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Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:17 pm

Many years ago i didn't have an opinion on race,It didn't matter what colour what country any one was from.
But after 15 years of Labour rule (it must be about that) i have suddenly got an opinion a very strong one.
Our Borders have become open to any one because Labour believes that we should on human rights allow any one in no matter if they are murderers, rapists,Paedophiles, low life's that have committed genocide, gangsters. and spongers.

Not only are they are happy with this they are also determined to let our country be turned into an Islamic State , bowing to extremism left right and centre and pushing Christianity and catholics out and branding them racists and bigots and making there beliefs illegal.

Our cities are being run by immigrant underworld and our hospitals and our housing are at bursting point, with these immigrants pushing every one else out.

Immigrants genuine ones who come here and have done for generations who live peacefully amongst us who pay there taxes and benefit our economy are now facing the backlash thanks to new Labour.Which is not warranted i admit.

If we disagree with new Labour we are told we are racists and they even made up a name especially for us xenophobic. Laws are being made to make our views illegal and as we found out with that one eyed Scottish prick we are all BIGOTS and that's just his own supporters. If Brown says i am Racist and make laws to say I'm racist then I am a racist get used to it because i wont shut up i will express my views and i don't give a f**k who i offend.This country belongs to you and me, and our forefathers fought and a lot of them gave there lives for us to live in a democracy.

There are millions of illegals in this country and we need to be brutal and throw the lot of them out. Criminals all of them must also be made to leave and let the ones who want to integrate Into our society to do so.

Not one more immigrant should be allowed in until this has been done. This is my opinion and i have a right to say it.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:21 pm

racism is a hatred of someone else because they are different. Racism is prejudice, making assumptions about someone based on their skin colour. Racism is denying someone an equal opportunity based on their ethnicity.

saying we need to close the shutters for a while, take stock until we understand the problem, then plan ahead accordingly is not racism by any definition. its appreciating this country has little in the way of public service slack and as such we need to be a little bit more frugal in our attitude toward net internal migration.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:26 pm

:shock: Somebody whoo thinks exactley the same way i do but couldn't put it in writing. As a post note i would also question catholocism, not general people who say i'm catholic but the whole devout catholic scenario, My own personal view is that it is a fucked up religion for the devout. My view only..

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:30 pm

Say two Our fathers, 3 Hail Marys and wash yer mouth out young man. Heathen!

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:32 pm

Pill Blue wrote:Say two Our fathers, 3 Hail Marys and wash yer mouth out young man. Heathen!



Just said 1000 hail Mary's Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:44 pm

I totally agree with Nuclear Blue and if he is a racist then so am I. What is never explained by any politician or PC do gooder is how the hell are we to have integration when there is a constant stream of new arrivals?

If you think about it integration is absolutely impossible to achieve in such circumstances as large communities of foreigners build up where the English language is not required and they live by the laws of their homeland.

I never understand why we are told it is impossible to close the boarders and stop all immigration. Of course it can be done if the will is there to do it.

I notice in the recent election campaign that most of the political parties talked tough on immigration which led to the BNP vote dwindling.

If the Tories/Labour/LibDems want that vote to keep on shrinking then they must tackle this problem properly or by hell the BNP will be back big time.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 7:46 pm

very good posts nuckie and tony :ayatollah:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:03 pm

Thank god we,v got people with sense on this forum,nuclearblue that was very well put mate,it does,nt make us racist because we are concerned about our country,might invite you to our next meeting for a speech,if the dickheads on here dont understand what you were saying then their not worth argueing with. :ayatollah:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:13 pm

I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:17 pm

abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.



surely UKIP would have been a less extreme protest vote?

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:24 pm

abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.


From what I have seen previously abf9 you will probably at some point get called a 'thick, stupid, bigoted racist'

The reason? You voted BNP.

Never mind the fact you have explained it was a protest vote and you don't believe in the absolute objectives of the BNP and had no other options at the recent election, you did it and that's all that counts.

