Malky is making himself - and the club - look foolish

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

Look out here comes Shearer or some other big name but a crap manager!!!

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

What manager comes out and openly highlights the amount of business they want to do in January WITHOUT talking to their board? Malky knew there was no money for January and he knew this would provoke a reaction. Tan is right on this one. Malky is wrong.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

What manager comes out and openly highlights the amount of business they want to do in January WITHOUT talking to their board? Malky knew there was no money for January and he knew this would provoke a reaction. Tan is right on this one. Malky is wrong.

its a good point.....always lots of rumours linking players to clubs.. but you dont see a MANAGER come out with this 3 players lark......apart from anything else it jerks prices up...coupled with the acorn remarks it looks like Malky is playing his own game..

Alex Ferguson signed dummies, bebe, veron, powell,zaha,doesn't make you a bad manager

No it doesn't. But United always played good football and won trophies. So in large, he must have been making more good signings than bad. 1/3 of our budget on a striker that's "not ready" in lieu of one that is, the team struggling for goals and wins, then turning around and asking for ANOTHER striker - that is questionable management? I don't remember Fergie (or anyone else) ever doing that.

Some fans must be really new ones or have short memories, Malky is one of the best managers CCFC has ever had, perhaps we would be better off in the championship cos' mark my words, someone like shearer or another big name are going to see us there! there is an old saying
"You don't know what you've got till it's gone"

Tan is the only one making us look foolish. There is not a manager currently available who would be capable of getting any more effort out of our current squad.

Tan is the only one making us look foolish. There is not a manager currently available who would be capable of getting any more effort out of our current squad.

But there is a manager getting more points (and therefore I would assume, more effort) out of a squad with less overall quality, AND having spent less money: Steve Bruce at Hull (a team that have beaten both form-teams in Liverpool and Newcastle relatively recently) and are 2 points above us and spent less than half our budget. How'd you square that then?

Very good post because it rings true and realistic, but I would not be surprised of ulterior under currents on both sides, the last few weeks its been as clear as daylight that the problem with Malky and Mr Tan has been like a festering abscess and with these developments don't be surprised when it ruptures..........

Very good post because it rings true and realistic, but I would not be surprised of ulterior under currents on both sides, the last few weeks its been as clear as daylight that the problem with Malky and Mr Tan has been like a festering abscess and with these developments don't be surprised when it ruptures..........

Completely agree. Both parties engaged in a Mexican stand-off. It's obvious what's going on. Malky has NEVER liked the January transfer window, he has said so before, we rarely ever do business in it yet this week he's talking to the media about how he's going to make three transfers in January. It's a game between to men with big egos.

Listen, Malky said he'd like three players but he'd need to speak to those up above and take the lead from there. That is not a shocking thing to say, it's realistic.

However, to be publicly slammed and accused of overspending by £15million by the two men in charge of the money is very wrong. Fans have every right to question the football and the signings but it's those upstairs who give the signings & amounts involved the go ahead.

Does anybody actually believe the manager overspent by £15 million and nobody noticed? If they do then that says far more about VT & Lim than it does about Mackay.

[quote="PtB"]Listen, Malky said he'd like three players but he'd need to speak to those up above and take the lead from there. That is not a shocking thing to say, it's realistic.

However, to be publicly slammed and accused of overspending by £15million by the two men in charge of the money is very wrong. Fans have every right to question the football and the signings but it's those upstairs who give the signings & amounts involved the go ahead.

Does anybody actually believe the manager overspent by £15 million and nobody noticed? If they do then that says far more about VT & Lim than it does about Mackay.[/quote

When Iain Moody was sacked the uproar was that we didn't have "football men at boardroom level". So if we didn't have them then, we sure as hell didn't have them in the summer. Of course the board and Lim and Tan signed off on these signings - off the back of Moody and Mackay's suggestions as to what would be needed to keep us in the Premier League.

The problems, in my opinion, have come from those same people having to see Brayford nowhere near the first-team squad, Fillip Kiss (who became a permanent signing 18 months earlier) stuck in with DVP team and Cornelius as "not ready" and "one for the future". You can't have it all ways, if you say "they're not football men" when they get things wrong then you have to assume this situation to be just as much a lack of footballing insight as any other.

IMO clubs shouldn't air their dirty washing in public..matters like these should be sorted out in private like grown ups do.

