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Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:59 am

Trust statement in response to the comments yesterday of Cardiff City chairman Mehmet Dalman:

Tim Hartley, chair of the Trust, said: “After the turmoil of the last week, the club needs stability and we are pleased that Malky Mackay is toremain as manager of Cardiff City. We also look forward to a dialogue now taking place between Mackay and Vincent Tan.

“Mr Tan should let the manager of the team get on with the job of keeping Cardiff City in the Premier League. I’m sure the strength of feeling shown by fans before and at the Liverpool game sent a clear message to him, as did the outspoken comments of many other managers and commentators throughout the UK.

“What this debacle has illustrated once again is that Mr Tan must engage in regular dialogue with supporter groups and fans generally. We will be making that point strongly when we meet Mr Tan on Saturday before the Sunderland game.

"One way he could build bridges with supporters would be to return the home playing kit to blue at the earliest opportunity.

"This episode highlights once again the need for strong supporter
engagement in football clubs at all levels. Our friends in the Swansea City Supporters’ Trust have an excellent working relationship with the senior management of their club and a supporter director sits on the board. We’d like to see Cardiff City move towards that in the future.

"We urge Cardiff City fans to join the Trust and strengthen further the voice of the fans

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:01 am

I really hope VT goes ahead with his meeting with the trust on December 28th, Be great to get some quotes from VT on his plans for the club directly from trust members and not via the press etc

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:39 am

We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:41 am

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings he didnt show for where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " there all rats following tans flute or face being a drowned one.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:43 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " :lol:

If we were all in the trust it would have much more clout.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:48 am

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " :lol:

If we were all in the trust it would have much more clout.

How would it the only clout us fans have rite now is at games in numbers, f**k me tan dont listen to anyone on the board let alone the average fan whos paying a fee to join a group. Do you really think there main issue will get a answers we want to hear which funny enough is what they have been trying to get an answer to for TWO years but told NO it will not change by the people sent.


Trust spokesman - Vincent on to our main issue can we have the blue shirt and badge back.

Tan - No

End of meeting

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:51 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " :lol:

If we were all in the trust it would have much more clout.

How would it the only clout us fans have rite now is at games in numbers, f**k me tan dont listen to anyone on the board let alone the average fan whos paying a fee to join a group. Do you really think there main issue will get a answers we want to hear...

Trust spokesman - Vincent on to our main issue can we have the blue shirt and badge back.

Tan - No

End of meeting

You come across has a very shortsighted person with an agenda.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:20 am

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " :lol:

If we were all in the trust it would have much more clout.

How would it the only clout us fans have rite now is at games in numbers, f**k me tan dont listen to anyone on the board let alone the average fan whos paying a fee to join a group. Do you really think there main issue will get a answers we want to hear...

Trust spokesman - Vincent on to our main issue can we have the blue shirt and badge back.

Tan - No

End of meeting

You come across has a very shortsighted person with an agenda.


I agree, this guy does seem to have an agenda. He's the most negative person on here.
Tan is already buckling against the pressure of fans, media & other big name managers etc.
Nows the time to kick on.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:32 am

Will the minutes of the trust meeting be available,will there be minutes taken.
If not then there should be for all fans to digest.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:34 am

redordead wrote:Will the minutes of the trust meeting be available,will there be minutes taken.
If not then there should be for all fans to digest.

Why all fans?

Only trust members surely

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:40 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
redordead wrote:Will the minutes of the trust meeting be available,will there be minutes taken.
If not then there should be for all fans to digest.

Why all fans?

Only trust members surely

ok trust members,that includes me then.
Do you know if minutes are taken of these sort of meetings ?

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:48 am

Gavin wrote:Trust statement in response to the comments yesterday of Cardiff City chairman Mehmet Dalman:

Tim Hartley, chair of the Trust, said: “After the turmoil of the last week, the club needs stability and we are pleased that Malky Mackay is toremain as manager of Cardiff City. We also look forward to a dialogue now taking place between Mackay and Vincent Tan.

“Mr Tan should let the manager of the team get on with the job of keeping Cardiff City in the Premier League. I’m sure the strength of feeling shown by fans before and at the Liverpool game sent a clear message to him, as did the outspoken comments of many other managers and commentators throughout the UK.

“What this debacle has illustrated once again is that Mr Tan must engage in regular dialogue with supporter groups and fans generally. We will be making that point strongly when we meet Mr Tan on Saturday before the Sunderland game.

"One way he could build bridges with supporters would be to return the home playing kit to blue at the earliest opportunity.

"This episode highlights once again the need for strong supporter
engagement in football clubs at all levels. Our friends in the Swansea City Supporters’ Trust have an excellent working relationship with the senior management of their club and a supporter director sits on the board. We’d like to see Cardiff City move towards that in the future.

"We urge Cardiff City fans to join the Trust and strengthen further the voice of the fans

How on earth can you talk to a man that is so disrespectful that he probably wont turn up at all? Sorry the time is never better than now to drive the rat off of our ship.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:50 am

Well done to the Trust.
Please push for our colours and badge back.
Dont be fobbed off.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:11 am

Buchanan's Exocet wrote:Well done to the Trust.
Please push for our colours and badge back.
Dont be fobbed off.

I just hope the trust tells tan exactly what the fans think and a return to blue is top of fans list.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:21 am

redordead wrote:
Buchanan's Exocet wrote:Well done to the Trust.
Please push for our colours and badge back.
Dont be fobbed off.

I just hope the trust tells tan exactly what the fans think and a return to blue is top of fans list.

I have a feeling that the rat knows that by now , half the bloody world told him on Saturday:?

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:21 am

redordead wrote:
Buchanan's Exocet wrote:Well done to the Trust.
Please push for our colours and badge back.
Dont be fobbed off.

I just hope the trust tells tan exactly what the fans think and a return to blue is top of fans list.

I have a feeling that the rat knows that by now , half the bloody world told him on Saturday:?

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:40 am

Im a member of the trust and I always post trust info on here as its released. That being said I encourage you all to join, strength in numbers via a recognised fans group.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:45 am

Gavin wrote:Im a member of the trust and I always post trust info on here as its released. That being said I encourage you all to join, strength in numbers via a recognised fans group.

Gav. With respect mate we have strength in numbers mate, we have a good percentage of the EPL managers on our side and the fans there on Saturday seemed to be doing quite well to me. They singlehandedly got 10s of thousand all around the World on our side, The trust have a class act to beat......................Dont waste it.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:45 am

Gavin wrote:Im a member of the trust and I always post trust info on here as its released. That being said I encourage you all to join, strength in numbers via a recognised fans group.


I'm also a Member and would encourage all fans to join on Boxing Day
For the poster above, yes, minutes of the meeting are released

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:48 am

Grumpyguts wrote:
Gavin wrote:Im a member of the trust and I always post trust info on here as its released. That being said I encourage you all to join, strength in numbers via a recognised fans group.

Gav. With respect mate we have strength in numbers mate, we have a good percentage of the EPL managers on our side and the fans there on Saturday seemed to be doing quite well to me. They singlehandedly got 10s of thousand all around the World on our side, The trust have a class act to beat......................Dont waste it.


But you still need dialogue (this weeks buzz word) to get things done, the crowds will drum up the support and push the point but surely a rep of the fans will have to lay out the fans demands/requests to VT?

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:55 am

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:We should all join the trust immediately. :ayatollah:

Yes because VT is going to listen to them thats even if he shows up like the last FOUR meetings where half the questions had no answers only " you will have to ask tan that one " :lol:

If we were all in the trust it would have much more clout.

How would it the only clout us fans have rite now is at games in numbers, f**k me tan dont listen to anyone on the board let alone the average fan whos paying a fee to join a group. Do you really think there main issue will get a answers we want to hear...

Trust spokesman - Vincent on to our main issue can we have the blue shirt and badge back.

Tan - No

End of meeting

You come across has a very shortsighted person with an agenda.

Yes i didnt go to specsavers sorry, the agenda is tan will not listen to nobody thats just it proven over the last two years odd and proven by certain directors who have even said at such meetings when tan sends them instead of him " He will do as he pleases with or without you"

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:59 am

Gavin wrote:
Grumpyguts wrote:
Gavin wrote:Im a member of the trust and I always post trust info on here as its released. That being said I encourage you all to join, strength in numbers via a recognised fans group.

Gav. With respect mate we have strength in numbers mate, we have a good percentage of the EPL managers on our side and the fans there on Saturday seemed to be doing quite well to me. They singlehandedly got 10s of thousand all around the World on our side, The trust have a class act to beat......................Dont waste it.


But you still need dialogue (this weeks buzz word) to get things done, the crowds will drum up the support and push the point but surely a rep of the fans will have to lay out the fans demands/requests to VT?
Tan doesn't do dialogue.

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:33 am

Grumpyguts wrote:[Sorry the time is never better than now to drive the rat off of our ship.


Give me strength. So he goes then what Grumpyguts :evil:

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:33 am

If Tan doesn't want to talk to / engage with the trust / fans thats his prerogative ! However , he did seem more than willing to engage with the fans after promo @ the CCS as I recall !Milked the adulation to death then yet @ Anfield Saturday he couldn't even look those same fans in the eye !Scuttled away at full-time in the fashion of all bullies ... like a coward tail between his legs !

Theres more than one way to communicate with him & his Malaysian sponsors ! The global audience that is available via Sky Sports was targeted for positive publicity by the Malaysian govt via VISIT MALAYSIA & co ! Already , the negative publicity his unhinged megalomania brings is reaching home !

Ideally , he'll think about his actions to date , he's no footy acumen for sure , but as a successful businessman he's gotta realise his current attitude, isn't gonna yield the returns he & his sponsors initially hoped for !

In addition to which , his global reputation is gonna take a hammering ! Here's Jonny ........

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:36 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
redordead wrote:Will the minutes of the trust meeting be available,will there be minutes taken.
If not then there should be for all fans to digest.

Why all fans?

Only trust members surely

The trust represents it's members this is true but what comes out of this meeting affects every Cardiff fan,the trust has a moral duty to every one of these fans to do the right thing.
All of Cardiff's fan base will be waiting with bated breath to see what comes of this meeting.
My message to the trust is your time has come don't let us down.
:malky:

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:38 am

redordead wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
redordead wrote:Will the minutes of the trust meeting be available,will there be minutes taken.
If not then there should be for all fans to digest.

Why all fans?

Only trust members surely

The trust represents it's members this is true but what comes out of this meeting affects every Cardiff fan,the trust has a moral duty to every one of these fans to do the right thing.
All of Cardiff's fan base will be waiting with bated breath to see what comes of this meeting.
My message to the trust is your time has come don't let us down.
:malky:


Good post

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:58 am

Can you join the trust online,if yes anyone got a link please

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:04 pm

earnieblue wrote:Can you join the trust online,if yes anyone got a link please


Yes mate, here http://www.ccfctrust.org/?page_id=223

Re: Trust responds to Chairman's statement

Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:20 pm

Thanks gavin :malky: gonna join up