It is that kind of left-wing fascism which is now the biggest danger to democracy in this country. There is no longer a viewpoint on immigration or expression through the ballot box. You either sign up to the brain washing multicultural agenda or you’re a racist.

That dictatorial suppression is dangerous I mean really dangerous but no-one in the political world seems to give a dam that it is happening.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:25 pm

Haven't read the thread, just the title.

I'll answer it in terms of CCFC and say CCFC is NOT a racist club, and it's something i'm proud of.
We're in the news quite often about how we behave etc etc, but it never racist.

You don't hear heckling of foreign players here (you may get the odd idiot), unlike Swansea where they heckled their own player.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:25 pm

Feedback wrote:
abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.



surely UKIP would have been a less extreme protest vote?


The trouble with UKIP is they are seen as a one issue party. You only vote for them if you want out of Europe, not really because you are protesting against immigration.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:56 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Many years ago i didn't have an opinion on race,It didn't matter what colour what country any one was from.
But after 15 years of Labour rule (it must be about that) i have suddenly got an opinion a very strong one.
Our Borders have become open to any one because Labour believes that we should on human rights allow any one in no matter if they are murderers, rapists,Paedophiles, low life's that have committed genocide, gangsters. and spongers.

Not only are they are happy with this they are also determined to let our country be turned into an Islamic State , bowing to extremism left right and centre and pushing Christianity and catholics out and branding them racists and bigots and making there beliefs illegal.



where has it been said that the labour party are determined to turn britain into an islamic state ?

we have too many immigrants , we all agree on that .....

I am from a catholic family , I have never been aware that we are being pushed out

making christianity illegal ?

where is the evidence that labour have done that ?

Our cities are being run by immigrant underworld and our hospitals and our housing are at bursting point, with these immigrants pushing every one else out.




Immigrants genuine ones who come here and have done for generations who live peacefully amongst us who pay there taxes and benefit our economy are now facing the backlash thanks to new Labour.Which is not warranted i admit.

If we disagree with new Labour we are told we are racists and they even made up a name especially for us xenophobic. Laws are being made to make our views illegal and as we found out with that one eyed Scottish prick we are all BIGOTS and that's just his own supporters. If Brown says i am Racist and make laws to say I'm racist then I am a racist get used to it because i wont shut up i will express my views and i don't give a f**k who i offend.This country belongs to you and me, and our forefathers fought and a lot of them gave there lives for us to live in a democracy.

xenophobic wasnt made up by new labour

one eyed scottish prick ?..sorry but isnt that just a little bit ignorant ?

I dont think you are a racist , but that last remark means you are certainly a bit ignorant



There are millions of illegals in this country and we need to be brutal and throw the lot of them out. Criminals all of them must also be made to leave and let the ones who want to integrate Into our society to do so.

there are about 800000 , thats not millions ..too much , but not millions

Not one more immigrant should be allowed in until this has been done. This is my opinion and i have a right to say it.


dont disagree with that , even if I think most of it isnt correct

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 8:57 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Feedback wrote:
abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.



surely UKIP would have been a less extreme protest vote?


The trouble with UKIP is they are seen as a one issue party. You only vote for them if you want out of Europe, not really because you are protesting against immigration.



the bnp are also seen as a one issue party

mostly because , they are a one issue party

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:00 pm

mike wrote:Thank god we,v got people with sense on this forum,nuclearblue that was very well put mate,it does,nt make us racist because we are concerned about our country,might invite you to our next meeting for a speech,if the dickheads on here dont understand what you were saying then their not worth argueing with. :ayatollah:



so people who dont agree your views are dickheads ?

thats democratic of you

I am concerned about my country , I just vote bnp

nor do most people

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:01 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.


From what I have seen previously abf9 you will probably at some point get called a 'thick, stupid, bigoted racist'

The reason? You voted BNP.

Never mind the fact you have explained it was a protest vote and you don't believe in the absolute objectives of the BNP and had no other options at the recent election, you did it and that's all that counts.

It is that kind of left-wing fascism which is now the biggest danger to democracy in this country. There is no longer a viewpoint on immigration or expression through the ballot box. You either sign up to the brain washing multicultural agenda or you’re a racist.

That dictatorial suppression is dangerous I mean really dangerous but no-one in the political world seems to give a dam that it is happening.

Tony,I don`t care if I`m called a "thick,stupid,bigoted rascist",we are a democracy so people can call me it.I`ve also seen countries where people are not allowed to give their opinion and call people things and that absolutely sucks.
Hang on,that could be us. :mrgreen:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:01 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.


From what I have seen previously abf9 you will probably at some point get called a 'thick, stupid, bigoted racist'

The reason? You voted BNP.

Never mind the fact you have explained it was a protest vote and you don't believe in the absolute objectives of the BNP and had no other options at the recent election, you did it and that's all that counts.

It is that kind of left-wing fascism which is now the biggest danger to democracy in this country. There is no longer a viewpoint on immigration or expression through the ballot box. You either sign up to the brain washing multicultural agenda or you’re a racist.

That dictatorial suppression is dangerous I mean really dangerous but no-one in the political world seems to give a dam that it is happening.



I dont think everyone who votes bnp is ignorant or racist

although a fair few of them are

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:10 pm

What I like about this board is people have differing views but never get an absolute slagging for it.If it was Mike`s board there would be large amounts of flak.
Swansea fans come on and have a few comments made as do County fans like Milly,but everyone seems to have a laugh.
Top site Annis :ayatollah: :old:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:15 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Feedback wrote:
abf9 wrote:I`m not rascist and am tolerant and have respect for everyone.If someone says something I don`t agree with,it doesn`t matter, they are entitled to their views.It`s called democracy.New Labour has tried to take this piece of democracy away from joe public.New Labour`s view is the only one that counts.

I voted BNP as a protest but am tolerant of everyone,as long as people are allowed there own opinions which is not happening under a so-called socialist government.

I await incoming.



surely UKIP would have been a less extreme protest vote?


The trouble with UKIP is they are seen as a one issue party. You only vote for them if you want out of Europe, not really because you are protesting against immigration.



whereas BNP are known for having many policies yes?

BNP, just like UKIP, are a one trick pony. no difference except one preaches hate, the other preaches salutory neglect and isolation.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:24 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Many years ago i didn't have an opinion on race,It didn't matter what colour what country any one was from.
But after 15 years of Labour rule (it must be about that) i have suddenly got an opinion a very strong one.
Our Borders have become open to any one because Labour believes that we should on human rights allow any one in no matter if they are murderers, rapists,Paedophiles, low life's that have committed genocide, gangsters. and spongers.

Not only are they are happy with this they are also determined to let our country be turned into an Islamic State , bowing to extremism left right and centre and pushing Christianity and catholics out and branding them racists and bigots and making there beliefs illegal.

Our cities are being run by immigrant underworld and our hospitals and our housing are at bursting point, with these immigrants pushing every one else out.

Immigrants genuine ones who come here and have done for generations who live peacefully amongst us who pay there taxes and benefit our economy are now facing the backlash thanks to new Labour.Which is not warranted i admit.

If we disagree with new Labour we are told we are racists and they even made up a name especially for us xenophobic. Laws are being made to make our views illegal and as we found out with that one eyed Scottish prick we are all BIGOTS and that's just his own supporters. If Brown says i am Racist and make laws to say I'm racist then I am a racist get used to it because i wont shut up i will express my views and i don't give a f**k who i offend.This country belongs to you and me, and our forefathers fought and a lot of them gave there lives for us to live in a democracy.

There are millions of illegals in this country and we need to be brutal and throw the lot of them out. Criminals all of them must also be made to leave and let the ones who want to integrate Into our society to do so.

Not one more immigrant should be allowed in until this has been done. This is my opinion and i have a right to say it.



WELL SAID and IF DAVIVD CAMERN had SPOKE OUT LIKE THAT and SAID WHAT MOST PEOPLE BELIVE/FEEL HE WOULD OF RUNAWAY WITH THE ELECTION :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:32 pm

abf9 wrote:What I like about this board is people have differing views but never get an absolute slagging for it.If it was Mike`s board there would be large amounts of flak.
Swansea fans come on and have a few comments made as do County fans like Milly,but everyone seems to have a laugh.
Top site Annis :ayatollah: :old:


Cheers thats why I started This Forum, because we all should be allowed to have an Opinion, without sniping and Slagging each other off :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:36 pm

my opinion is that our grandads fought in the war to enable us to have free speech, the p.c brigade has turned anyone with an outspoken opinion into a racist.
you cant say you are proud to be british anymore without being branded a racist.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:38 pm

rob wrote:my opinion is that our grandads fought in the war to enable us to have free speech, the p.c brigade has turned anyone with an outspoken opinion into a racist.
you cant say you are proud to be british anymore without being branded a racist.


Its the Do-gooders and The Nerds who have RUINED BRITAIN.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 9:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
rob wrote:my opinion is that our grandads fought in the war to enable us to have free speech, the p.c brigade has turned anyone with an outspoken opinion into a racist.
you cant say you are proud to be british anymore without being branded a racist.


Its the Do-gooders and The Nerds who have RUINED BRITAIN.



my thoughts exactly annis, britain has gone soft.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 10:11 pm

this country is going to the dogs..only BNP can save us

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 10:32 pm

I f*cking hate scumbags, who come in all races, but the current political correctness imposed upon us tries to make us feel empathy for the vulnerable.

The vulnerable include drug addicts, alcoholics, people with mental health issues, people with disabilities preventing them from seeking work, asylum seekers, overseas students. Only a proportion of these actually deserve some help.

I lost my job resulting in losing my home and having to claim benefits and seek assistance from my local authority, but guess what, i didn't fall into any of the above categories.

I am a sane white able to work but unfortunately fallen on hard times bloke. Do i get any government assistance?

Have a guess.

BTW I am sofa surfing between friends now because i'm not vulnerable. Only when i reach rock bottom will i qualify for any assistance.

And people who sneak into the country illegally, are more important than me.

f*cking RIGHT I'M RACIST, I'M BEING IGNORED FOR BEING A SANE WHITE BLOKE.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sat May 08, 2010 10:35 pm

A reply to Sludge......... The Church of England and the Catholic Church have been censured recently over there views. The Muslim faith can have whatever views they like and we cant say anything because it would come under racial hatred.

You talk to the average man in the street and they have the same view as i do and from replies to this thread a lot of others agree to.Its just the average person don't get on there keyboards or make a song and dance about it unlike the keyboard warriors who seems to think any one who is white must be a Racist.
Recently the PC brigade were on there high horse who seems to think anyone from Bristol should get down on bended knees and say sorry for the slave trade :shock: what the f**k!! no one was born then what have they got to be sorry about and apologize to who ? This is what i'm on about Sludge do gooders trying to tell everyone white they are racist !! as soon as a white baby is born he's a potential KKK. To see the mayor of Bristol and local politicians in the area give a grovelling apology made my stomach churn.
Yes the slave trade was wrong but FFS they are now all dead its in the past f*cking leave it there.
There are far worse things happening in African countries to there citizens in recent times atrocities to blacks by fellow blacks.
Sludge you seem a nice guy and we will never see eye to eye but please stop lecturing us.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sun May 09, 2010 6:05 am

I will say it again our own government has stopped the freedom of speech and this has changed a lot of peoples feelings, you should be allowed your say whether it is right or wrong.

Re: Racism !! are we racist

Sun May 09, 2010 7:23 am

Feedback wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Feedback wrote:
surely UKIP would have been a less extreme protest vote?


The trouble with UKIP is they are seen as a one issue party. You only vote for them if you want out of Europe, not really because you are protesting against immigration.



whereas BNP are known for having many policies yes?

BNP, just like UKIP, are a one trick pony. no difference except one preaches hate, the other preaches salutory neglect and isolation.


That might be the case but we were talking about registering a protest vote against immigration and you suggested UKIP. I just pointed out if you voted UKIP then it would be more seen as a vote against Europe, rather than immigration.