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Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:18 am

EXCLUSIVE: Revealed - The £50m deals that angered Tan and cost Mackay his Cardiff job

Vincent Tan was angered by Malky Mackay's spending spree in the summer
Andreas Cornelius, who has yet to score for the club, could cost £10m
John Brayford, Peter Odemwingie and Gary Medel signings criticised
Sportsmail reveal image rights and agent fees part of the problem, too
Mackay and sacked head of recruitment Iain Moody defend investments
David Kerslake and Joe McBride will take charge for Saturday's game

By Riath Al-Samarrai and Neil Ashton

PUBLISHED: 23:00, 27 December 2013 | UPDATED: 23:07, 27 December 2013

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Malky Mackay was fired as Cardiff manager on Friday as the full details of the club’s £50million summer spending spree emerged for the first time.

Cardiff chairman Vincent Tan sacked Mackay less than 24 hours after the 3-0 defeat at home to Southampton in the Barclays Premier League.

The staggering amounts paid for players, which led to the deterioration of the relationship between Tan and Mackay, can be revealed, along with the massive signing-on fees, image rights deals and fees to agents.

VIDEO: Scroll down for Malky Mackay's last press conference as Cardiff manager
Sacked: Malky Mackay (above) was sacked as manager of Cardiff City by Vincent Tan (below), but Sportsmail can reveal the full extent of the summer that enraged the owner...

Sacked: Malky Mackay (above) was sacked as manager of Cardiff City by Vincent Tan (below), but Sportsmail can reveal the full extent of the summer that enraged the owner...
Controversial: Cardiff owner Vincent Tan has courted controversy for his attitude towards Mackay, who is now favourite for the Baggies position

Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are just two of the signings that angered Tan
Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are just two of the signings that angered Tan

Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are two of the signings that angered Tan


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TIMELINE OF A CRISIS

April 16: Cardiff City are promoted to the Barclays Premier League. Vincent Tan initially promises a cash injection of £25million for new players but that sum is later increased to £35m.

October 8: Mackay's head of recruitment, Iain Moody, who worked with him at Watford, is placed on gardening leave and then sacked. He is replaced by 23-year-old Alisher Apsalyamov, who attended the same Swiss school as one of Tan’s sons. Overspending in the summer is later given as the reason.

October 31: Kazakhstani Apsalyamov, who earlier in the summer had been painting parts of the stadium, stands down from his position as he did not have the correct visa.

December 16: Tan, via Cardiff CEO Simon Lim, releases a statement slamming Mackay for saying after a win over West Brom that, in an ideal world, he would three new signings in January. Lim says Tan is upset and that Mackay will not get a ‘single penny’ to spend. Lim says Cardiff overspent by £15m in the summer.

December 16: Tan sends Mackay a long email criticising his signings, results and the team’s performances. It is understood this email made 27 points, culminating in an ultimatum: resign or be sacked. Mackay replied: ‘No, thank you.’

December 21: Mackay reiterates after losing to Liverpool that he will not resign from his job. He later revealed he expected to be sacked that weekend.

December 22: Chairman Mehmet Dalman, seen as a peace-broker in the saga, issues a club statement that says Mackay will stay as manager for the ‘foreseeable future’ after postponing a holiday to hold an emergency meeting with Tan in London.

December 27: Mackay is sacked.

RIATH AL-SAMARRAI

The signings include £10m on striker Andreas Cornelius, who has yet to score for the club, and more than £2m on full back John Brayford, who has yet to play in the Premier League.

In an extraordinary statement released on Friday, Tan accused Mackay of generating favourable media publicity and that ‘far too much dirty linen had been exposed to the public gaze’.

But Sportsmail understands Tan is still furious with the overspending in the transfer market in the summer and the sums signed off for players who have not performed.

These deals also played a crucial role in October’ s dismissal of head of recruitment Iain Moody. Cardiff’s billionaire backer said that he authorised £35m to be spent while Moody maintains that in meetings held in mid-April the sum agreed was £50m. But Mackay insisted that he had done a good job. ‘As disappointing as today’s decision is, I am able to look back at my time at Cardiff with immense pride,’ he said.

‘A League Cup final followed by promotion to the Premier League for the first time, achieved as winners of the Championship, allowed the club a move back to this elite level after a 51-year absence.

‘I would like to thank everyone who has stood behind me resolutely, especially in these recent turbulent months. I hope that all of the progress that has been made so far will not be impaired in any way by today’s enforced changes.’

Among the signings which angered Tan was Cornelius.

The 20-year-old striker left FC Copenhagen, where he earned £6,000 a week, to sign a five-year contract at Cardiff worth £45,000 a week.

Cardiff paid a club-record £7.668m, possibly rising to £10.93m based on appearances. But he has come on just seven times as a substitute and played only 87 minutes of football since his move from the Danish champions. He has yet to score.

When Tan expressed surprise at the salary being paid to the untested Cornelius, he sought to impose a wage limit on new recruits, including midfielder Gary Medel.

Sevilla, who finished ninth in La Liga last season but who were struggling financially, sold Medel to Cardiff for £10m — though sources in Spain suggested Sevilla valued him at nearer £6m. The fee could rise to £15m, on appearances.

The deal was signed off by Moody when Sevilla arrived in Manchester for Rio Ferdinand’s testimonial at Old Trafford on August 9.
THE FOUR SIGNINGS THAT ANGERED CARDIFF'S OWNER TAN

ANDREAS CORNELIUS (Striker)

Signed from FC Copenhagen for £7.668m, rising to £10.93m

Agent fees: £863,000

Signing-on fee: £1.25m

Salary at FC Copenhagen: £6,000 per week

Salary at Cardiff: £45,000 per week

Appearances: 7 GOALS: 0

PETER ODEMWINGIE (Striker)

Signed from West Brom for £2.25m

Agent fees: £500,000

Salary at Cardiff: Approx. £35,000 per week

Appearances: 15 GOALS: 2

JOHN BRAYFORD (Defender)

Signed from Derby for £1.75m, rising to £2.25m based on appearances

Agent fees: £281,000

Signing-on fee: £416,000

Salary at Cardiff: £18,000 per week

Appearances: 2

GARY MEDEL (Midfielder)

Signed from Sevilla for £10m, rising to £15m

Agent fees: £800,000

Signing-on fee: £1.25m

Image rights deal: £1.6m

Salary at Cardiff: £35,000 per week

Appearances: 17


Costly: Gary Medel has been one of Cardiff's best players since arriving from Sevilla, but he could cost up to £15m

Costly: Gary Medel has been one of Cardiff's best players since arriving from Sevilla, but he could cost up to £15m

Not a fan of Tan: This Cardiff supporter turned up at the stadium after Mackay was axed

Not a fan of Tan: This Cardiff supporter turned up at the stadium after Mackay was axed
Mackay: No meeting scheduled with Vincent Tan
VINCENT TAN'S STATEMENT

'There has been a good deal of publicity generated by and about Mr Malky Mackay over the last few months. Indeed far too much dirty linen has been exposed to the public gaze.

'But, I stress, not by me. Indeed, I have deliberately not responded to this, hoping that the Club can be judged on its football rather than personalised arguments about who said what to whom.

'I have, however, regretfully concluded that it is no longer fair to the Club, its players, its fans, or the public more generally, for this uncomfortable state of affairs to continue. Cardiff City Football Club means far too much to us all for it to be distracted by this.'

Medel, who has been one of Cardiff’s best players, is paid £35,000 a week and was given a £1.25m signing-on fee. He also has an image-rights contract worth £1.6m — even though Mackay refuses all interview requests for the player.

The agents involved in the deal will be paid £800,000 over the course of Medel’s four-year contract.

Among the other signings is full-back Brayford, who arrived from Championship side Derby County in the summer.

Cardiff paid £1.75m, plus £500,000 in additional clauses, to sign one of the most promising players in the league. Brayford, 25, was regarded so highly at Pride Park that they were reluctant to let him quit for less than £3m.

Eventually he signed for Cardiff in July. Cardiff will pay him £416,000 in signing-on fees over the course of his contract and the agent will pick up £281,000. Brayford, who is paid £18,000 a week, has not played in the top flight and wants to leave.

When Cardiff put together a package for Peter Odemwingie, Stoke City were also in the market. Moody and Stoke chief executive Tony Scholes agreed to make the same offer to West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace for the player and let him decide where he wanted to play his football.

The offer was believed to be £2.25m, with the clubs agreeing to pay £500,000 in agents’ fees which was split between two parties.
Sought after: Many clubs wanted Peter Odemwingie from West Brom, but Cardiff were perhaps the 'unlucky' party who secured his services, shelling out £500,000 in agents' costs

Sought after: Many clubs wanted Peter Odemwingie from West Brom, but Cardiff were perhaps the 'unlucky' party who secured his services, shelling out £500,000 in agents' costs

More money to go: Sportsmail can also reveal there is a clause in Steven Caulker's contract meaning Spurs could profit from any further sale

More money to go: Sportsmail can also reveal there is a clause in Steven Caulker's contract meaning Spurs could profit from any further sale

Sportsmail can also reveal a sell-on clause in defender Steven Caulker’s contract.

Caulker was bought from Tottenham for £11m but, if they decide to sell him, Cardiff must pay 50 per cent of any transfer fee over £10m to Tottenham.

Last week Moody began legal proceedings against Cardiff after chief executive Simon Lim released a statement claiming that ‘the overspending of £15m has greatly upset Tan Sri, resulting in the removal of Iain Moody as head of recruitment’. Moody has since joined Crystal Palace. He was Cardiff’s authorised signatory in negotiations with clubs, players and agents.

Although this is highly unusual — normally the chief executive signs off transfer deals — there is nothing to suggest Moody or Mackay have done anything improper.
In charge? CEO Simon Lim (left) is supposedly supposed to sign off on transfer deals

In charge? CEO Simon Lim (left) is supposedly supposed to sign off on transfer deals

Sacked: Iain Moody was relieved of his duties as a authoritative figure behind the signings

Sacked: Iain Moody was relieved of his duties as a authoritative figure behind the signings

Anger: The fans are unhappy with Tan's treatment of manager Mackay and the decision to change the colour of the strip from blue to red

Anger: The fans are unhappy with Tan's treatment of manager Mackay and the decision to change the colour of the strip from blue to red

Waving goodbye: Mackay has defended himself after being ditched

Waving goodbye: Mackay has defended himself after being ditched

Mackay responded by saying in a statement to Sportsmail: ‘All football clubs at the elite level have systems in place for corporate governance. Cardiff City is no exception. A manager, even in the Premier League, does not go out and “sign” players. All recommendations go to his CEO and board. Essentially the chief executive on the board’s behalf, deals with all financial arrangements to finalise any signings.’

It is understood that the club have already undertaken a thorough financial audit, including an email trail, into Cardiff’s transfer business in the summer.

These details are included in board minutes following Moody’s departure and have made it clear there is no financial impropriety or improper conduct.

Moody maintains that his presentation for new players to Lim, the club’s chairman, was approved by Tan after they won promotion to the Premier League.

Cardiff are only one point above the drop zone after they slipped to a ninth defeat of the season at home to Southampton on Boxing Day. Mackay’s assistant David Kerslake is expected to take the team for Saturday’s match against Sunderland. Mackay’s dismissal comes just days after Tan sent his manager an email warning him he must ‘resign or be sacked’.
Protests: Cardiff fans held a large protest on Boxing Day, and at Liverpool last week

Protests: Cardiff fans held a large protest on Boxing Day, and at Liverpool last week
Support: Mackay was backed to the hilt by the Cardiff fans but find himself out of work

Support: Mackay was backed to the hilt by the Cardiff fans but find himself out of work
Thumbs up: Mackay (right) and Tan in happier times and (below) with the Championship trophy

Thumbs up: Mackay (right) and Tan in happier times and (below) with the Championship trophy
Winners: Tan (left) and Mackay celebrate promotion earlier this year

After Mackay was fired, Tan said: ‘There has been a good deal of publicity generated by and about Mr Mackay over the last few months. Indeed far too much dirty linen has been exposed to the public gaze. But, I stress, not by me.

‘Indeed, I have deliberately not responded to this, hoping that the club can be judged on its football rather than personalised arguments about who said what to whom. I have, however, regretfully concluded that it is no longer fair to the club, its players, its fans, or the public more generally, for this uncomfortable state of affairs to continue.

‘Cardiff City Football Club means far too much to us all for it to be distracted by this.’

Yesterday Steve Borley, former chairman and now non-executive director at Cardiff, tweeted: ‘spent all afternoon with him (Mackay) and the staff. Best manager in my lifetime’.

HOW SPORTSMAIL REPORTED THE CHAOS AT CARDIFF

October 9: EXCLUSIVE: His right-hand man is replaced by a 23-year-old Kazakhstani, who is a mate of the owner's son and was PAINTING walls at the club three months ago... but Mackay WON'T quit

October 9: They won't force me out! Bluebirds deny rumours Mackay has been asked to resign as Cardiff manager by owner Tan

November 3: Mackay takes 'dig' at Cardiff owner Tan after hailing sacked Moody in wake of derby win

November 30: Mackay 'not concerned' by Cardiff lining up talks with Turkish boss Vural

December 17: He won't get a 'single penny'! Mackay on brink of exit after Cardiff chief attacks manager over new signings

December 17: I've done nothing wrong! Mackay won't back down as Cardiff transfer row escalates

December 20: Mackay told to resign or be sacked as Cardiff manager by owner Tan... and Solskjaer tops list of potential successors

December 20: Another Cardiff farce: Mackay fails to show for press conference as fans protest against Tan

December 21: EXCLUSIVE: Eriksson being lined up by Cardiff chief Tan to replace Mackay

December 22: Unqualified 23-year-old Apsalyamov leaves role as Cardiff's head of recruitment after visa problems

December 23: Reprieved Mackay STILL facing a fight to keep his job despite dramatic U-turn from Cardiff owner Tan


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Re: why isnt the mail story an sticky??????

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:33 am

shhh!!! you don't want to get banned guys!
keep your heads down!
:lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:36 am

Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:38 am

CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:40 am

Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.

thank you annis for making it a sticky and balancing everything up :thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:41 am

If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:42 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.

thank you annis for making it a sticky and balancing everything up :thumbup:


Wez, I honestly like to see fair debates :thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:42 am

bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Haha some have not thought of that.

Lets just say Ma;laysians stick together.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:43 am

bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:44 am

I'd take that article with a massive pinch of salt, every deal has a lot of extras going on behind the scenes, it's the nature of football these days, also managers rarely have anything to do with the money side of deals, they tell the money men who they want and they make it happen. I think VT knew about the deals every step of the way, he just binned MM because he refused to become a yes man. Look at the 'substantial funds available' for new manager press this morning. The guy is a bellend.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:46 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:48 am

Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.


Yes but Malky and Moody are the football guys, and lim would of took their word that these deals would be worth the money which they are not. Moody and malky have stitched the people signing the cheques right up.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:48 am

bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:49 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.


:lol: now I've heard it all

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:50 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:52 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Funny how annis is only telling us about this now :laughing5: :thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:52 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


So if everything written in the mail is true, do you believe it's right that both Malky and Moody are paid compensation in full ???

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:54 am

CantonG wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Funny how annis is only telling us about this now :laughing5: :thumbup:


I was only told that at 11pm last night.

Right I am of down to the Ninian Pub :thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:55 am

bluebird66 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


So if everything written in the mail is true, do you believe it's right that both Malky and Moody are paid compensation in full ???



Moody got paid in full, so ask yourself why ?

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:57 am

bluebird66 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


So if everything written in the mail is true, do you believe it's right that both Malky and Moody are paid compensation in full ???

i surpose that malky had got us up so deserves it ,im suprised that tan didnt put malkly on gardening leave like dave jones :ayatollah:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:00 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Funny how annis is only telling us about this now :laughing5: :thumbup:


I was only told that at 11pm last night.

Right I am of down to the Ninian Pub :thumbup:


What a coincidence the same time the article was published :lol:

Have a gd one :ayatollah:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


So if everything written in the mail is true, do you believe it's right that both Malky and Moody are paid compensation in full ???



Moody got paid in full, so ask yourself why ?


They might have overpaid for players, but haven't breached their contracts so if the club are to sack them then they are obliged to honour their contracts.

I wonder how much they will ACTUALLY have had to pay out to Moody as he walked into another job soon after. Same goes for Malky.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:03 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.

so your implying tan has bought off the daily mail,come on Annis that a bit far fetched.
like you said the mail has been spot on this season with there news,a bit far fetched to say the mail an tan are out
to finish malky off when all the figures can be easily confirmed

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:11 pm

Cant believe I just read that.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:12 pm

Hatchet Job going on by Tan.

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:16 pm

Mistakes and Errors have been made by all parties involved.

No one is innocent.



Off with their heads.


:thumbup:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:20 pm

Malky Mackay has earned a great deal of good will from the way he has handled this whole situation so I don't think he's come off the worse here. Google forums of other Clubs and you'll see lots of criticism regarding Tan and Tan only.

Your ex-Manager will easily get another job elsewhere. Pepe Mel looked odds on to become the next West Brom Manager but he's now out of the running. I wonder why that is?

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:44 pm

bluebird66 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird66 wrote:If everything written in the Mail article is 100% accurate and it may well prove to be, then surely both Moody and Malky would have been sacked for gross misconduct and no compensation paid to either of them ??


Ian moddy got fully paid up on his contract to May 2014, a Fact :thumbup:


That's what I'm trying to say Annis , just doesn't add up to me and that's why I would like to hear Malkys take on things , as the saying goes " two sides to every story "


I have to say the Daily Mail, have been virtually Spot on this season.But Yesterday I was told Tan has paid big money to get Malky discredited and has gone all out to finish Malky off.[/quote][/quote]


Think annis statement discredits every thing he's said before as he is obviously blinded by malkies charm! It's absolutely absurd to say tan is paying too discredit malky. :old:

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.



Yep Lim authorised it, but Moody felt the money was right for those deals, quite a few were obviously wrong, we didn't get good value in the market that for sure and bought a few duds. Lim and Tan would have provided the money and would expect the Manager and his head of recruitment to be the experts and get a good deal, which it's looks like they failed to do.

Catherine, Caulker and Medal look worth it to me, the rest of the deals look bad IMO....

Re: Daily Mail Story

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:50 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CantonG wrote:Mally amd moody have raped our club if those figures are true


And Simon Lim authorised it all on Tans behalf. Lim, wrote the contracts up, handed the money over, signed the deals off, All facts.



Yep Lim authorised it, but Moody felt the money was right for those deals, quite a few were obviously wrong, we didn't get good value in the market that for sure and bought a few duds. Lim and Tan would have provided the money and would expect the Manager and his head of recruitment to be the experts and get a good deal, which it's looks like they failed to do.

Catherine, Caulker and Medal look worth it to me, the rest of the deals look bad IMO....

:thumbup: i wonder why sam hamman has come out and said today in an interview with the bbc that tan needs to take control of the whole club from top to bottom :?: