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fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:26 pm

Not being funny but I fkin hate the unions.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:29 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:Not being funny but I fkin hate the unions.

Then I hope what their employers are doing to them happens to you cos its a f*cking disgrace

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:37 pm

I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:39 pm

Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

What utter ignorance. Night shift is 15 hrs and they lay down between midnight and 6 only.

So they should retire at 65 like the rest of us then.......hope you or your kids arent in a fire a have 64 yr old pensioner scale a ladder to try and rescue you.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:42 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

What utter ignorance.

So they should retire at 65 like the rest of us then.......hope you or your kids arent in a fire a have 64 yr old pensioner scale a ladder to try and rescue you.

They have to keep themselves fit or face the sack,they've had it easy to long.
Shape up or ship out.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:44 pm

I've worked 12 hour nights and never been offered a lay down ffs.
Payed for sleeping what a disgrace.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:45 pm

Hawkeye wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

What utter ignorance.

So they should retire at 65 like the rest of us then.......hope you or your kids arent in a fire a have 64 yr old pensioner scale a ladder to try and rescue you.

They have to keep themselves fit or face the sack,they've had it easy to long.
Shape up or ship out.

Age catches up with everyone.

Your an utter fool mate fairplay.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:46 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

What utter ignorance.

So they should retire at 65 like the rest of us then.......hope you or your kids arent in a fire a have 64 yr old pensioner scale a ladder to try and rescue you.

They have to keep themselves fit or face the sack,they've had it easy to long.
Shape up or ship out.

Age catches up with everyone.

Your an utter fool mate fairplay.

:thumbup:

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:57 pm

Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:05 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Hawkeye wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.


I wasnt aware they do, not what advantage there is to that really.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:10 pm

Take the beds out ,put a gym in and make them do exercise instead of sleeping.They could then make 65 no problem.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:13 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.


I wasnt aware they do, not what advantage there is to that really.

They work 15hr nightshifts and have lay down period between midnight and 6am.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:23 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:Not being funny but I fkin hate the unions.


Read the history books my friend and try and educate yourself.Go to the local library if your short of cash.....the unions especially the miners paid for the first ones.....have a look where all your holidays.....weekends off.....pay rises....employment rights.....health and safety regulations.....pensions....maternity rights.....equal pay....etc etc etc have come from.Do you honestly think business and owners gave us them things....they were fought for by our forefathers...in strikes and hardship, over many years.People like my grandfather spent 7 months on strike so people like you could have a decent life, so dont ever forget it.Educate yourself.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:26 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.


I wasnt aware they do, not what advantage there is to that really.

They work 15hr nightshifts and have lay down period between midnight and 6am.


thats nice for them

join the mechant navy as a deck hand one of the hardest and dangerous jobs this country can offer and then discover a fire on board doesnt matter how tired you are or how long your shift has been or whether youve slept, you fight that fire or you die and nobodies coming to save you, oh and your 65 years of age. Maybe the fire service should have a rethink of their actions.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:37 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.


I wasnt aware they do, not what advantage there is to that really.

They work 15hr nightshifts and have lay down period between midnight and 6am.


thats nice for them

join the mechant navy as a deck hand one of the hardest and dangerous jobs this country can offer and then discover a fire on board doesnt matter how tired you are or how long your shift has been or whether youve slept, you fight that fire or you die and nobodies coming to save you, oh and your 65 years of age. Maybe the fire service should have a rethink of their actions.

My father was in the merchant Navy for 9 years, then was a firefighter for the rest of his career. Ask him........

A fire on a boat is rare..........

Firefighters run into burning buildings every day risking their lives for other peoples lives and property..........for a starting salary of £21k per annum. .shame on them.

Some people are just dull as f**k.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:45 pm

Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

I've worked sleeping nights...so your wrong my friend.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:56 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Yes and No on this one

as an emergency service you expect them to be fit anyway and age does have a factor on this

however I believe its down to an individual firefighters to maintain fitness like the military and there is no union protecting our armed forces, so the fire service have an advantage.

Merchant Navy sailors work until they are 65 and firefighting is a required duty so if they can fight fires at sea at 65 why cant the fire service.

Each to their own if they think they can get something out of it good luck to them


sleeping through their night shift should stop,can't believe they get away with it.


I wasnt aware they do, not what advantage there is to that really.

They work 15hr nightshifts and have lay down period between midnight and 6am.


thats nice for them

join the mechant navy as a deck hand one of the hardest and dangerous jobs this country can offer and then discover a fire on board doesnt matter how tired you are or how long your shift has been or whether youve slept, you fight that fire or you die and nobodies coming to save you, oh and your 65 years of age. Maybe the fire service should have a rethink of their actions.

My father was in the merchant Navy for 9 years, then was a firefighter for the rest of his career. Ask him........

A fire on a boat is rare..........

Firefighters run into burning buildings every day risking their lives for other peoples lives and property..........for a starting salary of £21k per annum. .shame on them.

Some people are just dull as f**k.


house fires arent as common as they used to be (not saying they dont happen) but you would be hard pressed to find a firefighter who fights different fires on consecutive days. traffic accidents seem to be more regular for firefighters and though not a very nice job the other emergency services get to sleep when they are working

and dont bring up starting salaries because every job has a starting salary and you can do a lot more dangerous jobs in this country for less money.

and fires at sea are more common than you think just the crews are capable of containing them very quickly and therefore dont make headlines.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:10 pm

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

I've worked sleeping nights...so your wrong my friend.

i don't think i am,i can't think of any other job that pays you to sleep.
Name the job you had that payed you to sleep.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:47 pm

Hawkeye wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

I've worked sleeping nights...so your wrong my friend.

i don't think i am,i can't think of any other job that pays you to sleep.
Name the job you had that payed you to sleep.


A Silentnight mattress tester on night shift ? :ayatollah:
A student being a geniue pig at a sleep aponea clinic? :ayatollah:
A vampire working at a dayschool? :ayatollah:

I got brain ache now - sorry about that - going off to sleep now.

Bloooobirds !!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:57 pm

Do firefighters really risk their lives every day?

Do they run into burning buildings?



Maybe on tv

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:58 pm

Do firefighters really risk their lives every day?

Do they run into burning buildings?



Maybe on tv

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:10 pm

Hawkeye wrote:I've worked 12 hour nights and never been offered a lay down ffs.
Payed for sleeping what a disgrace.

How many lives have you saved on your night shift

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:13 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Do firefighters really risk their lives every day?

Do they run into burning buildings?



Maybe on tv


Try being one and you'll see stupid question anyway

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:22 pm

Dylanthomas wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Do firefighters really risk their lives every day?

Do they run into burning buildings?



Maybe on tv


Try being one and you'll see stupid question anyway



I dont want to be one thanks.

They get well enough paid for an unskilled job thats not as dangerous as they would like you to think.

Anyway, I have no issue with a strike for better working conditions, just stop picking the busiest days to do it.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:29 pm

My mates a fireman,a doddle he says,money for nothing.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:39 pm

Hawkeye wrote:
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:I don't know any other job where if your doing a night shift you go to bed.
And why should they retire in their fifty's.

I've worked sleeping nights...so your wrong my friend.

i don't think i am,i can't think of any other job that pays you to sleep.
Name the job you had that payed you to sleep.

I'm a drug addiction practitioner.....when you work in a live in rehab, you go to bed and get paid for that nights work.
I'm now in a detox...and you get paid higher for a waking night.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:03 am

Far to many getting payed for sleeping,if you sleep you don't get payed,simple.

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:24 am

Good on them I say why is it MPs can get a 11% rise second homes and lots of other benefits for doing f**k all but further destroy not so Great Britain! And firefighters police and the armed forces can't get anything but further staff cuts etc

Nurses being paid up to retire then we have a shortage of nurses and no one skilled to take the jobs the health service in a complete mess when it need not be and there answer is to privatise it YES cos that will work mind!

It'll mean you and I will be even worse off than we are now, when will the government learn that charity begins at home and start looking out for our countries interests before others, the health service should be high priority for our government as should other emergency services who save lives daily yet all we see is cuts cuts cuts but MPS can get 11% more a year bankers continue to receive ridiculous bonuses this country is highly fucked up

Re: fire service strike new years eve

Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:47 am

Denzil wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote:Not being funny but I fkin hate the unions.


Read the history books my friend and try and educate yourself.Go to the local library if your short of cash.....the unions especially the miners paid for the first ones.....have a look where all your holidays.....weekends off.....pay rises....employment rights.....health and safety regulations.....pensions....maternity rights.....equal pay....etc etc etc have come from.Do you honestly think business and owners gave us them things....they were fought for by our forefathers...in strikes and hardship, over many years.People like my grandfather spent 7 months on strike so people like you could have a decent life, so dont ever forget it.Educate yourself.

And as a business owner the unions can shove all above in a big fat one and smoke it! :malky: