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' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:50 pm

Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.


I agree, it should be full. The honest answer, IMO, is down to a number of reasons. We have a lot of fair-weather fans who aren't interested and are more concerned with the Premier League.

More importantly, the club priced the tickets too high. They've completely ballsed up on this one. Spurs have had thousands of empty seats in their home games too. Most clubs do in the Europa League.

Saying all that, it will probably still sell out against Valencia. You can guarantee that it will sell out in the knock-out stages if we get through.

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:55 pm

cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:07 pm

BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon

We had 15,000 20 years ago in Europe we would easily sell out if it was our first year in Europe like the Jack's ,

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:10 pm

wez1927 wrote:
BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon

We had 15,000 20 years ago in Europe we would easily sell out if it was our first year in Europe like the Jack's ,


different then mate because we prob just played Southend or somebody on the previous Saturday and people chose Euro game over that, thus cutting the cost

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:30 pm

Penguin wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.


I agree, it should be full. The honest answer, IMO, is down to a number of reasons. We have a lot of fair-weather fans who aren't interested and are more concerned with the Premier League.

More importantly, the club priced the tickets too high. They've completely ballsed up on this one. Spurs have had thousands of empty seats in their home games too. Most clubs do in the Europa League.

Saying all that, it will probably still sell out against Valencia. You can guarantee that it will sell out in the knock-out stages if we get through.


Cheers for an honest answer :thumbup:

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:37 pm

BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon


I reckon your wrong,if we were in the same position as the Jacks, I could see us now getting 20k average for most Europa games. Ticket prices would be reduced for Europa league games so this would ensure aroud 20k :thumbup:
Valencia, given the same position as the Jacks would be close to 28k sellout in my humble opinion.

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:38 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon


I reckon your wrong,if we were in the same position as the Jacks, I could see us now getting 20k average for most Europa games. Ticket prices would be reduced for Europa league games so this would ensure aroud 20k :thumbup:
Valencia, given the same position as the Jacks would be close to 28k sellout in my humble opinion.



I'm totally with you on this :thumbup:

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:54 pm

If theyre given away free tickets surely that's f*cking over the fans that shelled out 30 quid when they first went on sale

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:12 pm

Swansea City fans split over free Valencia tickets for DVLA
By South Wales Evening Post


SWANSEA City have defended giving away hundreds of tickets to DVLA staff for this week's European game against Valencia.

Some supporters have reacted angrily to the move saying it is unfair as they have paid to see Thursday's match at the Liberty.

But a spokesman for the club said the "one-off" move was part of a number of community initiatives aimed at encouraging new supporters to attend.

Many fans have left posts on the Planet Swans website forum.

One said: "So regular fans have to pay £30 while civil servants get free tickets?

"Free tickets could have been given to fans who have travelled to Europa League away games. Free tickets should go to charity workers, volunteers, hospital workers."

But another was more supportive.

He wrote: "Not sure if it's been posted before, but the club have also done some deals with local schools for Thursday. If it's a choice between spare seats and tickets to the DVLA then I'm all for the latter.

"Even if 10 per cent get hooked it makes good commercial sense."

A spokesman for the club said: "The one-off ticket project with the DVLA, one of the largest employers in the area, is part of a commercial and marketing initiative carried out in preparation for the proposed stadium expansion.

"The DVLA sports and social department will help provide us with important market research material as part of the initiative.

"It is vital we continue working towards building our fan base with new and floating supporters in order to sell-out the Liberty Stadium at every opportunity going forward, including one-off cup games.

"We have also implemented a number of school initiatives for the Valencia fixture, although we are limited in the number of tickets that will be utilised due to the late kick-off and the fact that there is school the following day.

"Our Community Trust department is also distributing tickets to good causes for the fixture, such as health in the community case workers from Pembroke to Ammanford via the Ty Hafal unit.

"Looking forward, we are currently aiming to offer substantial ticket discounts exclusively for our season ticket holders should we progress to the knockout stage of the Europa League."



Read more: http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk ... z2lroaTBIg

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:13 pm

englishbluebird wrote:If theyre given away free tickets surely that's f*cking over the fans that shelled out 30 quid when they first went on sale




From Evening Post
One said: "So regular fans have to pay £30 while civil servants get free tickets?

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:26 pm

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Forever Blue wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:If theyre given away free tickets surely that's f*cking over the fans that shelled out 30 quid when they first went on sale




From Evening Post
One said: "So regular fans have to pay £30 while civil servants get free tickets?


What makes me laugh, is the Jacks come on here and argue that it's impossible for them to get higher crowds as they only have 20k capacity and insist that they have thousands on their season ticket waiting list :lol:
So, where are all these supporters now then, who can't get to watch their beloved Swans week in week out? Surely this game would be a perfect opportunity to see their idols playing in the flesh against top European opposition? :lol:

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:39 pm

Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:44 pm

jackf wrote:Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.


Your moaning about £150 quid to go to Fulham, you went to Valencia £5-600? Yet, you have decided to moan about £30 a ticket to support your boys at home?? You would rather watch on the box :lol: Priceless :laughing5:

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:50 pm

englishbluebird wrote:If theyre given away free tickets surely that's f*cking over the fans that shelled out 30 quid when they first went on sale



Get ready for a - yeah but you screwed sam out of 15m - post.

We would sell 25,000 easy against valencia. They dont cos their new football/ old rugby fans arent interested.
Hope they draw though

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:50 pm

If they can't sell a 20,000 ground to play an huge club like Valencia I feel embarrassed for them. The people of Swansea don't deserve a team competing in Europe.

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:08 pm

jackf wrote:Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.

Somebody get the violin out

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:46 pm

From a Jack on FB


Simon 'Lofty' Thomas
So yet again the Swans stick to fingers up to fans that have spent fortunes over the years supprting them home and away, really does take the piss

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.


Ok, I'll give you an honest answer. I really thought that we would sell out every Europa League match and I am disappointed that we haven't. I do, however, think there are a number of reasons for that. So far this season, after tomorrow night, we will have played 23 matches. That's about ten more than yourselves, for instance. With the cost of Premier League football these days ( got my ticket for Chelsea today £50) people are picking and choosing games. Also, Christmas is just around the corner with all the cost associated with that. I do, however, think that the club has got the pricing structure spectacularly wrong and had to give away tickets or sell at a reduced price for the first two EL matches. Yes, I'm bloody livid that they've given away free tickets and have written to protest.
As for the Cardiff supporters on here giving the usual "we'd sell out 28,000" bullshit, well we can have that argument if you ever get into Europe. Until then, it's just opinion!

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Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:05 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.


Ok, I'll give you an honest answer. I really thought that we would sell out every Europa League match and I am disappointed that we haven't. I do, however, think there are a number of reasons for that. So far this season, after tomorrow night, we will have played 23 matches. That's about ten more than yourselves, for instance. With the cost of Premier League football these days ( got my ticket for Chelsea today £50) people are picking and choosing games. Also, Christmas is just around the corner with all the cost associated with that. I do, however, think that the club has got the pricing structure spectacularly wrong and had to give away tickets or sell at a reduced price for the first two EL matches. Yes, I'm bloody livid that they've given away free tickets and have written to protest.
As for the Cardiff supporters on here giving the usual "we'd sell out 28,000" bullshit, well we can have that argument if you ever get into Europe. Until then, it's just opinion!


Spot on.

I'll just add to that, each game has also been on free to air terrestrial tv and this has obviously had an impact along with the home group games not kicking off until gone 8pm which makes it difficult for parents to take kids due to the late finish.

But I'll be there :thumbright:

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:58 pm

wez1927 wrote:
BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon

We had 15,000 20 years ago in Europe we would easily sell out if it was our first year in Europe like the Jack's ,


No you didn't.

http://www.wfda.co.uk/europe_index.php? ... _rsEur=257

Re: ' An Honest Answer please from the Jacks on here '

Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:57 pm

Can see why from the answers given. Money is tight for most at the moment. Football is an expensive game and even though I hate the Jacks I respect them more than the plastic Mancs and Liverpool so called fans that watch there teams down the pub.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:01 am

I dont understand why some think European football attracts big crowds. Our last home European match of which i can find an attendance for was just over 9,000 and we rarely got above that for a European game. None of the English clubs sell out for European group matches from what I can see. People are on waiting lists for Premier League football not cup competitions. Money is tight, people pick and choose, same goes for every club.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:09 am

statoswan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
BEEP AHM wrote:cardiff wouldnt either. We would get average 15k I reckon

We had 15,000 20 years ago in Europe we would easily sell out if it was our first year in Europe like the Jack's ,


No you didn't.

http://www.wfda.co.uk/europe_index.php? ... _rsEur=257


:lol: Quality link! Funny how things get exaggerated over the years.


NJ73 wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why can't Swansea sell their big European night out at home?

Youve given hundreds of Free tickets away as well, surely it will now be a full house ?

This is not having a dig, I am asking as your stadium only holds 20,000, so it should be full, European nights are what I honestly miss.


Ok, I'll give you an honest answer. I really thought that we would sell out every Europa League match and I am disappointed that we haven't. I do, however, think there are a number of reasons for that. So far this season, after tomorrow night, we will have played 23 matches. That's about ten more than yourselves, for instance. With the cost of Premier League football these days ( got my ticket for Chelsea today £50) people are picking and choosing games. Also, Christmas is just around the corner with all the cost associated with that. I do, however, think that the club has got the pricing structure spectacularly wrong and had to give away tickets or sell at a reduced price for the first two EL matches. Yes, I'm bloody livid that they've given away free tickets and have written to protest.
As for the Cardiff supporters on here giving the usual "we'd sell out 28,000" bullshit, well we can have that argument if you ever get into Europe. Until then, it's just opinion!


Spot on.

I'll just add to that, each game has also been on free to air terrestrial tv and this has obviously had an impact along with the home group games not kicking off until gone 8pm which makes it difficult for parents to take kids due to the late finish.

But I'll be there :thumbright:


Yep. Pretty much all of the above. People will pick and choose. 90% of the real Swans fans will be there. Some wont due to being exiled and/or for financial reasons.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:00 am

if we had beat liverpool in the league cup final. we would not be in the premiership now.. Great day out, but that competition has too many games and travelling, wrecks the players with small squads :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:I was there 20 years ago, cant remember any crowds near 20000, more like 6 to 9000.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:43 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
jackf wrote:Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.


Your moaning about £150 quid to go to Fulham, you went to Valencia £5-600? Yet, you have decided to moan about £30 a ticket to support your boys at home?? You would rather watch on the box :lol: Priceless :laughing5:

Maybe if you had 4 games to support financially with a family in 11 days you to would find it hard,but maybe it's something you'll never experience,while we're on the empty seat subject where's your 28,000 football fanatics at international games.Surely you should be supporting them, after all they're wearing your club colours.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:52 pm

jacket wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:
jackf wrote:Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.


Your moaning about £150 quid to go to Fulham, you went to Valencia £5-600? Yet, you have decided to moan about £30 a ticket to support your boys at home?? You would rather watch on the box :lol: Priceless :laughing5:

Maybe if you had 4 games to support financially with a family in 11 days you to would find it hard,but maybe it's something you'll never experience,while we're on the empty seat subject where's your 28,000 football fanatics at international games.Surely you should be supporting them, after all they're wearing your club colours.


What a shit comeback :lol:

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:56 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
jacket wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:
jackf wrote:Live on itv
30 quid a ticket
For me personaly im going to watch it on the box. Went to get Fulham on Saturday went through 150 quid. Went to valencia away. Going to a few more aways and now its time to think about next years season ticket. No pay rise for 3 years and two kids mad on the swans. Add in xmas and birthdays and it's the box for me. 700 quid a season of home tickets, couple of kid shirts and other stuff from shop. Sky sports subscription and the way its going how can a family man keep on justifying spending more and more.


Your moaning about £150 quid to go to Fulham, you went to Valencia £5-600? Yet, you have decided to moan about £30 a ticket to support your boys at home?? You would rather watch on the box :lol: Priceless :laughing5:

Maybe if you had 4 games to support financially with a family in 11 days you to would find it hard,but maybe it's something you'll never experience,while we're on the empty seat subject where's your 28,000 football fanatics at international games.Surely you should be supporting them, after all they're wearing your club colours.


What a shit comeback :lol:

Thats because it wasnt my comeback you stupid inbred redbird tw*t. :laughing6:

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:22 pm

I've been offered 2 free tickets for tonight and turned them down.The way the club has carried on since we've been promoted has left a bitter taste in my mouth.A 11 pound increase in the teams first kit for my boy in a season really pissed me off.We're a small working class city at the end of the day and although we might be Premier League we're amateurish off it.We'd have sold out for tonight even without the DVLA fiasco because it's Valencia.But you won't see my arse down there,i'll be in the house watching it on the box and not giving the club a penny of my hard earned cash.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:26 pm

litoblues wrote:if we had beat liverpool in the league cup final. we would not be in the premiership now.. Great day out, but that competition has too many games and travelling, wrecks the players with small squads :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:I was there 20 years ago, cant remember any crowds near 20000, more like 6 to 9000.


The crowds against Admira Wacker (10k) and Standard Liege (6k) reflected the crowds at the time. :thumbup: