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NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:42 pm

Calm Down,we'll still stay up :ayatollah:

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:46 pm

Yeah, everything's great isn't it?

What are we worrying for? We've got a great manager, top players and we're easily holding our own in the Premier League picking up valuable points every now and again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:51 pm

davids wrote:Yeah, everything's great isn't it?

What are we worrying for? We've got a great manager, top players and we're easily holding our own in the Premier League picking up valuable points every now and again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Were not in the bottom three..its a tough old league . Were nowhere near a crisis, just a poor result today

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:58 pm

cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:Yeah, everything's great isn't it?

What are we worrying for? We've got a great manager, top players and we're easily holding our own in the Premier League picking up valuable points every now and again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Were not in the bottom three..its a tough old league . Were nowhere near a crisis, just a poor result today


Fair play to you for your positivity but I can't feel the same.

We are in real trouble. We are not scoring goals and we are not set up to score them. We have a team of mainly Championship quality players with a manager who is proving one dimensional and too stubborn to change. Of course he is making mistakes - that's to be expected but the most worrying thing is that he does not seem to acknowledge them and even worse, he does not seem to be learning from them.

Difficult to see where the next win is going to come from.

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:02 pm

davids wrote:
cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:Yeah, everything's great isn't it?

What are we worrying for? We've got a great manager, top players and we're easily holding our own in the Premier League picking up valuable points every now and again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Were not in the bottom three..its a tough old league . Were nowhere near a crisis, just a poor result today


Fair play to you for your positivity but I can't feel the same.

We are in real trouble. We are not scoring goals and we are not set up to score them. We have a team of mainly Championship quality players with a manager who is proving one dimensional and too stubborn to change. Of course he is making mistakes - that's to beexpected but the most worrying thing is that he does not seem to acknowledge them and even worse, he does not seem to be learning from them.

Difficult to see where the next win is going to come from.


Your points are fair, but its mainly away from home were really struggle to score goals, which I agree is a problem. But its our home from which keeps us up and our away form which determines how high up the table we'll finish. I believe we'll have a good enough home form to keep us up. There are goals in our team, which was proven in games such as man utd and man city. Im hoping for some width and pace in january and I think we'll have enough. :ayatollah:

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:05 pm

cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:
Were not in the bottom three...


Except, based on our last six games, yes we are. And we haven't scored in our last three games either, two of which were against teams who've leaked goals in previous fixtures.

Even worse, Malky's interview after the game implies that he thinks everything was fine except for us not getting our shots on target. That guy is crazy if he genuinely believes that was the only problem.

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:13 pm

KWest wrote:
cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:
Were not in the bottom three...


Except, based on our last six games, yes we are. And we haven't scored in our last three games either, two of which were against teams who've leaked goals in previous fixtures.

Even worse, Malky's interview after the game implies that he thinks everything was fine except for us not getting our shots on target. That guy is crazy if he genuinely believes that was the only problem.


But our results over the whole season so far show we are not in the bottom three. Weve done enough so far to avoid being in the bottom 3. Just because were on poor form does not mean were a poor team and that we'll go down :?

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:26 pm

It shows that instead of getting better in this league over time, we've actually got worse.

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:29 pm

cardiffred wrote:Calm Down,we'll still stay up :ayatollah:


It's not all about staying up though, we are in an absolute crisis off the pitch and have been since that Malaysian strolled into the club.

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:33 pm

We are in crisis - what planet are you on

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:39 pm

NIBluebird wrote:We are in crisis - what planet are you on


Were in premier league and not in the bottom three. Think the question is what planet are you on?

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:57 pm

cardiffred wrote:Calm Down,we'll still stay up :ayatollah:


It's not a crisis yet but that's why people are concerned. If Malky continues as he does then it will become a crisis.

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:41 pm

cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:
cardiffred wrote:
davids wrote:Yeah, everything's great isn't it?

What are we worrying for? We've got a great manager, top players and we're easily holding our own in the Premier League picking up valuable points every now and again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Were not in the bottom three..its a tough old league . Were nowhere near a crisis, just a poor result today


Fair play to you for your positivity but I can't feel the same.

We are in real trouble. We are not scoring goals and we are not set up to score them. We have a team of mainly Championship quality players with a manager who is proving one dimensional and too stubborn to change. Of course he is making mistakes - that's to beexpected but the most worrying thing is that he does not seem to acknowledge them and even worse, he does not seem to be learning from them.

Difficult to see where the next win is going to come from.


Your points are fair, but its mainly away from home were really struggle to score goals, which I agree is a problem. But its our home from which keeps us up and our away form which determines how high up the table we'll finish. I believe we'll have a good enough home form to keep us up. There are goals in our team, which was proven in games such as man utd and man city. Im hoping for some width and pace in january and I think we'll have enough. :ayatollah:


I like to be optimistic but we have just 12 home games left now! We are not going to get 36/36 point in these games to make us safe this year

We sit on 14 points after 15 games 12 home to come and 11 away

We have already seen that no away game is easy on this league and we have a harder run of away games now than earlier in the season so I don't see us picking up more than 7/8 points out of the possible 33 on offer this isn't being pessimistic either we have some real tough games coming away from home at best IMO we now got 22 points meaning 18 from safety

We have 12 home games remaining granted these are made up of winnable fixtures but no game is a given and I truly worry where we will score the goals we need

36 points available theoretically on my away hypothesis we need half the points on offer to hit 40 this season and just 1 win in 9 games doesn't inspire this sort of confidence needed in Mackay to be the man to get those points many of you will say that's only 6 wins but we've won only 3 games in 15 this season so far

I just don't see us staying up without taking some chances we need to score goals and u don't do that passing around your own half either Mackay has to change his approach of the club has to make a tough decision as we have a few games where we can get some points this month but we have to be bolder ideally we need 2 wins from next four game at least to put us on 20 points gong into new year especially as on paper January is very tough but the way we are playing I don't think we will get those 6 points

Hope we can score some goals and take some points off west brom but IMO we will lose west brom on their day play extremely well on the road and they are not afraid to go for points which they also need at the moment

Re: NOT A CRISIS

Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:47 pm

For me west brom and Sunderland games have now become the must win games west brom sit 1 point in front of us so beating them puts is above them and if we haven't won by time of Sunderland game then that defo becomes a must win game we talk about six pointers and some say they don't exist but losing to palace today has put them just 1 behind us a draw and they remained 4 adrift big difference these games are defo massive had we beat palace today we'd be 7 clear missed a big trick today