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' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:05 am

Tuesday 12th November 2013.

Strachan wants Caulker to jump ship for Scotland after defender is overlooked by Hodgson for England friendlies

Gordon Strachan is trying to persuade Steven Caulker to turn his back on England and play for Scotland.
The Cardiff defender was overlooked again by Roy Hodgson when he announced the latest squad for Friday's friendly against Chile and the following game against Germany next Tuesday.
Hodgson has said he will use the friendly matches and time he has with the England team in the build-up to the World Cup as a chance for fringe players to earn a seat on the plane to Brazil next summer, after using a core set of players during qualification. But Caulker was not chosen as one of the nine defenders to join up with the team during this international break.

Strachan has been alerted to Caulker's eligibility to represent Scotland – who he qualifies to play for through his grandmother – and will ring the player in an attempt to convince him to join his team.
The former Tottenham centre-back has played for England Under 19s and Under 21s but only featured in one friendly, against Sweden, for the senior side where he scored on his debut. Under FIFA rules a player can still represent another nation, provided they are eligible, if they have not played in a competitive match for another country.

Roy Hodgson decided against a call-up for Caulker despite his good form for Cardiff
The latest player to switch allegiance in this way was the Brazilian-born Diego Costa, who played in two friendlies for his home country but last month signed documentation to play for Spain where the 25-year-old has played club football since 2009.
Caulker was tempted by the prospect of representing Scotland two years ago when Craig Levein was in charge. He played for Team GB in the Olympics last year and has always stated in the past it was his 'dream' to represent England. But with his hopes of that happening fading the 21-year-old could be more receptive to Strachan's approach.

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:55 am

Inagine we had sum1 like him for wales i would cream my y-fronts, we havent had a decent centre half for yrs

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:04 am

As good as he clearly is, I'd rather he didn't.

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:09 am

He won't. He's clearly got an England future.

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:14 am

He is still young yet, his future is with england

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:35 am

Caulker has already played for England in a friendly against Sweden where he scored

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:36 am

adr wrote:Caulker has already played for England in a friendly against Sweden where he scored


It was only a friendly though. Stupidly, the rules say you are only tied to a country once you have played in a competitive fixture for them.

Re: Caulker could switch to Scotland

Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:20 pm

Seems a stupid rule tbh, I think he would prefer England and certainly in the future as MM said he will stand a good chance

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:27 pm

It would be a huge shame if he did pick Scotland over England.

That said, I can't see it happening. As bemusing as Hodgson's decision to not include him in the current squad is, Caulker is still a young footballer with an England future.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:42 pm

Better than Jagielka anyway. Why he was left out amazes me

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:39 pm

Once he signs for Man utd he'll become England's first choice defender.

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:23 pm

CantonJack wrote:Better than Jagielka anyway. Why he was left out amazes me


I've said it before, and now I'll say it again as you are also in the Premiership. No Cardiff or Swansea player will be selected to play for England while we are in the Premier league. You can have has many sponsors for the league as you want, but ultimately it is The English FA Premier league and they do not want Welsh clubs in it! I know we are bitter rivals, but that aside, on performances over the last 2 years, Routledge, Britton and Dyer have deserved their cap. Especially considering the selections England have made. But to me Caulker is a different matter. Here we have a potential future England captain, and they have left him out of a squad for meaningless friendlies when it should be a time to get him on board and used to the England national team set up, but they leave him out? Believe it, they are slowly but surely sending out a clear message that if your English and sign for the Welsh bastards then you will NOT play for England! :(

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:24 pm

64JACK wrote:
CantonJack wrote:Better than Jagielka anyway. Why he was left out amazes me


I've said it before, and now I'll say it again as you are also in the Premiership. No Cardiff or Swansea player will be selected to play for England while we are in the Premier league. You can have has many sponsors for the league as you want, but ultimately it is The English FA Premier league and they do not want Welsh clubs in it! I know we are bitter rivals, but that aside, on performances over the last 2 years, Routledge, Britton and Dyer have deserved their cap. Especially considering the selections England have made. But to me Caulker is a different matter. Here we have a potential future England captain, and they have left him out of a squad for meaningless friendlies when it should be a time to get him on board and used to the England national team set up, but they leave him out? Believe it, they are slowly but surely sending out a clear message that if your English and sign for the Welsh bastards then you will NOT play for England! :(


What utter nonsense. :lol: we've had an England international only recently!

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:26 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:
CantonJack wrote:Better than Jagielka anyway. Why he was left out amazes me


I've said it before, and now I'll say it again as you are also in the Premiership. No Cardiff or Swansea player will be selected to play for England while we are in the Premier league. You can have has many sponsors for the league as you want, but ultimately it is The English FA Premier league and they do not want Welsh clubs in it! I know we are bitter rivals, but that aside, on performances over the last 2 years, Routledge, Britton and Dyer have deserved their cap. Especially considering the selections England have made. But to me Caulker is a different matter. Here we have a potential future England captain, and they have left him out of a squad for meaningless friendlies when it should be a time to get him on board and used to the England national team set up, but they leave him out? Believe it, they are slowly but surely sending out a clear message that if your English and sign for the Welsh bastards then you will NOT play for England! :(


What utter nonsense. :lol: we've had an England international only recently!


Ye. Jay Boothroyd when you were in the Championship! :thumbright:
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Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:26 pm

He's good enough to play for England and he will again. I am also of the believe that to play in one World cup game for the country of your birth would equate to more than 50 or so frivolous friendly games for a country you don't have a real connection with.

I was immensely proud when Bothroyd turn out for England and I will be if Caulker does so while being a bluebird.

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:31 pm

64JACK wrote:
Ye. Jay Boothroyd when you were in the Championship! :thumbright:


Which makes absolutely no difference. You normally talk sense, but that post is totally bitter about your boys not getting England calls.

Get a grip. :lol:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:39 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Ye. Jay Boothroyd when you were in the Championship! :thumbright:


Which makes absolutely no difference. You normally talk sense, but that post is totally bitter about your boys not getting England calls.

Get a grip. :lol:


Of course it makes a difference Barry. The fact that you were a championship club and not an FA premiership club makes a lot of difference. I'm certainly not bitter about 'our boys' not being called up. I really couldn't give a toss to be honest. But I'm sure the players do. And thats why I honestly believe that the message is slowly but very surely being sent out that if you play for a Welsh club in the English FA premier league, then you will not be considered too play for England. The evidence IS on my side no matter how you may disagree. ;)
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Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:39 pm

Never going to happen

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:41 pm

64JACK wrote:
Of course it makes a difference Barry. The fact that you were a championship club and not an FA premiership club makes a lot of difference. I'm certainly not bitter about 'our boys' not being called up. I really couldn't give a toss to be honest. But I'm sure the players do. And thats why I honestly believe that the message is slowly but very surely being sent out that if you play for a Welsh club in the English FA premier league, then you will not be considered too play for England. The evidence IS on my side no matter how you may disagree. ;)


Absolutely no difference... The championship is also an FA competition, you silly fool. :lol: :lol:

There's absolutely NO evidence at all - just some over rated Englishmen who were nowhere near the England team anyway. :roll: :lol:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:44 pm

64JACK wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Ye. Jay Boothroyd when you were in the Championship! :thumbright:


Which makes absolutely no difference. You normally talk sense, but that post is totally bitter about your boys not getting England calls.

Get a grip. :lol:


Of course it makes a difference Barry. The fact that you were a championship club and not an FA premiership club makes a lot of difference. I'm certainly not bitter about 'our boys' not being called up. I really couldn't give a toss to be honest. But I'm sure the players do. And thats why I honestly believe that the message is slowly but very surely being sent out that if you play for a Welsh club in the English FA premier league, then you will not be considered too play for England. The evidence IS on my side no matter how you may disagree. ;)


He's already been called up once to England since he's played for us...

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:54 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Of course it makes a difference Barry. The fact that you were a championship club and not an FA premiership club makes a lot of difference. I'm certainly not bitter about 'our boys' not being called up. I really couldn't give a toss to be honest. But I'm sure the players do. And thats why I honestly believe that the message is slowly but very surely being sent out that if you play for a Welsh club in the English FA premier league, then you will not be considered too play for England. The evidence IS on my side no matter how you may disagree. ;)


Absolutely no difference... The championship is also an FA competition, you silly fool. :lol: :lol:

There's absolutely NO evidence at all - just some over rated Englishmen who were nowhere near the England team anyway. :roll: :lol:


Barry. Please do not call me a fool. Especially when you make such a fundemantal mistake of saying the championship comes under FA jurisdiction. It does not, it is part of the football league. However,even if it was, you still missing the point aren't you? Over rated Englishmen? They are all over rated Barry, but very strange that you can be over rated and play for any other club than a Welsh one and still get a call up, but if you play for Cardiff or Swansea it ain't gonna happen. Now I've put a perfectly good arguement here Barry, yes, the evidence is there but you refuse to look at it when it's staring you in the face! :thumbright:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:58 pm

64JACK wrote:Barry. Please do not call me a fool. Especially when you make such a fundemantal mistake of saying the championship comes under FA jurisdiction. It does not, it is part of the football league. However,even if it was, you still missing the point aren't you? Over rated Englishmen? They are all over rated Barry, but very strange that you can be over rated and play for any other club than a Welsh one and still get a call up, but if you play for Cardiff or Swansea it ain't gonna happen. Now I've put a perfectly good arguement here Barry, yes, the evidence is there but you refuse to look at it when it's staring you in the face! :thumbright:


You are very much a fool, with your bitter nonsense as reasons for the Swansea players not getting a call up (ignoring the fact that they simply weren't good enough :lol:)

All your evidence is make believe, where as my evidence is concrete.. Caulker has already been called up this season whilst we were in the premiership.

What a fool. :lol:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:59 pm

Aramore wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Ye. Jay Boothroyd when you were in the Championship! :thumbright:


Which makes absolutely no difference. You normally talk sense, but that post is totally bitter about your boys not getting England calls.

Get a grip. :lol:


Of course it makes a difference Barry. The fact that you were a championship club and not an FA premiership club makes a lot of difference. I'm certainly not bitter about 'our boys' not being called up. I really couldn't give a toss to be honest. But I'm sure the players do. And thats why I honestly believe that the message is slowly but very surely being sent out that if you play for a Welsh club in the English FA premier league, then you will not be considered too play for England. The evidence IS on my side no matter how you may disagree. ;)


He's already been called up once to England since he's played for us...


Sorry, no he hasn't! :thumbright:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:01 pm

Sorry - no he hasn't. :thumbright:


Erm - yes he has. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-5826018

This blows your nonsense theory out of the water. Face it, your players simply weren't good enough. :laughing6:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:03 pm

Jack64 just your average dull Welsh nationalist who supports a Welsh based English league club.

Support Garden Village if you want a Welsh league team.

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:06 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
64JACK wrote:Barry. Please do not call me a fool. Especially when you make such a fundemantal mistake of saying the championship comes under FA jurisdiction. It does not, it is part of the football league. However,even if it was, you still missing the point aren't you? Over rated Englishmen? They are all over rated Barry, but very strange that you can be over rated and play for any other club than a Welsh one and still get a call up, but if you play for Cardiff or Swansea it ain't gonna happen. Now I've put a perfectly good arguement here Barry, yes, the evidence is there but you refuse to look at it when it's staring you in the face! :thumbright:


You are very much a fool, with your bitter nonsense as reasons for the Swansea players not getting a call up (ignoring the fact that they simply weren't good enough :lol:)

All your evidence is make believe, where as my evidence is concrete.. Caulker has already been called up this season whilst we were in the premiership.

What a fool. :lol:


Only a fool would believe the Championship comes under the Fa! (ROOKIE ERROR) :laughing6: I've already told you that I couldn't give a toss about Swansea players not being selected? Really, why would I give a toss? How is your 'evidence' concrete? You haven't provided any! Go to bed! :laughing6:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:10 pm

64JACK wrote:
Only a fool would believe the Championship comes under the Fa! (ROOKIE ERROR) :laughing6: I've already told you that I couldn't give a toss about Swansea players not being selected? Really, why would I give a toss? How is your 'evidence' concrete? You haven't provided any! Go to bed! :laughing6:


You obviously DO care, or you wouldn't have fabricated complete nonsense about the FA not selecting Welsh club players for England... :lol: :lol: :lol:

How is my evidence concrete? Quite simple - because it happened. Caulker was called up to England squad whilst we were in the Premiership.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-5826018

What a fool. :lol:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:11 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Jack64 just your average dull Welsh nationalist who supports a Welsh based English league club.

Support Garden Village if you want a Welsh league team.


You pissed or having a bout of alzheimers? What the f**k are you on about? :laughing6:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:16 pm

64JACK conveniently ignoring the one link with evidence that blows his ridiculous fantasy to bits... :laughing6:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-5826018

Your over rated English lads just weren't good enough. :thumbup:

Re: ' Steven Caulker could switch to Scotland '

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:17 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Sorry - no he hasn't. :thumbright:


Erm - yes he has. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-5826018

This blows your nonsense theory out of the water. Face it, your players simply weren't good enough. :laughing6:


He didn't play, and now he hasn't been called up for meaningless friendlies despite some outstanding performances? He wont play for England whilst he is with you. Bookmark it Barry instead of going on about how bitter I am about Swansea players when I have clearly explained to you that I am not. I really couldn't give a monkeys toss! Are you not getting that? I'm all for debate pal, but things just don't sink in with you do they? No wonder even your own fans think your a tw*t! :laughing6: