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ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:45 am

something was not right about this overspend......i cant believe that either malky and co went over budget but also that tan knew he had overspent....something is not adding up in my opinion

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:54 am

krabb wrote:something is not adding up in my opinion


Well the budget didnt add up thats for sure!!!

We had the budget for a BMW and end up spending Bentley money on a Ford Focus.

or in the case of John Brayford we had the money to buy a little run around and spent it on a bus fair!!!

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:56 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
krabb wrote:something is not adding up in my opinion


Well the budget didnt add up thats for sure!!!

We had the budget for a BMW and end up spending Bentley money on a Ford Focus.

or in the case of John Brayford we had the money to buy a little run around and spent it on a bus fair!!!

will we ever get the truth...????

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:57 am

Although Malky has the final say on who he brings to the club, he wouldnt have been the money man. Some official at the club would have had to sign the contract with the other club. And the figures in terms of transfer fees, agent fees etc should have been looked at by a lawyer who works for the club, and the chairman/ceo or someone on the board.

So in that respect, i am confused by the overspend, as it really should be the fault of someone else at the club AS WELL as the manager.

If (for example) Simon Lim was handling club affairs with Tan at home, he should have some explaining to do as well surely?

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:58 am

If you look at what has been happening over the past few weeks, it truly is remarkable change of historical behaviour from some quarters, I mean:

1. Pre Palace game, Ian Moody was on Sky Sports every other day - never seen him before he had the boot (the same Ian Moody that is Malky's best buddy)
2. Malky admits record signing Cornelius is not ready - the same Cornelius that he suggested was being "tracked" by Eurpoe's elite clubs when he signed him.
3. Craig Bellamy has disappeared off the face of the earth, yet is well enough for a drink or two with mates in town.
4. Malky, for the very first time, mentions he wants to sign 3 players in a January transfer window that he never has liked....

Whilst all of the above has happened, the owner of our great football club has started work on our stadium, held boardroom talks to convert debt to equity and kept a silent stance - that was until the final insult came to public over the weekend.

Is this a manager under pressure, that's "wasted" a lot of financial faith in him over the summer trying to engineer a move to a different club whilst his stock is as a "Premiership Manager" or a owner who has finally decided enough is enough with these political games?

I think both, and, I for one, just want what's best for MY first love - Cardiff City.

Malky has officially done it for me now - drab football, insistence on playing his "mates" in front of better players, wasting money, playing a PR game at expense of club and sheer arrogance to acknowledge the fact he's been the heaviest supported manager (financially) from a promoted club in history.

With a heavy heart - Malky Out!

Bluebirds first and foremost - not arrogance and ego from ALL involved above. :ayatollah:

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:23 am

Some people have such short memories. We won the Championship last season at a canter and we didn't even have the best squad in the division. Yes, we had some quality but we realistically should have been battling for the 2nd automatic promotion place and been happy with the playoffs.

Yes, we did spend a lot of money in the summer but most of it was on arguably two of our best players this season in the form of Medel and Caulker. How people can say Malky wasted money when we brought them in is difficult to understand? Yes, we spent £8m on Cornelius but he got injured early on. An injury, I should add, that has broken the careers of some players. Just look at Dean Ashton. Rushed back and it eventually meant his ankle muscle wore away forcing him to retire.

If Malky says Cornelius isn't ready then he isn't ready. People questioned Malky's calls on Kimbo and Velikonja. Malky got both right. He bled Kimbo into the team well and didn't play Velikonja because Velikonja was gash. Cornelius is still very young so Malky isn't keen to expose him too early. What's a few more weeks? We won on Saturday didn't we?!

Some could argue I do have bias towards Malky but is it really that bad? The man is an upstanding man of both integrity and ability. He's made mistakes but he always learns from them. We're not playing great football at the moment because we can't. We're not packed with the talent that other clubs have. That's how tough cutting your teeth in the Premier League is these days. The success stories of Swansea and Norwich are a rarity. The reality is that you have to spend big, work hard and have some luck if you're to make the leap from Championship to the Premier League and survive.

This season was always going to be about survival. Malky is currently doing that with us. we have half a dozen teams below us with half of them we didn't even think we'd be near at this stage of the season. Get some perspective. Tan is impatient and wants results now. That doesn't work in football.

One question to those wanting Malky out. Who would you replace him with? Who realistically would come in and stand a better chance of keeping us up than Malky now?

I tell you now, if come the last day of the season and we need a win at home against Chelsea, Malky is the one manager I believe could get that win for us.

