Our Fickle Supporters

The defeat at Palace was the lowest point of the season so far, our performance was gutless however I find it incredible how quickly fans turn on our manager. Some fans that a few weeks ago that were singing 'don't sack Mackay' are now calling for him to go, and in the words of one of our asshole fans at palace 'get rid of that useless jock c***'.

While I understand the frustrations regarding our tactics, I don't think Malky has much choice but to play a 4-5-1 because of the quality of our squad. If you looked at our starting 11,every player with the exception of Marshall, Caulker, KTC, Medel & Mutch are easily replaceable and aren't premier league quality. If we played a more attacking 4-4-2 we would get our asses handed to us on a weekly basis, you only have to look at Blackpool's premiership campaign to see how ruthless this league can be when you try to attack established premiership teams away from home.

I think some fans need to re-evaluate their expectation levels from this season. If we are to stay up, we are going to stay up through fighting gritty performances and on the strength of our home form. As things stand, we are not in the relegation zone and we have held our own at home. Mackay is one of our greatest ever managers and after years of watching Dave Jones trying to get us promoted, it was our work ethic and passion that got us promoted last year and it is what will keep us in the premier league this year. Let's be fair DJ had more talented squads in his time at city than Malky had last season - the difference last year was our willingness to battle as a unit. Yes it was an awful performance but FFS get behind the manager, get behind the players and recognize we are in a dog fight. Getting on the back of our players and manager does not help anyone.

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

6 wins out of 28 games sorry but not good enough this is malky squad with nearly 50 million being spent it has to improve no good the players only being up for the big games if it doesn't change fast then malky should be sacked before its too late

While I understand the frustrations regarding our tactics, I don't think Malky has much choice but to play a 4-5-1 because of the quality of our squad. If you looked at our starting 11,every player with the exception of Marshall, Caulker, KTC, Medel & Mutch are easily replaceable and aren't premier league quality. If we played a more attacking 4-4-2 we would get our asses handed to us on a weekly basis, you only have to look at Blackpool's premiership campaign to see how ruthless this league can be when you try to attack established premiership teams away from home.

you must see the problem with this assessment surely?

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

While I understand the frustrations regarding our tactics, I don't think Malky has much choice but to play a 4-5-1 because of the quality of our squad. If you looked at our starting 11,every player with the exception of Marshall, Caulker, KTC, Medel & Mutch are easily replaceable and aren't premier league quality. If we played a more attacking 4-4-2 we would get our asses handed to us on a weekly basis, you only have to look at Blackpool's premiership campaign to see how ruthless this league can be when you try to attack established premiership teams away from home.

you must see the problem with this assessment surely?

No? enlighten me.

If Malky had played No one, given Campbell some support and not had Turner play long balls to Campbell all day then fewer people would complain. But we all pay money to watch Cardiff and some of us are sick of our mansger's inferiority complex to Crystal f*cking Palace.

Kim Whitts Mutch Cowie

That four do not have enough pace.

well its as the other poster said really. This side was put together by Malky, if its not good enough then the buck stops with him.

6 wins out of 28 games sorry but not good enough this is malky squad with nearly 50 million being spent it has to improve no good the players only being up for the big games if it doesn't change fast then malky should be sacked before its too late

Quote whatever statistics you want, as things stand we will be playing premiership football next season. Did you expect we would be fighting for European football? Sacking malky now would be disastrous.

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

If you look at the squad he inherited when he took over, we were on the bones of our ass after DJ's loan signings and big time charlies left. In that time he has taken us to the playoffs, carling cup final, won the championship and we have a real chance of premiership survival. If people believe that sacking our manager when he is on target to reach our objective is wise, then you need your heads seeing to.

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Brayford, cornelius or lappin haven't been in our starting 11 at all this season if you want to nit pick.

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Brayford, cornelius or lappin haven't been in our starting 11 at all this season if you want to nit pick.

Yet Malky spent a third of his budget on them

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Brayford, cornelius or lappin haven't been in our starting 11 at all this season if you want to nit pick.

Yet Malky spent a third of his budget on them

Seeing as 8m of that was for Cornelius who has been out injured and could still prove to be one of our best ever signings, I don't think that's a valid point really.

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Brayford, cornelius or lappin haven't been in our starting 11 at all this season if you want to nit pick.

Yet Malky spent a third of his budget on them

Seeing as 8m of that was for Cornelius who has been out injured and could still prove to be one of our best ever signings, I don't think that's a valid point really.

what a silly thing to say

he could prove to be one of our worst ever signings too!! just cant judge really

Your arguement is based on Malky is doing the best with the squad he has.

Tell me, who assembled that squad???

