Whitts

Anyone else think that Whitts did not want to know yesterday, he looks like a player who is very low on confidence and just didn't want the ball IMO. His deliveries are getting increasingly wayward, OK we haver had a goal from one or two of them but the majority of his crosses have been poor. Don't get me wrong when high in confidence he can play the part!

Don't think he likes going out wide anymore. Sterlings pace tore them both a new arse.

Much much better when he come inside. Medel needs whitts in front of him more than anyone, his simple passing game needs a playmaker.

Something has definitely happened to him, he's become a liability and needs to be dropped we cant have him on the pitch playing the way he is. Maybe if he gets dropped he'll realize that he needs to get his act together to get back into the starting line up plus he's not a wide man he is completely out of place

Didn't think he was that bad I just think some people need to realise we were playing 1st place in the premier league at anfield aswell

Another assist yesterday

Another assist yesterday

Ok fair enough, however his open play is not up to scratch at the moment he just didn't want the ball and when he got it he couldn't get rid of it quick enough. He is far from a bad player, however he is a player that is low in confidence at this moment in time.

Another assist yesterday

Ok fair enough, however his open play is not up to scratch at the moment he just didn't want the ball and when he got it he couldn't get rid of it quick enough. He is far from a bad player, however he is a player that is low in confidence at this moment in time.

You need to watch the second half again..... Malky's obsession with playing certain players out of position is the half the reason.

He is not a 442 left sided midfield player anymore.... especially when the right winger is lightening.

If he is not central midfield bench him

Didn't think he was that bad I just think some people need to realise we were playing 1st place in the premier league at anfield aswell

Didn't think he was that bad I just think some people need to realise we were playing 1st place in the premier league at anfield aswell

Regardless who we were playing, he was not interested. Surely going to Anfield should be enough to raise your game! Look at Nooney, he worked his socks off and is a far less experienced player than Whitts.

Didn't think he was that bad I just think some people need to realise we were playing 1st place in the premier league at anfield aswell

Regardless who we were playing, he was not interested. Surely going to Anfield should be enough to raise your game! Look at Nooney, he worked his socks off and is a far less experienced player than Whitts.

Did Noone touch the ball in the second half, and lost his man for thier 3rd

Weird but true in the fantasy football he is in 9th position, so he cant be playing all that bad.

Didn't think he was that bad I just think some people need to realise we were playing 1st place in the premier league at anfield aswell

Regardless who we were playing, he was not interested. Surely going to Anfield should be enough to raise your game! Look at Nooney, he worked his socks off and is a far less experienced player than Whitts.

Did Noone touch the ball in the second half, and lost his man for thier 3rd

You can apply to blame to a number of players for all three goals. We are getting off track of the OP.

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Playing wide in the championship is one thing, in the prem is another. Naive.

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Yes

4 assists now and 4 off the top which is relatively good.

We aren't scoring goals in open play much and all our likely goals are from set pieces, which he is brilliant at delivering.

People usually slate his set pieces, we can't score off them all.

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Yes

I really think thats stretching it! You or I could have taken that corner; and maybe 88% of the crowd too. The team is crying out for flair not journeymen.

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Yes

I really think thats stretching it! You or I could have taken that corner; and maybe 88% of the crowd too. The team is crying out for flair not journeymen.

Are you kidding me?

Taking a corner is one thing but delivering it to the quality he does is another thing.

You know nothing on Football if you honestly believe that.

Well that's your opinion and that's fine by me but if you really set so much store by a professional footballer taking a corner we obviously will never agree. If you consider that impressive we are miles apart. I know for a fact over 95% of players could achieve it; even Ben Turner more often than not! We're in the Premier League now, it demands a little more than kicking a corner to gain plaudits.

Well that's your opinion and that's fine by me but if you really set so much store by a professional footballer taking a corner we obviously will never agree. If you consider that impressive we are miles apart. I know for a fact over 95% of players could achieve it; even Ben Turner more often than not! We're in the Premier League now, it demands a little more than kicking a corner to gain plaudits.

It's not just corners, it's free kicks and corners and the odd goal that comes with it, also remembering he is a very good penalty taker.

It takes a lot of practice and quite a bit of time to get to a level of delivering a set piece, he puts it in areas that players like Soldado would dream of for Spurs.

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Yes

I really think thats stretching it! You or I could have taken that corner; and maybe 88% of the crowd too. The team is crying out for flair not journeymen.

Get a grip

Well that's your opinion and that's fine by me but if you really set so much store by a professional footballer taking a corner we obviously will never agree. If you consider that impressive we are miles apart. I know for a fact over 95% of players could achieve it; even Ben Turner more often than not! We're in the Premier League now, it demands a little more than kicking a corner to gain plaudits.

It's not just corners, it's free kicks and corners and the odd goal that comes with it, also remembering he is a very good penalty taker.

It takes a lot of practice and quite a bit of time to get to a level of delivering a set piece, he puts it in areas that players like Soldado would dream of for Spurs.

If thats the case it probably explains why he's so poor. Maybe he should be practicing something else. I can assure you there is no great skill in delivering a corner or free kick: I will seriously bet you could get us a load of goals if you took them for us. The trajectory of a corner does not allow for huge errors of placement unless you might be totally inept. On the law of averages some will connect. The skill is getting into those positions to score. And on penalties by the way, I would bet if you took ten blindfolded there would be more than one would get into the net.

Well that's your opinion and that's fine by me but if you really set so much store by a professional footballer taking a corner we obviously will never agree. If you consider that impressive we are miles apart. I know for a fact over 95% of players could achieve it; even Ben Turner more often than not! We're in the Premier League now, it demands a little more than kicking a corner to gain plaudits.

It's not just corners, it's free kicks and corners and the odd goal that comes with it, also remembering he is a very good penalty taker.

It takes a lot of practice and quite a bit of time to get to a level of delivering a set piece, he puts it in areas that players like Soldado would dream of for Spurs.

If thats the case it probably explains why he's so poor. Maybe he should be practicing something else. I can assure you there is no great skill in delivering a corner or free kick: I will seriously bet you could get us a load of goals if you took them for us. The trajectory of a corner does not allow for huge errors of placement unless you might be totally inept. On the law of averages some will connect. The skill is getting into those positions to score. And on penalties by the way, I would bet if you took ten blindfolded there would be more than one would get into the net.

There is no skill in free kicks yet teams only have one main player who takes them because they can score of them and provide goals with them.

Look at the skill that is required to take a free kick, look at players like Ronaldo who has a special technique on how to hit the ball and take a free kick.. also Bale is growing rapidly good with his, Yaya Toure, etc.

Well that's your opinion and that's fine by me but if you really set so much store by a professional footballer taking a corner we obviously will never agree. If you consider that impressive we are miles apart. I know for a fact over 95% of players could achieve it; even Ben Turner more often than not! We're in the Premier League now, it demands a little more than kicking a corner to gain plaudits.

It's not just corners, it's free kicks and corners and the odd goal that comes with it, also remembering he is a very good penalty taker.

It takes a lot of practice and quite a bit of time to get to a level of delivering a set piece, he puts it in areas that players like Soldado would dream of for Spurs.

If thats the case it probably explains why he's so poor. Maybe he should be practicing something else. I can assure you there is no great skill in delivering a corner or free kick: I will seriously bet you could get us a load of goals if you took them for us. The trajectory of a corner does not allow for huge errors of placement unless you might be totally inept. On the law of averages some will connect. The skill is getting into those positions to score. And on penalties by the way, I would bet if you took ten blindfolded there would be more than one would get into the net.

There is no skill in free kicks yet teams only have one main player who takes them because they can score of them and provide goals with them.

Look at the skill that is required to take a free kick, look at players like Ronaldo who has a special technique on how to hit the ball and take a free kick.. also Bale is growing rapidly good with his, Yaya Toure, etc.

I seem to be fighting on two fronts with you here lol! I do agree certain types of free kick do require great skill. The types where a shot is made at goal. Whitts used to do that at one time, and I agree with great skill. But when was the last time you saw him do it? Not for a long time! You mentioned class acts like Ronaldo, Bale and Toure but I'm sure you're not comparing Whittingham to them by any stretch. These may well be players who can deliver great free kicks but they contribute hugely to the general play. Whittingham, by contrast, offers little else and in my opinion is taking the place of good players for us, like Kim for example.

Anyway its been nice bantering with you; I'm sure we'll never agree. gotta go to bed now. Keep your chin up for a win Thursday

Will do. It has be nice debating with you

Anyone else think that Whitts did not want to know yesterday, he looks like a player who is very low on confidence and just didn't want the ball IMO. His deliveries are getting increasingly wayward, OK we haver had a goal from one or two of them but the majority of his crosses have been poor. Don't get me wrong when high in confidence he can play the part!

Am I allowed to say the manager asks him to play too deep... or is is because the rebrand ?

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Is that a serious question?

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Is that a serious question?

Absolutely! Stop and think about it for a minute. I think you would have him on the pitch for his set pieces. This aint American Football you know

Another assist yesterday

Wasn't it just a corner or free kick again? Does that really qualify as an assist?

Is that a serious question?

Absolutely! Stop and think about it for a minute. I think you would have him on the pitch for his set pieces. This aint American Football you know

Of course it qualifys as an assist, Do you know anything about football?