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:39 am

Llan1927 wrote:If you look at what has been happening over the past few weeks, it truly is remarkable change of historical behaviour from some quarters, I mean:

1. Pre Palace game, Ian Moody was on Sky Sports every other day - never seen him before he had the boot (the same Ian Moody that is Malky's best buddy)
2. Malky admits record signing Cornelius is not ready - the same Cornelius that he suggested was being "tracked" by Eurpoe's elite clubs when he signed him.
3. Craig Bellamy has disappeared off the face of the earth, yet is well enough for a drink or two with mates in town.
4. Malky, for the very first time, mentions he wants to sign 3 players in a January transfer window that he never has liked....

Whilst all of the above has happened, the owner of our great football club has started work on our stadium, held boardroom talks to convert debt to equity and kept a silent stance - that was until the final insult came to public over the weekend.

Is this a manager under pressure, that's "wasted" a lot of financial faith in him over the summer trying to engineer a move to a different club whilst his stock is as a "Premiership Manager" or a owner who has finally decided enough is enough with these political games?

I think both, and, I for one, just want what's best for MY first love - Cardiff City.

Malky has officially done it for me now - drab football, insistence on playing his "mates" in front of better players, wasting money, playing a PR game at expense of club and sheer arrogance to acknowledge the fact he's been the heaviest supported manager (financially) from a promoted club in history.

With a heavy heart - Malky Out!

Bluebirds first and foremost - not arrogance and ego from ALL involved above. :ayatollah:


Absolutely 1st Class post. Agreed. It's a shame it's come to this, and while much of what Tan says and does on the football front doesn't always make sense, financially and business-wise he has been diligent and effective behind the scenes (and I still think that the good, like the Thanks A Million Fund is way more important than the colour of a shirt). Honestly, whenever I hear Malky speak he seems to always be contradicting statements he's made before.

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:43 am

He could have 2 new signings in January for not if he gets Conway and Mason back, neither given a chance to prove if they are up to Premier standards, but I'm pretty sure they'd bust a gut to be given the opportunity. Malky with his favourites is getting as bad as Dave Jones, and the football's as dire as well.

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:47 pm

Zabier wrote:Some people have such short memories. We won the Championship last season at a canter and we didn't even have the best squad in the division. Yes, we had some quality but we realistically should have been battling for the 2nd automatic promotion place and been happy with the playoffs.

Yes, we did spend a lot of money in the summer but most of it was on arguably two of our best players this season in the form of Medel and Caulker. How people can say Malky wasted money when we brought them in is difficult to understand? Yes, we spent £8m on Cornelius but he got injured early on. An injury, I should add, that has broken the careers of some players. Just look at Dean Ashton. Rushed back and it eventually meant his ankle muscle wore away forcing him to retire.

If Malky says Cornelius isn't ready then he isn't ready. People questioned Malky's calls on Kimbo and Velikonja. Malky got both right. He bled Kimbo into the team well and didn't play Velikonja because Velikonja was gash. Cornelius is still very young so Malky isn't keen to expose him too early. What's a few more weeks? We won on Saturday didn't we?!

Some could argue I do have bias towards Malky but is it really that bad? The man is an upstanding man of both integrity and ability. He's made mistakes but he always learns from them. We're not playing great football at the moment because we can't. We're not packed with the talent that other clubs have. That's how tough cutting your teeth in the Premier League is these days. The success stories of Swansea and Norwich are a rarity. The reality is that you have to spend big, work hard and have some luck if you're to make the leap from Championship to the Premier League and survive.

This season was always going to be about survival. Malky is currently doing that with us. we have half a dozen teams below us with half of them we didn't even think we'd be near at this stage of the season. Get some perspective. Tan is impatient and wants results now. That doesn't work in football.

One question to those wanting Malky out. Who would you replace him with? Who realistically would come in and stand a better chance of keeping us up than Malky now?

I tell you now, if come the last day of the season and we need a win at home against Chelsea, Malky is the one manager I believe could get that win for us.

i dont think this topic is aimed at getting malky out,and i dont think thats what most want.....just the fact that something is very not good down cardiff city.... :ayatollah:

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:58 pm

This is an excellent post and although I don't fully agree or want Malky out, you do make a great point and show a different point of view :thumbup:

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:04 pm

Llan1927 wrote:If you look at what has been happening over the past few weeks, it truly is remarkable change of historical behaviour from some quarters, I mean:

1. Pre Palace game, Ian Moody was on Sky Sports every other day - never seen him before he had the boot (the same Ian Moody that is Malky's best buddy)
2. Malky admits record signing Cornelius is not ready - the same Cornelius that he suggested was being "tracked" by Eurpoe's elite clubs when he signed him.
3. Craig Bellamy has disappeared off the face of the earth, yet is well enough for a drink or two with mates in town.
4. Malky, for the very first time, mentions he wants to sign 3 players in a January transfer window that he never has liked....

Whilst all of the above has happened, the owner of our great football club has started work on our stadium, held boardroom talks to convert debt to equity and kept a silent stance - that was until the final insult came to public over the weekend.

Is this a manager under pressure, that's "wasted" a lot of financial faith in him over the summer trying to engineer a move to a different club whilst his stock is as a "Premiership Manager" or a owner who has finally decided enough is enough with these political games?

I think both, and, I for one, just want what's best for MY first love - Cardiff City.

Malky has officially done it for me now - drab football, insistence on playing his "mates" in front of better players, wasting money, playing a PR game at expense of club and sheer arrogance to acknowledge the fact he's been the heaviest supported manager (financially) from a promoted club in history.

With a heavy heart - Malky Out!

Bluebirds first and foremost - not arrogance and ego from ALL involved above. :ayatollah:


This is an excellent post and although I don't fully agree or want Malky out, you do make a great point and show a different point of view :thumbup:

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:39 am

Llan1927 wrote:If you look at what has been happening over the past few weeks, it truly is remarkable change of historical behaviour from some quarters, I mean:

1. Pre Palace game, Ian Moody was on Sky Sports every other day - never seen him before he had the boot (the same Ian Moody that is Malky's best buddy)
2. Malky admits record signing Cornelius is not ready - the same Cornelius that he suggested was being "tracked" by Eurpoe's elite clubs when he signed him.
3. Craig Bellamy has disappeared off the face of the earth, yet is well enough for a drink or two with mates in town.
4. Malky, for the very first time, mentions he wants to sign 3 players in a January transfer window that he never has liked....

Whilst all of the above has happened, the owner of our great football club has started work on our stadium, held boardroom talks to convert debt to equity and kept a silent stance - that was until the final insult came to public over the weekend.

Is this a manager under pressure, that's "wasted" a lot of financial faith in him over the summer trying to engineer a move to a different club whilst his stock is as a "Premiership Manager" or a owner who has finally decided enough is enough with these political games?

I think both, and, I for one, just want what's best for MY first love - Cardiff City.

Malky has officially done it for me now - drab football, insistence on playing his "mates" in front of better players, wasting money, playing a PR game at expense of club and sheer arrogance to acknowledge the fact he's been the heaviest supported manager (financially) from a promoted club in history.

With a heavy heart - Malky Out!

Bluebirds first and foremost - not arrogance and ego from ALL involved above. :ayatollah:


No mention of tan? :roll:

Re: ian moody sacking and now all this with malky

Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:26 am

Llan1927 wrote:If you look at what has been happening over the past few weeks, it truly is remarkable change of historical behaviour from some quarters, I mean:

1. Pre Palace game, Ian Moody was on Sky Sports every other day - never seen him before he had the boot (the same Ian Moody that is Malky's best buddy)
2. Malky admits record signing Cornelius is not ready - the same Cornelius that he suggested was being "tracked" by Eurpoe's elite clubs when he signed him.
3. Craig Bellamy has disappeared off the face of the earth, yet is well enough for a drink or two with mates in town.
4. Malky, for the very first time, mentions he wants to sign 3 players in a January transfer window that he never has liked....

Whilst all of the above has happened, the owner of our great football club has started work on our stadium, held boardroom talks to convert debt to equity and kept a silent stance - that was until the final insult came to public over the weekend.

Is this a manager under pressure, that's "wasted" a lot of financial faith in him over the summer trying to engineer a move to a different club whilst his stock is as a "Premiership Manager" or a owner who has finally decided enough is enough with these political games?

I think both, and, I for one, just want what's best for MY first love - Cardiff City.

Malky has officially done it for me now - drab football, insistence on playing his "mates" in front of better players, wasting money, playing a PR game at expense of club and sheer arrogance to acknowledge the fact he's been the heaviest supported manager (financially) from a promoted club in history.

With a heavy heart - Malky Out!

Bluebirds first and foremost - not arrogance and ego from ALL involved above. :ayatollah:

Can't argue with that. :ayatollah: