me.

Carpe Diem? More like glass half empty

Seriously though, this sacking was a grave mistake and our misery is going to get a lot worse.

We went back to the way Malky played it in the second half yesterday and it cost us 2 points total negative shite with stupid substitutions.

i actually think after yesterday we will go down, it was crucial we hung on and got to 20 points, pivitol in my mind.
To be honest as much as it pains me to think we are going down, it will cause tan no end of pain and maybe he will learn from it....

What a load of total crap!!! If we had held on to the end at 2-1 then tan would of been vindicated in 90 minutes, not for the way he went about sacking malky but because the end result is the correct 1!

From what I could see last night we looked like a side that where playing attacking,quick passing and attractive football for a lot of the match! Then silly subs and going back into our own half to hold on cost us the game (played the last 20 minutes the malky way shit)

I'm sick of hearing about him! He's our old manager now get a grip and move on,

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

I believe malky couldnt keep his socks up let alone us, the 1st half yesterday proved we are better off without him attacking but for some strange reason we camped in after our 2nd goal and again i believe that was down to malkys defensive mentality which is in the players minds now we have seen this happen before many times after taking leads in games ( the other team always comes back in most cases) and bad subs which shocked most of us tbh

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

I believe malky couldnt keep his socks up let alone us, the 1st half yesterday proved we are better off without him attacking but for some strange reason we camped in after our 2nd goal and again i believe that was down to malkys defensive mentality which is in the players minds now we have seen this happen before many times after taking leads in games ( the other team always comes back in most cases) and bad subs which shocked most of us tbh

Bang on mate!!

On the Football pitch where it really matters/forget the politics side.

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

If Tan had not turned on Malky and bit by bit made it harder and harder for Malky to manage our club, Malky's team would of come through any bad patches, no were not a class team, but we were under Malky a few weeks ago a passionate/never say die team.

Remember not once were we in the bottom three under Malky, Malky had taken us up as Champions and was adapting to the Premier League. Malky Mackay has the 4th highest ever win rate % as a Manager of Cardiff City in our History.

Malky stood up to Tan and Tan disliked that, if we now get a puppet, I really fear we will go down this season, in fact I believe we will now, unless Tan is willing to get a proven Premier League manager who can handle Tan?

Malky might of made some mistakes and he def did in my opinion with the signing of Cornelius, Gestede could do better than him and that says something, but dont all managers make mistakes?

I said from day one Malky should have been given the whole of this season.

So now, not only do we have fans like myself who despise Tan for the Rebrand, but fans now who now are fed up with Tans circus over the last few months(yet before supported Tan), yes there are fans on here who believe Tan can do no wrong, thats their opinions, but personally I can only see our club going one way and thats down under Tan.

The Worlds media/TV Pundits/Football Managers are all shocked/gobsmacked at the goings on at our club and no one on here can not deny this.

Even tonight on Match of the Day they called us the Xmas Pantomime.

I honestly dont know what the solution is? For me the ideal solution would be for Tan to find a buyer ASAP.

Any ideas?

It was ironic that without Malky in charge we gave our most passionate attacking performance for 75 minutes of that game yesterday hmmmm, as you say.

I agree that had we had an harmonious boardroom and Malky would have been left to do his job then he would have kept us up, but at the cost of playing the most boaring, uninspiring football since Lenny Lawrence.

I don't agree that there is any Cardiff fans out there that believes VT can do no wrong. All of us are fully aware of his shortcomings, yet we are willing to look at the bigger picture, which is, he has bank rolled the club to over £100 million, backed the manager to the hilt in the transfer market, who can see the likes of Hull in 10th position and rightly feels let down by the brand of football played under Malky and those dealings in the transfer market.

Yesterday's performance finally showed that the players we have can play attacking football and compete just as well as Malkys team playing anti- football, so I'm optimistic that with the right manager and 3 new additions of that managers choice, we have enough to stay up. VT, is not a man who accepts failure and will provide everything to stay in this league.

Lastly, I watched the game on TV yesterday, rare for me, as I'm usually there. It gave me the opportunity to hear the crowd from a viewers perspective. I was embarrassed by how much support our supporters gave to Malky, it was like a love sick teenager. Many were more interested in singing about a manager who has now left, only been here 2 years, instead of giving full backing to the players on the pitch. The same supporters who couldn't muster up a peep when the colours and badge were binned. It really is cringeworthy. Then you have teenagers, who know f**k all about following Cardiff holding up banners and wearing shirts telling a man who has invested £100 million to f**k off and they are treated like heroes

It's no wonder, Cardiff find it hard to find investment as we have the biggest bunch of fickle, knee jerk supporters, who are so quick to adopt mob rule for the most basic and banal reasons.

i dont understand..he deserved the season...........its a higher level, much the same people that say this would not argue that many of last years CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING SQUAD are not good enough.........yet stick to the deserves a year line for the manager....i enjoyed the football yesterday,not the last 15/20 mins or final result, but its nice to see attacks,passes etc

Our football under MM was terrible, we had no flair or attacking prowess. He wasted millions on players not up to this level, leaving us with a threadbare squad lacking in pace throughout.
How this was going to keep us up is beyond me.

Totally agree we needed a change cos were going down without a fight the way things were!

I believe if the relationship was fine with Tan we would have been 17~15th.

The reality is it wasn't and we are never going to survive in constant turmoil.

We are going down, Tan will never get a return on his investment and it is his fault, he is the leader. Tan can't fight the world and win this. The world via tabloid stereotypical profiling has us as a basket case, the fans are disillusioned, the good players will be looking for moves, will Marshal,Caulker,KTC, Medal,Mutch,Kim and Campbell want to be in the championship next season after tasting (and earning) the premier league.

He could make a fist of it, but his inner circle won't tell him the truth. He needs to declare publicly

1- Return to Blue next season
2 - Appoint a Director of Football to link between the owner and the football department of the club

Get the fans back on side, get some excitement back instead of the pending sense of gloom. His exit strategy is the flotation, it won't be viable in the championship.

It won't happen as he and his team are clueless

The foundations Malky set are brilliant. As long as the new manager doesn't carry on with the Football he played.

Annis, being a home team and not testing the keeper on Boxing Day just got me to the point where I weren't fully concerned with him getting sacked. Gutted for him and the club as he was a breath of fresh air since he walked in but he wouldn't keep us up, if he was manager of the game yesterday we wouldn't have got a single point.

He had the time to change the team but he kept making wrong selections.

what foundations..........its a vastly over paid poor squad..........whoever comes in has the opposite job to the one he had........not the luxury of building a squad of players you want..but having to sift through and deal with a bunch you dont want........NEW MANAGER.....thinks the dane is pants..he is stuck with that wage for 5 f*cking years.........foundations of quick sand

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I liked malky and the fight he installed in the team,but his style of football wouldn't have kept us up,when we attacked Sunderland yesterday we looked a different team,then when we employed malky tactics,and sat deep that's when we allowed Sunderland back into the game

ifs, buts and maybes...

I didn't agree with the way it was done, but I think Tan had to make this decision now with the window coming up. If the figures posted in the papers yesterday are true, can you honestly blame him for not wanting to give Malky another penny because I think he is totally justified in taking that stance. No coincidence that yesterday two of Malkys favourites come on in Gunnarsson and Cowie and we concede two goals in ten minutes. He failed to use the money at his disposal wisely and left us to fight a relegation battle with what was mostly a championship squad. You simply can't spend 8 million big ones on a striker for the future when you need goals now. I don't know you Annis, but it does seem obvious that you are being blinded by other issues in your stance on Malky's capabilities - we all have an opinion and nobody id right or wrong, but surely the facts speak for themselves.

Kerslake made mistakes with the substitutions yesterday as despite tiring Kimbo was bossing the midfield and was the out ball every time and Noone did a great job of tracking back all afternoon. A shame as we worked hard and for once played some attractive attacking football to get ahead. I hope that Tan takes his time and doesn't panic with the appointment as this is possibly the most important decision he will ever make at the club.

ifs, buts and maybes...

I didn't agree with the way it was done, but I think Tan had to make this decision now with the window coming up. If the figures posted in the papers yesterday are true, can you honestly blame him for not wanting to give Malky another penny because I think he is totally justified in taking that stance. No coincidence that yesterday two of Malkys favourites come on in Gunnarsson and Cowie and we concede two goals in ten minutes. He failed to use the money at his disposal wisely and left us to fight a relegation battle with what was mostly a championship squad. You simply can't spend 8 million big ones on a striker for the future when you need goals now. I don't know you Annis, but it does seem obvious that you are being blinded by other issues in your stance on Malky's capabilities - we all have an opinion and nobody id right or wrong, but surely the facts speak for themselves.

Kerslake made mistakes with the substitutions yesterday as despite tiring Kimbo was bossing the midfield and was the out ball every time and Noone did a great job of tracking back all afternoon. A shame as we worked hard and for once played some attractive attacking football to get ahead. I hope that Tan takes his time and doesn't panic with the appointment as this is possibly the most important decision he will ever make at the club.

agree totally

35 or 50 million whichever way you look at it we spent an enormous amount of money to be still fielding the majority of the side from the championship last year. whiits couldent get a game last year but is ever present this year. away from this message board the majority of fans you speak to are of the opinion we would go down under malky and that the brand of football was dire to watch.
i dont like the way it was done to malky but hes gone now so people need to support the eleven men wearing the shirt.
incidentally the next manager appointed will be the 25th one since i started going with my dad umpteen years ago so managers come and go all the time as far as im concerned.

Totally agree if tan had kept his yellow head out of the football there is no way we would of gone down under malky. The man is a f*cking joke and looking at some of the favourites for the job I think we are fucked now

It's all about opinions, I accept that, but I believe we were going nowhere in a hurry under MM who sadly had been found out, or rather his lack of experience, was being exposed. Add that to his spending during the summer where let's face it he spent money faster than a drunken sailor of shore leave and the result was inevitable.

The last 15 minutes of the game yesterday was another perfect example of how the MM mind set was failing when Kerslake, clearly a MM clone, decided to "Protect" what we had and park the bus on the edge of our own penalty area. Anyone remember Barnsley last year or Coventry the season before the results, at any level, are predictable and last night we gave Sunderland a get out of jail free card and they took it.

I honestly believe that we need a new broom to sweep every member of the MM coaching team away and replace them with experience, tactical understanding and basic courage. If that is done then I honestly believe we can stay up but under MM and his team we would have to rely on there being 3 worse teams than us.

By the end of January we will be firmly placed in the bottom 3 and playing catch up and again, in my opinion, we would have been with MM in charge.

Let's hope that by then our new manager will start to have an affect and through February and March we can start picking up the points which we need to keep our PL position next season.

On the Football pitch where it really matters/forget the politics side.

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

If Tan had not turned on Malky and bit by bit made it harder and harder for Malky to manage our club, Malky's team would of come through any bad patches, no were not a class team, but we were under Malky a few weeks ago a passionate/never say die team.

Remember not once were we in the bottom three under Malky, Malky had taken us up as Champions and was adapting to the Premier League. Malky Mackay has the 4th highest ever win rate % as a Manager of Cardiff City in our History.

Malky stood up to Tan and Tan disliked that, if we now get a puppet, I really fear we will go down this season, in fact I believe we will now, unless Tan is willing to get a proven Premier League manager who can handle Tan?

Malky might of made some mistakes and he def did in my opinion with the signing of Cornelius, Gestede could do better than him and that says something, but dont all managers make mistakes?

I said from day one Malky should have been given the whole of this season.

So now, not only do we have fans like myself who despise Tan for the Rebrand, but fans now who now are fed up with Tans circus over the last few months(yet before supported Tan), yes there are fans on here who believe Tan can do no wrong, thats their opinions, but personally I can only see our club going one way and thats down under Tan.

The Worlds media/TV Pundits/Football Managers are all shocked/gobsmacked at the goings on at our club and no one on here can not deny this.

Even tonight on Match of the Day they called us the Xmas Pantomime.

I honestly dont know what the solution is? For me the ideal solution would be for Tan to find a buyer ASAP.

Any ideas?

Totally agree with you mate the man is a menace to football and is ruining are club.
Some of us seen it from the start most have now cought up some will never learn.
The man is a clueless idiot.

On the Football pitch where it really matters/forget the politics side.

I honestly believe Malky would of kept us up this season, in fact I had no doubts at all, of course now we will never know.

Agree 100%.