Agree CF64,but we are talking about Cardiff City here! When has any owner/chairman past and present included,done their business in a quiet and proffesional manner?have to say that this stand off is of no benefit to CCFC.Time to get all our loanees back! Its backs to the wall time!.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

What manager comes out and openly highlights the amount of business they want to do in January WITHOUT talking to their board? Malky knew there was no money for January and he knew this would provoke a reaction. Tan is right on this one. Malky is wrong.

He did notify the board at Lims Request last week Lim asked MM for a list of his requirements so he could give them to the Chairman. If he didnt have a list he would NOT be doing his job. Brighten up a bit.

Very good post because it rings true and realistic, but I would not be surprised of ulterior under currents on both sides, the last few weeks its been as clear as daylight that the problem with Malky and Mr Tan has been like a festering abscess and with these developments don't be surprised when it ruptures..........

Bloody awful post because it is totally inaccurate.

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Oh well, we're sorted then, aren't we? Tan knows where to look for the next manager.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

What manager comes out and openly highlights the amount of business they want to do in January WITHOUT talking to their board? Malky knew there was no money for January and he knew this would provoke a reaction. Tan is right on this one. Malky is wrong.

He did notify the board at Lims Request last week Lim asked MM for a list of his requirements so he could give them to the Chairman. If he didnt have a list he would NOT be doing his job. Smarten up.

Really?! Don't remember the board saying that he handed them a list. And if he'd already done that why did he feel the need to mention to the press what positions he wanted to fill if the board already knew? Think you need to brighten up a bit. Think about it logically. Also some sports writers tend to agree with the view I originally posted:

"Cardiff City right to be angry with Malky Mackay"

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the ... 25187.html

I don't like the rebrand and I'm not Tan's biggest fan either (though I'll admit he's dome some good for the club) but that doesn't mean I have to gloss over Malky's limitations and his mistakes. Sack up and stop acting like a schoolgirl with a crush.

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Man you are so inaccurate and obviously ill informed. We really need fans like you....NOT . Unless you are not really a fan.

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Man you are so inaccurate and obviously ill informed. We really need fans like you....NOT . Unless you are not really a fan.

Yet you fail to point out exactly HOW I am misinformed. You said Malky DID hand a list of transfer targets to the board, now unless you are Malky or you are a member of the board there is NO possible way that you can be privy to such information. So to recap, what you are saying is purely speculative (Definition of Speculative: a statement based on conjecture rather than knowledge). I simply agreed with an above poster that this is a political game between the MM and Vinecnt Tan. Now lets look at the 3 points I made:

(1) Malky spent £8+ million on a striker this summer only to claim he "isn't ready for the Premier League" (something, in my opinion, I believe is a mistake seeing as we are one of the lowest scoring teams in the division and until we scored against WBA we'd gone 3 games without scoring a single goal and had only registered 4 shots on target). - This is a FACT.

(2) Malky has bought Maynard, Odemwingie, Campbell, Cornelius, Mason, Velikonja (though doubts remain over exactly whose signing he was) and has Bellamy. I said that he has loaned out Mason, won't pick Velikonja. That is also a FACT.

(3) Brayford has not played a single minute of Premier League football for Cardiff City and regularly fails to make the bench and Filip Kiss - a player deemed good enough to who came on in the Carling Cup final against Liverpool - is now stuck in the DVP team after Malky made his loan move permanent. This is also another FACT.

Now, I'll admit I was speculating myself as to whether Malky knew there would be no money available for January, I can't possibly know that, but what I know - as a fan - is that Malky Mackay has often stated his distrust of the January Transfer window (see our lack of/or sparse business during it over the last two seasons) and it is out of character for him to ever talk about potential targets or areas he may or may not want to strengthen. This is why so many of us fans had so little idea prior to the arrivals of Caulker, Medel or Cornelius during the summer, because when it comes to transfers, Malky is usually very tight-lipped. Therefore, my opinion of this incident, is that Malky is looking for the exit (and a payoff) after being disillusioned under Tan (not surprising given the Moody incident) and the fact that our manager went out and did something completely out of character on national TV.

Now, I would suggest you stop attacking other fans' opinions (people are allowed to have their own opinions, whether they agree or disagree, it is a staple of democracy) and try to understand what's being explained to you.

And also, just to mention, stating that we don't need paying customers - I'm a season ticket holder - after we've spent years and years in mountains of crippling debt, makes you look really, well, just unintelligent).

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Tan or Lim whoever that statement came from and Malky are both taking the fans for idiots.

Tan or Lim whoever that statement came from and Malky are both taking the fans for idiots.

Agreed. The fans are caught in the middle. Malky and Tan are only really interested in themselves at this point.

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Man you are so inaccurate and obviously ill informed. We really need fans like you....NOT . Unless you are not really a fan.

Yet you fail to point out exactly HOW I am misinformed. You said Malky DID hand a list of transfer targets to the board, now unless you are Malky or you are a member of the board there is NO possible way that you can be privy to such information. So to recap, what you are saying is purely speculative (Definition of Speculative: a statement based on conjecture rather than knowledge). I simply agreed with an above poster that this is a political game between the MM and Vinecnt Tan. Now lets look at the 3 points I made:

(1) Malky spent £8+ million on a striker this summer only to claim he "isn't ready for the Premier League" (something, in my opinion, I believe is a mistake seeing as we are one of the lowest scoring teams in the division and until we scored against WBA we'd gone 3 games without scoring a single goal and had only registered 4 shots on target). - This is a FACT.

(2) Malky has bought Maynard, Odemwingie, Campbell, Cornelius, Mason, Velikonja (though doubts remain over exactly whose signing he was) and has Bellamy. I said that he has loaned out Mason, won't pick Velikonja. That is also a FACT.

(3) Brayford has not played a single minute of Premier League football for Cardiff City and regularly fails to make the bench and Filip Kiss - a player deemed good enough to who came on in the Carling Cup final against Liverpool - is now stuck in the DVP team after Malky made his loan move permanent. This is also another FACT.

Now, I'll admit I was speculating myself as to whether Malky knew there would be no money available for January, I can't possibly know that, but what I know - as a fan - is that Malky Mackay has often stated his distrust of the January Transfer window (see our lack of/or sparse business during it over the last two seasons) and it is out of character for him to ever talk about potential targets or areas he may or may not want to strengthen. This is why so many of us fans had so little idea prior to the arrivals of Caulker, Medel or Cornelius during the summer, because when it comes to transfers, Malky is usually very tight-lipped. Therefore, my opinion of this incident, is that Malky is looking for the exit (and a payoff) after being disillusioned under Tan (not surprising given the Moody incident) and the fact that our manager went out and did something completely out of character on national TV.

Now, I would suggest you stop attacking other fans' opinions (people are allowed to have their own opinions, whether they agree or disagree, it is a staple of democracy) and try to understand what's being explained to you.

And also, just to mention, stating that we don't need paying customers - I'm a season ticket holder - after we've spent years and years in mountains of crippling debt, makes you look really, well, just unintelligent).

Sorry Ross I mistakenly thought that a forum was where people COULD challenge other contributors opinions ,I am so wrong and thanks for pointing out the error of my ways, I will need to be put on suicide watch now I have upset you and all your negativity. Have a really great Christmas!!

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Man you are so inaccurate and obviously ill informed. We really need fans like you....NOT . Unless you are not really a fan.

Yet you fail to point out exactly HOW I am misinformed. You said Malky DID hand a list of transfer targets to the board, now unless you are Malky or you are a member of the board there is NO possible way that you can be privy to such information. So to recap, what you are saying is purely speculative (Definition of Speculative: a statement based on conjecture rather than knowledge). I simply agreed with an above poster that this is a political game between the MM and Vinecnt Tan. Now lets look at the 3 points I made:

(1) Malky spent £8+ million on a striker this summer only to claim he "isn't ready for the Premier League" (something, in my opinion, I believe is a mistake seeing as we are one of the lowest scoring teams in the division and until we scored against WBA we'd gone 3 games without scoring a single goal and had only registered 4 shots on target). - This is a FACT.

(2) Malky has bought Maynard, Odemwingie, Campbell, Cornelius, Mason, Velikonja (though doubts remain over exactly whose signing he was) and has Bellamy. I said that he has loaned out Mason, won't pick Velikonja. That is also a FACT.

(3) Brayford has not played a single minute of Premier League football for Cardiff City and regularly fails to make the bench and Filip Kiss - a player deemed good enough to who came on in the Carling Cup final against Liverpool - is now stuck in the DVP team after Malky made his loan move permanent. This is also another FACT.

Now, I'll admit I was speculating myself as to whether Malky knew there would be no money available for January, I can't possibly know that, but what I know - as a fan - is that Malky Mackay has often stated his distrust of the January Transfer window (see our lack of/or sparse business during it over the last two seasons) and it is out of character for him to ever talk about potential targets or areas he may or may not want to strengthen. This is why so many of us fans had so little idea prior to the arrivals of Caulker, Medel or Cornelius during the summer, because when it comes to transfers, Malky is usually very tight-lipped. Therefore, my opinion of this incident, is that Malky is looking for the exit (and a payoff) after being disillusioned under Tan (not surprising given the Moody incident) and the fact that our manager went out and did something completely out of character on national TV.

Now, I would suggest you stop attacking other fans' opinions (people are allowed to have their own opinions, whether they agree or disagree, it is a staple of democracy) and try to understand what's being explained to you.

And also, just to mention, stating that we don't need paying customers - I'm a season ticket holder - after we've spent years and years in mountains of crippling debt, makes you look really, well, just unintelligent).

Sorry Ross I mistakenly thought that a forum was where people COULD challenge other contributors opinions ,I am so wrong and thanks for pointing out the error of my ways, I will need to be put on suicide watch now I have upset you and all your negativity. Have a really great Christmas!!

Notice how I used the word US fans when I mentioned the signings. It's an inclusive participle, because though you may disagree with me, I don't consider you any less a fan. There is a difference between challenging an opinion and attacking someone for holding one (i.e saying we don't need fans like you or that an opinion is, in your words "bloody awful"). This is a pretty obvious distinction. I can't really understand how you don't see that.

Managers are always candid about the business they may do in January. It is a market saturated with desperation and inflated prices, and if you don't believe that, look at the Andy Carroll deal, Fernando Torres etc. Clubs don't like to do business in this window for a reason. Why would any manager come out and state, to the press, exactly what positions he's looking to fill in January? Clubs now know that Cardiff are in the market for players, nervously looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door, does anyone actually think clubs aren't going to try and bully us? Ridiculous. Malky wants ANOTHER striker, and we need it, but look at the facts:

(1) He spent £8+ million on a Danish forward that cannot get into our starting eleven and claims he is "one for the future". Well where is the striker for right now, considering we are one of the lowest scoring teams? And when has ANY promoted club spent nearly 1/3 of their allocated budget on a striker NOT for their maiden PL season? It's a luxury purchase newly promoted teams just cannot afford.

(2) He has loaned out Joe Mason, will NEVER pick Velikonja, brought in Nicky Maynard, Frazier Campbell, Andreas Cornelius and Peter Odemwingie - not to mention he also has Craig Bellamy. Just how many strikers does he want?!?

(3) Does anyone know why we bought John Brayford or Fillip Kiss?

Malky is playing little political mind games with Tan, he knew this would anger him. But in my eyes Malky comes out of this looking the FOOL.The club statement, finally telling us why Iain Moody was relieved of his duties, and explaining why funds will not be available, is perfectly reasonable. Tan spent the summer paying off all our creditors, the historic Langston debt AND made enough funds available to makes us one of the highest spending clubs in the Premier League in the close season - not to mention we have been given the go-ahead on a Stadium expansion, a new training ground and the debt is being converted to equity.

Malky, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes with the money he has been given, ones that might cost us, and Tan is damn right not to give him a penny more. The saying goes "you live and die by your signings as a manger", so it's high-time Malky took some responsibility.

Controversial! But its hard to disagree with most of your points. In his defence though, MM was only doing what every other manager does just before a transfer window - saying he wants to get in more players. It gives the fans a lift, and makes the current squad buck their ideas up a bit. By saying he wanted 3 new players, he was probably hoping Tan would compromise and let him get in a loan signing or two.

Alex Ferguson signed dummies, bebe, veron, powell,zaha,doesn't make you a bad manager

Powell has a lot of potentiol.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument Malky it seems was not told he would have no budget for Jan otherwise he would not come out with a statement about his wish list , now every man and his dog knows, is this good practice by our club? surely the manager should be told this before making it public!
Whoever comes in for Malky (as it's just a matter of time now the touchpaper has been lit) will know the character we all know as VT and his way of working and tbh "my way or no way" will not appeal to many potential managers.

Mehmet Dalman told it to the world a few days previous. Where was Malky, doesn't he read the papers/look at the news?

Malky is the man to lead us to safety, simple.