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Carl Curtis urges Tan to keep his hands off the footballing

Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:46 pm

In the week that Vincent Tan plans to take his ownership of Cardiff City to 95 per cent .


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.
by Carl Curtis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Carl Curtis urges the owner to keep his hands off the football side of the club
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



But does Tan know the football industry? That’s the question which has to be perplexing Cardiff City fans as we move forward in trying to secure our Premier League status.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



by Carl Curtis
That’s why I believe there needs to be a change at the club and that Tan should defer from football matters and leave the running of the football club to people who have expertise in this field.

There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.

The biggest discussion point is that of our identity. Our colour has changed, the club badge has altered and still today there is a refusal to rule out changing our name.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934
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Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:06 pm

You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:12 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.


Actually Carl and I have different views/opinions on Vincent Tan.
Were the same on Malky, but we were without doubt the opposite on Dave Jones :lol:

Yes we might be in the Premier League thanks to Malky and Tan lending us money,but we have lost our identity and are run totally unprofessional behind the scenes and in the public world, our fans divided beyond belief, were like a comedy show to the outside world.

To me our Identity means more to me, than Premier League Football at all costs.
Tan and Malky dont even spk to each other. :shock:
As to Sam he also made mistakes, Ive debated Sam a 1,000 times.

I want Tan gone ASAP.

Carl wants Tan to stay.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In the week that Vincent Tan plans to take his ownership of Cardiff City to 95 per cent .


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.
by Carl Curtis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Carl Curtis urges the owner to keep his hands off the football side of the club
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



But does Tan know the football industry? That’s the question which has to be perplexing Cardiff City fans as we move forward in trying to secure our Premier League status.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



by Carl Curtis
That’s why I believe there needs to be a change at the club and that Tan should defer from football matters and leave the running of the football club to people who have expertise in this field.

There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.

The biggest discussion point is that of our identity. Our colour has changed, the club badge has altered and still today there is a refusal to rule out changing our name.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Tell me, why have you linked to Carl's article 5 times in one post yet never link to other articles but copy and paste them?

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:18 am

NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In the week that Vincent Tan plans to take his ownership of Cardiff City to 95 per cent .


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.
by Carl Curtis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Carl Curtis urges the owner to keep his hands off the football side of the club
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



But does Tan know the football industry? That’s the question which has to be perplexing Cardiff City fans as we move forward in trying to secure our Premier League status.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



by Carl Curtis
That’s why I believe there needs to be a change at the club and that Tan should defer from football matters and leave the running of the football club to people who have expertise in this field.

There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.

The biggest discussion point is that of our identity. Our colour has changed, the club badge has altered and still today there is a refusal to rule out changing our name.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Tell me, why have you linked to Carl's article 5 times in one post yet never link to other articles but copy and paste them?



NJ, As Carl is my friend, first I bother to read his columns in the Media,some of the other reporters i dont,some i do, It doesnt mean I agree with Carls, but as his friend, I take the time to single out some of his quotes ect, with the other reporters no I dont, as I only know them as a reporters.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:06 am

The idea is that he owns us 95% so he can sell us on for a profit, i dont mind that at all as he will have put us on a good financial
footing if he changes debt to equity.
But there is no guarantee that the next owners will want us in blue (I HOPE THEY DO). :ayatollah:

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:26 am

The only trouble with football men......is most of them are rotten to the core (agents are a prime example).

I remember Alan Sugar taking over Spurs and how shocking he found the whole murky business.

I'm just greatful that we haven't had a transfer embargo slapped on us before the transfer window opens.

And bring on the Mancs. :ayatollah:

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:39 am

Forever Blue wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In the week that Vincent Tan plans to take his ownership of Cardiff City to 95 per cent .


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.
by Carl Curtis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Carl Curtis urges the owner to keep his hands off the football side of the club
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



But does Tan know the football industry? That’s the question which has to be perplexing Cardiff City fans as we move forward in trying to secure our Premier League status.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



by Carl Curtis
That’s why I believe there needs to be a change at the club and that Tan should defer from football matters and leave the running of the football club to people who have expertise in this field.

There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.

The biggest discussion point is that of our identity. Our colour has changed, the club badge has altered and still today there is a refusal to rule out changing our name.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Tell me, why have you linked to Carl's article 5 times in one post yet never link to other articles but copy and paste them?



NJ, As Carl is my friend, first I bother to read his columns in the Media,some of the other reporters i dont,some i do, It doesnt mean I agree with Carls, but as his friend, I take the time to single out some of his quotes ect, with the other reporters no I dont, as I only know them as a reporters.


Im sure that was an answer to some question, just not the one I asked.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:14 am

NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In the week that Vincent Tan plans to take his ownership of Cardiff City to 95 per cent .


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.
by Carl Curtis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Carl Curtis urges the owner to keep his hands off the football side of the club
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



But does Tan know the football industry? That’s the question which has to be perplexing Cardiff City fans as we move forward in trying to secure our Premier League status.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934



by Carl Curtis
That’s why I believe there needs to be a change at the club and that Tan should defer from football matters and leave the running of the football club to people who have expertise in this field.

There are four main reasons why I believe Tan should take a backseat: football matters, administration, identity and embarrassment.

The biggest discussion point is that of our identity. Our colour has changed, the club badge has altered and still today there is a refusal to rule out changing our name.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... st-6312934


Tell me, why have you linked to Carl's article 5 times in one post yet never link to other articles but copy and paste them?



NJ, As Carl is my friend, first I bother to read his columns in the Media,some of the other reporters i dont,some i do, It doesnt mean I agree with Carls, but as his friend, I take the time to single out some of his quotes ect, with the other reporters no I dont, as I only know them as a reporters.


Im sure that was an answer to some question, just not the one I asked.


NJ! anis is practising to be a politician? Well it sounds like it ! :laughing6:

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:35 am

Im still on the fence about Tan, I know that without his investment we may have been out of business by now and my not have a team to support.
I remember many years ago when Accrington Stanly went out of business and they have only just come back again.
I'm very thanks full to Tan for putting his money on the line,when no other person would.
I mean there weren't a Que of people ready to do what Tan has done. I support a Club Cardiff City! I would love them to remain in Blue.
But I support The team of my City , Cardiff City, I would not sell my colors to get to the prem, BUT! I would to save the club from going under.
Why ? cos I'm not selfish ,I want my children and hopefully there children after me to have a Cardiff City football team to support.
We were in and out of court so much that it was like our home ground, and it was only a matter of time before our creditor all filed for there money which would mean Bye Bye Cardiff without Tans Money like it or not ,and that is a fact.
To me the Cardiff City team will always be the Bluebirds that is what is in my head and always has been and will be,that not even Tan can take away from me.
So don't let him take it away from you, or it proves he has won, and beat you.
Do I believe Tan is good for the club ? Yes and No, Yes for his backing , but no for interference with the football side of things. I believe its still too early to say how good Tan is or will be for this club, I believe we will see soon enough how good he is.
To me our identity is not in a color or a badge ( although I would love to go back to Blue again ) but in the fact that the people of Cardiff City still has a team to support and the young people to come after them have a team to support.
I believe Without a backer there wouldn't be a Cardiff City so what price our identity. Is it to be administration or and empty stadium with the doors locked every Saturday with a for sale sign on it. and building firms lining up to build more houses or shops.

Re: Carl Curtis urges the Tan to keep his hands off the foot

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:16 pm

Have I really enjoyed time under Tan ?

Its yes and no but if i had to choose its NO.

The identity of the club far outways any thing else so thats it for me and as a result I want Tan gone.

HE could be a god instead hes a knob :lol:

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:21 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:27 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.


If your not going to say it then I will.

Telling the players to do Tai Chi instead of them listening to music before a game just about sums up Tans interferring.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:30 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.


If your not going to say it then I will.

Telling the players to do Tai Chi instead of them listening to music before a game just about sums up Tans interferring.


What a liberty I bet nobody interferes when he's in the board room doing his wan king

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:10 pm

steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.


If your not going to say it then I will.

Telling the players to do Tai Chi instead of them listening to music before a game just about sums up Tans interferring.



What a liberty I bet nobody interferes when he's in the board room doing his wan king


When it comes to those guys they will watch him do anything.

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:46 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.


If your not going to say it then I will.

Telling the players to do Tai Chi instead of them listening to music before a game just about sums up Tans interferring.



What a liberty I bet nobody interferes when he's in the board room doing his wan king


When it comes to those guys they will watch him do anything.

Bet there's red gloves and red hankies involved ian

Re: Tan should take a backseat:football matters,administrati

Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:12 pm

steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:You say Tan should take a back seat and I understand why you might support this view but answer me this Carl or Annis or whoever really.Now I've been supporting city since 73 and I know there are some on here that can go back further than me and if thats the case when was this football club run any better than it is now.These so called football men over the last 40yrs that I've been a supporter have made a pigs ear of it to put it nicely.When alls said and done even Hamman left us in the shit as never before and he, it has been said by many, is a proper football man.Just wondering,thats all.

What has happened before has happened and nothing can be done or said that can change that history but with Tan it is happening today and I am not the type to just criticise the bad things but like to be fair and I honestly believe what I have written is extremely fair and right.


If your not going to say it then I will.

Telling the players to do Tai Chi instead of them listening to music before a game just about sums up Tans interferring.



What a liberty I bet nobody interferes when he's in the board room doing his wan king


When it comes to those guys they will watch him do anything.

Bet there's red gloves and red hankies involved ian


I hope your letting your imagination run away with you here.