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Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:39 pm

Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:46 pm

The dispute stems from the overspend in the summer.

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:47 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:55 pm

I guessed that it was about the overspend but surely the owner either accepts what has taken place or there is not going to be a solution. The clock cannot be turned back.

If there are talks and the owner accepts what he is told and accepts that then clearly there would be progress and the club could move on but as we stand I cannot see how a dispute can be resolved if the owner does not want to enter into dialogue/or change his stance. I suppose time will tell.

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:57 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:I guessed that it was about the overspend but surely the owner either accepts what has taken place or there is not going to be a solution. The clock cannot be turned back.

If there are talks and the owner accepts what he is told and accepts that then clearly there would be progress and the club could move on but as we stand I cannot see how a dispute can be resolved if the owner does not want to enter into dialogue/or change his stance. I suppose time will tell.

He has agreed to enter dialogue. Dalman told the press as Anfield the meeting was arranged for Friday.

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:59 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:I guessed that it was about the overspend but surely the owner either accepts what has taken place or there is not going to be a solution. The clock cannot be turned back.

If there are talks and the owner accepts what he is told and accepts that then clearly there would be progress and the club could move on but as we stand I cannot see how a dispute can be resolved if the owner does not want to enter into dialogue/or change his stance. I suppose time will tell.

He has agreed to enter dialogue. Dalman told the press as Anfield the meeting was arranged for Friday.


Is there any point in this dialogue?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:00 pm

wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem


Wez,

Wheres the 500k come from?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:02 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:I guessed that it was about the overspend but surely the owner either accepts what has taken place or there is not going to be a solution. The clock cannot be turned back.

If there are talks and the owner accepts what he is told and accepts that then clearly there would be progress and the club could move on but as we stand I cannot see how a dispute can be resolved if the owner does not want to enter into dialogue/or change his stance. I suppose time will tell.

He has agreed to enter dialogue. Dalman told the press as Anfield the meeting was arranged for Friday.


IMO no as I think Tan has made his mind up.

Is there any point in this dialogue?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:20 pm

Daya wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem


Wez,

Wheres the 500k come from?

Invoiced to the club for payment when medal was a youngster came out of the blue from Chile ,all over this message board a few weeks back moody and malky over sight daya

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:23 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Daya wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem


Wez,

Wheres the 500k come from?

Invoiced to the club for payment when medal was a youngster came out of the blue from Chile ,all over this message board a few weeks back moody and malky over sight daya


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:59 pm

Daya wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Daya wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem


Wez,

Wheres the 500k come from?

Invoiced to the club for payment when medal was a youngster came out of the blue from Chile ,all over this message board a few weeks back moody and malky over sight daya


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Problem is most fans think moody and malky can do no wrong ,they are all bad as each other

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:03 pm

Medel's worth it though Wez, he's a he'll of a player, without him we would be in the relegation zone so it's a drop in the ocean.....

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:11 pm

Bluebina wrote:Medel's worth it though Wez, he's a he'll of a player, without him we would be in the relegation zone so it's a drop in the ocean.....

Agree mate but the fact is it cost more money than was stated but people still think moody hasn't done anything wrong

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:21 pm

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... /4501584/-?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:32 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:I guessed that it was about the overspend but surely the owner either accepts what has taken place or there is not going to be a solution. The clock cannot be turned back.

If there are talks and the owner accepts what he is told and accepts that then clearly there would be progress and the club could move on but as we stand I cannot see how a dispute can be resolved if the owner does not want to enter into dialogue/or change his stance. I suppose time will tell.

He has agreed to enter dialogue. Dalman told the press as Anfield the meeting was arranged for Friday.


Is there any point in this dialogue?


Correct.

Lets face it, this isn't about overspends or team tactics etc. It's about Tan basically hating the ground that Mackay walks on. He feels that you should be singing HIS name and praising HIM! You only have to look at his 60th birthday celebration video to see that this is the type of adulation he has come to expect. Referring to Malky as 'the f*cking hero' when he resolved the bonus dispute? Nah, it ain't about the overspend it's Tan's personal agenda with Mackay and that cannot be resolved by any dialogue!

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:32 pm

Did moody sign the contract off then ?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:47 am

wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of some sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:45 am

timdog80 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of Osome sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

I haunt got a clue who signs them off but the club are blaming moody so maybe he did ,but the medal deal there was 100% f**k up

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:38 am

wez1927 wrote:
timdog80 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of Osome sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

I haunt got a clue who signs them off but the club are blaming moody so maybe he did ,but the medal deal there was 100% f**k up


People blame lim but if that's the case why hasn't malkysaid so, As what will he lose? He clearly won't resign so can say what he likes if it's true! But maybe there lies the problem? What is the real truth!!!!

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:44 pm

Wez yet again believing stories that suit his agenda, yet criticises anyone for believing any stories that don't. :lol:

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:49 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Wez yet again believing stories that suit his agenda, yet criticises anyone for believing any stories that don't. :lol:

f**k off ,you got more faces than big Ben ,roathy

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:59 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Wez yet again believing stories that suit his agenda, yet criticises anyone for believing any stories that don't. :lol:

f**k off ,you got more faces than big Ben ,roathy


Don't get so upset that you've been caught being hypocritical again. :lol: why is it that you believe stories that shit your pro tan agenda, then doubt any other story? Genuine question.

Roathy? Of course. :lol:

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:05 pm

The money is small change to tan, the money isn't the issue with him, it's all about prestige and image. Fans should always b suspicious of motives of owners, only got to look at Sam and tan to see that, but fact is that we need investment and humiliating tan is not the answer. The least we need to do is give him a way out without losing face.

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:01 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
timdog80 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of Osome sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

I haunt got a clue who signs them off but the club are blaming moody so maybe he did ,but the medal deal there was 100% f**k up


People blame lim but if that's the case why hasn't malkysaid so, As what will he lose? He clearly won't resign so can say what he likes if it's true! But maybe there lies the problem? What is the real truth!!!!


If you listen to malkys interview the other day he said something along the lines of "when get gethin Jenkins and Alan Whitley were here we had a process and things ran smoothly" when he was talking about the recruitment policy he likes to work to ;)

To me that came across that malky feels things dont run so well now Mr lim is in charge ;)

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:08 pm

timdog80 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
timdog80 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of Osome sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

I haunt got a clue who signs them off but the club are blaming moody so maybe he did ,but the medal deal there was 100% f**k up


People blame lim but if that's the case why hasn't malkysaid so, As what will he lose? He clearly won't resign so can say what he likes if it's true! But maybe there lies the problem? What is the real truth!!!!


If you listen to malkys interview the other day he said something along the lines of "when get gethin Jenkins and Alan Whitley were here we had a process and things ran smoothly" when he was talking about the recruitment policy he likes to work to ;)

To me that came across that malky feels things dont run so well now Mr lim is in charge ;)


That's stating the obvious to be fair, as the problems seems to stem from lims involvement in transfers

Re: Dalman - Dispute With Malky

Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:19 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
timdog80 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
timdog80 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Sky Sports reports that City will bring in a new manager if the dispute with Malky cannot be resolved. What is the dispute? To my knowledge a dispute is generally where this is a disagreement between two parties.

From what I have seen it is the owner who has the grievance with Malky and not Malky with the owner or the club. What is there to resolve? One minute the owner wants to sack Malky and now he has been talked into giving him a stay of execution although it appears as though the owners stance has not eased by not entering into dialogue with the manager.

If the owner had issues with Malky before then clearly he either accepts what has allegedly happened and moves on or there is no possibility of Osome sort of stability at the club. It would be interesting to know what this dispute is?

The dispute is the transfer add ons always have been ,if malky had said its moody s fault then it would of blown over but he didn't ,the medal transfer has cost the club an extra 500 k part of the problem

OK, so let's say your right!

The question I'd then ask is where's the other 14.5 million he's been accused of somehow overspending?!?

...and what responsibly does lim take for signing the contracts off?, as Tan don't seem to have any grievance with lim for the overspend yet he signed them off didn't he?

I haunt got a clue who signs them off but the club are blaming moody so maybe he did ,but the medal deal there was 100% f**k up


People blame lim but if that's the case why hasn't malkysaid so, As what will he lose? He clearly won't resign so can say what he likes if it's true! But maybe there lies the problem? What is the real truth!!!!


If you listen to malkys interview the other day he said something along the lines of "when get gethin Jenkins and Alan Whitley were here we had a process and things ran smoothly" when he was talking about the recruitment policy he likes to work to ;)

To me that came across that malky feels things dont run so well now Mr lim is in charge ;)


That's stating the obvious to be fair, as the problems seems to stem from lims involvement in transfers

Exactly!, and it seems malkys being made a scape goat for lims errors!?

I think malky genuinely wants to be here and is playing a balancing act between strengthening his position by letting people/fans/media know how he feels and what's going on behind the scenes but is being carefully not to go and publicly outright condemn Tan and Lim for there errors/behavior as that will definitely get him sacked straight away.......hence why I believe he genuinely wants to be a part of this club and Finnish what he started as hes Said ;)