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Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:47 pm

So how did you think he did today? i thought that he did well when he came on, held the ball up well and chased down everything, also could have had a chance if Craig noone played him in but decided to go for goal :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:52 pm

Did well in the limited time. Holds the ball up well, looks quick and brought others into play

I think he'll get more game time soon

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:54 pm

Much Much better than Ode

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:55 pm

CityGent wrote:Did well in the limited time. Holds the ball up well, looks quick and brought others into play

I think he'll get more game time soon


My thoughts exactly. Loved it when the first thing he did when he came on was go flying into a liverpool player and win the header. :lol: :malky:

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:59 pm

Super Kev wrote:
CityGent wrote:Did well in the limited time. Holds the ball up well, looks quick and brought others into play

I think he'll get more game time soon


My thoughts exactly. Loved it when the first thing he did when he came on was go flying into a liverpool player and win the header. :lol: :malky:


He is going to be a great player in my opinion.

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:02 pm

Malky start him, give him 60 mins..... Looked a handful

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:03 pm

Grumpyguts wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
CityGent wrote:Did well in the limited time. Holds the ball up well, looks quick and brought others into play

I think he'll get more game time soon


My thoughts exactly. Loved it when the first thing he did when he came on was go flying into a liverpool player and win the header. :lol: :malky:


He is going to be a great player in my opinion.


Agreed. Has all the attributes to do the business in the PL

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:39 pm

Won a few headers and linked up well, proved he has a turn of pace and can up up ground well when harrassing the opposition.

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:41 pm

Looks a lot better than PO. Maybe this could be a turning point with him. I hope so

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:15 pm

One for the future isn't he???? Not ready yet!

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:21 pm

Natman Blue wrote:One for the future isn't he???? Not ready yet!


If he's not ready yet I can't wait to see what he's like when he is ready!

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:24 pm

He look just what we needed hold the ball up well

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:26 pm

wez1927 wrote:He look just what we needed hold the ball up well


I agree, looks when heck of a player already. But Malky reckons he's one for the future and for me I can't fathom why we spent £8m on a striker for our first season in the BPL who isn't ready!

Personally I think he's a better option that what we currently already play up front.

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:15 pm

He looks desperate to be involved and did more in the first few minutes he came on than PO did in 60!

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:30 pm

Looks a real handful to me. I want to see MORE of him.

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:32 pm

Valley Lad wrote:He looks desperate to be involved and did more in the first few minutes he came on than PO did in 60!


This

Re: Cornelius??

Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:34 pm

think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:39 am

Didn't do nothing wrong and was keen to get involved and a grab a 2nd goal which would get us in a small chance of getting back into with a draw.

Really fast movement when running into the box.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:43 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

Was starting to think I was the only one that could see this. Malky's comments are designed to protect the player.

Let the manager manage, while he's still manager.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:57 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

I think your spot on, the trouble is that Tan understands f...all about football and as he's not talking to Malky so he wouldn't have a clue. It's probably down to Tan's ignorance of football that little comments like that have turned him off Malky.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:18 am

Odemwingie was gash yesterday, while Cornelius looked hungry and desperate to be involved. Would like to see Malky start him against Southampton and Sunderland. Especially, with Campbell as they opened up Liverpool's defence well a few times when on the pitch together.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:04 am

PtB wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

Was starting to think I was the only one that could see this. Malky's comments are designed to protect the player.

Let the manager manage, while he's still manager.


I'm not sure I agree with you totally on this one. In my opinion this kid is more than we need already; I think he's gonna be a big big player for us this season and likely, many more. However I think this is not a case of letting Malky manage; on the contrary, I think this is a case for Malky listening to the fans, some of whom have been spot on on this: ''Malky, get up to speed and put your faith in the boy, he's good and he'll do the business for us - play him from the start, disabuse yourself of this Odemwingie nonsense, back the boy and he'll deliver the goods'' At the same time stop putting your faith in has beens like Whittingham etc and start using the talent we already have at our disposal i.e. Kim and Campbell more creatively and effectively!

My own opinion for what its worth? If Corny was indeed a Malky/Moody signing, then Malky started to doubt his initial Judgement and started to doubt the player's ability for some reason. Rather than trying to protect the boy he inadvisedly tried to protect himself by playing the ''one for the future card'': this might have been the tipping point for Tan during a fractured relationship between the two and caused the horrendous riposte of this last week.

Don't read any anti Malky into this; far from it. I'm essentially anti Tan; he is the villain of the piece. I want Malky to stay and for many years to come. He has fantastic man management ability, his leadership is akin to General Patton, he is dignified, professional and from what I can see a thoroughbly likeable man who doesn't deserve the awful treatment he's receiving from a crackpot dictator. I truly believe, one day, he will become one of the giants of the game in the mould of Fergie and the like. However, for now his obvious weak departments are tactics, team selection and player assessment, coupled with maybe a little naivety in terms of press releases. Nevertheless, he's still young and much of this can be learned and I think he could really benefit now from the guidance of someone in the capacity of Director of Football who could teach him something about his weaker areas. I think he'll come through with flying colours!

I truly hope Malky stays but for the next two home games a bit of advice to him. ''Malky, Kick on with what you've learned from the Liverpool game: ditch the dross, give the fans what they want, and play young Corny for TWO FULL GAMES. He might well vindicate your initial judgment and become a revelation! :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:47 am

A lot of people last week on here were thinking whether he was going to be a flop, I always gave him my backing and yeah, START HIM BOXING DAY PLEASE!

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:51 am

Thought he looked OK, not really seem him do much in the box yet but he has had limited time.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:58 am

I would start Cornelius on boxing day with campbell along side him, noone out on the wing providing the crosses and mutch, medel and kim bo making up the midfield along with our usual back four. :thumbup:

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:04 am

I agree with the calls to start him on Boxing Day. I'd have gone with yesterday's lineup, but with Campbell up front and Cornelius playing just in front of Mutch/behind Campbell.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:11 am

City Slicker wrote:
PtB wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

Was starting to think I was the only one that could see this. Malky's comments are designed to protect the player.

Let the manager manage, while he's still manager.


I'm not sure I agree with you totally on this one. In my opinion this kid is more than we need already; I think he's gonna be a big big player for us this season and likely, many more. However I think this is not a case of letting Malky manage; on the contrary, I think this is a case for Malky listening to the fans, some of whom have been spot on on this: ''Malky, get up to speed and put your faith in the boy, he's good and he'll do the business for us - play him from the start, disabuse yourself of this Odemwingie nonsense, back the boy and he'll deliver the goods'' At the same time stop putting your faith in has beens like Whittingham etc and start using the talent we already have at our disposal i.e. Kim and Campbell more creatively and effectively!

My own opinion for what its worth? If Corny was indeed a Malky/Moody signing, then Malky started to doubt his initial Judgement and started to doubt the player's ability for some reason. Rather than trying to protect the boy he inadvisedly tried to protect himself by playing the ''one for the future card'': this might have been the tipping point for Tan during a fractured relationship between the two and caused the horrendous riposte of this last week.

Don't read any anti Malky into this; far from it. I'm essentially anti Tan; he is the villain of the piece. I want Malky to stay and for many years to come. He has fantastic man management ability, his leadership is akin to General Patton, he is dignified, professional and from what I can see a thoroughbly likeable man who doesn't deserve the awful treatment he's receiving from a crackpot dictator. I truly believe, one day, he will become one of the giants of the game in the mould of Fergie and the like. However, for now his obvious weak departments are tactics, team selection and player assessment, coupled with maybe a little naivety in terms of press releases. Nevertheless, he's still young and much of this can be learned and I think he could really benefit now from the guidance of someone in the capacity of Director of Football who could teach him something about his weaker areas. I think he'll come through with flying colours!

I truly hope Malky stays but for the next two home games a bit of advice to him. ''Malky, Kick on with what you've learned from the Liverpool game: ditch the dross, give the fans what they want, and play young Corny for TWO FULL GAMES. He might well vindicate your initial judgment and become a revelation! :malky: :malky: :malky:


Who would you have for DoF.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:22 pm

Got to agree Matt D,Campbell and Cornelius upfront, Mutch, Whitts, Noone and Medel in Midfield.
Lets attack from the off and not just wait for the counter. Can't see two upfront being picked though :ayatollah:

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:37 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
PtB wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:think the 'one for the future' line was to take some of the pressure of they guy! you don't spend £8m on a player you want to use in 2 years, we're not Man United :lol:

Was starting to think I was the only one that could see this. Malky's comments are designed to protect the player.

Let the manager manage, while he's still manager.


I'm not sure I agree with you totally on this one. In my opinion this kid is more than we need already; I think he's gonna be a big big player for us this season and likely, many more. However I think this is not a case of letting Malky manage; on the contrary, I think this is a case for Malky listening to the fans, some of whom have been spot on on this: ''Malky, get up to speed and put your faith in the boy, he's good and he'll do the business for us - play him from the start, disabuse yourself of this Odemwingie nonsense, back the boy and he'll deliver the goods'' At the same time stop putting your faith in has beens like Whittingham etc and start using the talent we already have at our disposal i.e. Kim and Campbell more creatively and effectively!

Difficult to say precisely because a few could fit the bill but for me Hoddle would be tasty

My own opinion for what its worth? If Corny was indeed a Malky/Moody signing, then Malky started to doubt his initial Judgement and started to doubt the player's ability for some reason. Rather than trying to protect the boy he inadvisedly tried to protect himself by playing the ''one for the future card'': this might have been the tipping point for Tan during a fractured relationship between the two and caused the horrendous riposte of this last week.

Don't read any anti Malky into this; far from it. I'm essentially anti Tan; he is the villain of the piece. I want Malky to stay and for many years to come. He has fantastic man management ability, his leadership is akin to General Patton, he is dignified, professional and from what I can see a thoroughbly likeable man who doesn't deserve the awful treatment he's receiving from a crackpot dictator. I truly believe, one day, he will become one of the giants of the game in the mould of Fergie and the like. However, for now his obvious weak departments are tactics, team selection and player assessment, coupled with maybe a little naivety in terms of press releases. Nevertheless, he's still young and much of this can be learned and I think he could really benefit now from the guidance of someone in the capacity of Director of Football who could teach him something about his weaker areas. I think he'll come through with flying colours!

I truly hope Malky stays but for the next two home games a bit of advice to him. ''Malky, Kick on with what you've learned from the Liverpool game: ditch the dross, give the fans what they want, and play young Corny for TWO FULL GAMES. He might well vindicate your initial judgment and become a revelation! :malky: :malky: :malky:


Who would you have for DoF.

Re: Cornelius??

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:41 pm

Watching the game on TV, I thought he did pretty well considering the amount of time he was on the pitch. Certainly made a bigger impact than in any other previous game.

Would love to see him get more game time. :ayatollah: