Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:13 pm
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Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:37 pm
Syntax Design wrote:To be honest, Williams is a quality player and had he opted to play for England he could have been at a top team like Arsenal or Liverpool now plying his trade alongside a player of some credibility. .
Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:43 pm
paulh_85 wrote:you cant seriously believe that can you?
Bale is welsh you know... didnt stop real madrid signing him, not sure i catch your drift here.
Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:47 pm
Syntax Design wrote:paulh_85 wrote:you cant seriously believe that can you?
Bale is welsh you know... didnt stop real madrid signing him, not sure i catch your drift here.
Bale had to prove he was world class before the hype came along. English players don't have to do so because the media hype them up as soon as they've stopped wearing nappies. There's numerous proof of that - Liverpool signing Shelvey from Charlton is one perfect example. English players all get the same treatment - they build them up and state they are amazing and then use that own hype and expectation as a tool to beat them with they make a mistake or don't live up to the expectations placed on them.
If Bale was English he'd have been recruited far earlier than he had done by a top English club at the time like Manchester United as they have done with Wilfried Zaha.
Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:00 pm
paulh_85 wrote:i get what you are getting at i suppose, but i wouldnt put ashley williams in that bracket. He is a good defender sure, not good enough for a top four club imo and although Arsenal were apparently sniffing around him (as a back up no doubt) they didnt big.
Brenden Rodgers obviously doesnt think him good enough for Liverpool either or he would have picked him up too.