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

John Brayford, Cornelius, odemwingie, Simon Lappin

Ok maybe Brayford didn't go according to plan, and Lappin was always going to be there as cover. Odemwingie has been good so far in my opinion, and to judge a player after playing less than 20 mins in the premiership after being out injured just sums up how clueless some of our supporters are at times. I was arguing with a guy at palace who said Cornelius was a pile of shit and a waste of money. Give the guy a chance FFS

You have judged though. You said he has improved our starting eleven

Brayford, cornelius or lappin haven't been in our starting 11 at all this season if you want to nit pick.

Yet Malky spent a third of his budget on them

Seeing as 8m of that was for Cornelius who has been out injured and could still prove to be one of our best ever signings, I don't think that's a valid point really.

what a silly thing to say

he could prove to be one of our worst ever signings too!! just cant judge really

Not at all mate, a silly thing to say is to imply a third of our budget has been wasted when the majority of that has gone on a player who has been out injured. You're right, you can't judge but it hasn't stopped a good number of our fans judging him already.

as you have also just judged him you mean?

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

I made my point clearly, you were the one who assumed that I thought players who haven't started a game can improve a starting line up maybe the same idiotic thought process has led you to believe that sacking Malky is the answer

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

I made my point clearly, you were the one who assumed that I thought players who haven't started a game can improve a starting line up maybe the same idiotic thought process has led you to believe that sacking Malky is the answer

"Every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11."

You said it lol

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

I made my point clearly, you were the one who assumed that I thought players who haven't started a game can improve a starting line up maybe the same idiotic thought process has led you to believe that sacking Malky is the answer

"Every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11."

You said it lol

Can't be assed arguing with someone who doesn't understand what starting 11 means. Again I will ask you how can someone improve our starting 11 if they don't start Einstein? I know this is hard for your little pea brain to process, but if you actually read what I said and didn't try to be a smart ass, matter of fact idiot then maybe we could debate this subject a bit more intelligently.

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

I made my point clearly, you were the one who assumed that I thought players who haven't started a game can improve a starting line up maybe the same idiotic thought process has led you to believe that sacking Malky is the answer

"Every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11."

You said it lol

Can't be assed arguing with someone who doesn't understand what starting 11 means. Again I will ask you how can someone improve our starting 11 if they don't start Einstein? I know this is hard for your little pea brain to process, but if you actually read what I said and didn't try to be a smart ass, matter of fact idiot then maybe we could debate this subject a bit more intelligently.

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

You said it though, word for word. Don't blame me for reading what you wrote.

In future, express yourself better and type what you really mean.

No mate, as I've clearly stated you cannot judge a player after 2 sub appearances lasting a combined total of less than 20 minutes.

So how can you say he improved our starting 11?

Every player that Malky signed in the summer that has started a premiership game this season has improved our team. Don't be such a matter of fact nit picker, how can someone who hasn't started a game improve our starting 11?

Next time say what you mean then

I made my point clearly, you were the one who assumed that I thought players who haven't started a game can improve a starting line up maybe the same idiotic thought process has led you to believe that sacking Malky is the answer

"Every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11."

You said it lol

Can't be assed arguing with someone who doesn't understand what starting 11 means. Again I will ask you how can someone improve our starting 11 if they don't start Einstein? I know this is hard for your little pea brain to process, but if you actually read what I said and didn't try to be a smart ass, matter of fact idiot then maybe we could debate this subject a bit more intelligently.

Mackay assembled the squad. This is his third season. If you look at the depleted squad we had when he took over, built a play off side on a shoe string budget then won the league. He has had one summer to add premiership quality and in fairness, every signing he has made this season has improved our starting 11.

You said it though, word for word. Don't blame me for reading what you wrote.

In future, express yourself better and type what you really mean.

I'm not blaming you for reading what I wrote, I'm blaming you for interpreting what I wrote like an idiot even after I cleared the point up. I'm bored, you haven't been able to debate football issues or back up any of your opinions with any relevant points so you resort to being a smart Alec

Cornelius now needs to be startng games, he's not injured anymore he just lacks match fitness which you only get by playing, we need to see what he brings to the table, play campbell along side him with noone supplying the width / crosses, possibly give hudson a go instead of turner but malky needs to make changes and has to attack teams more, if he doesn't he'll be gone before the turkey gets carved.

Agreed, I would like to see Cornelius play more, and I would also like to see some width through Nooney but you can't blame malky for lining up 4-5-1 in any premiership game so far this season. The problem with Hudson is he is great when the play is in front of him, he reads the games very well, but as we have seen over the years, if he gets turned he is a liabilty and in that respect Turner is a better defender. The thing that's so annoying about Turner atm is the hoofball that he is playing! Personally I would drop Cowie in place of Noone, and Cornelius instead of Campbell. At least Cornelius will be able to hold the ball up and win balls in the air. I would still play a 4-5-1 because I don't think we have the quality to outplay teams at this level, and having 4 in midfield with Whitts & Noone being 2 of them would leave us exposed at the back.