Angel Rangel says Medel is "overpriced"

Well, he's getting snapped.

"Pitbull, f**k him up, Pitbull, Pitbull, f**k him up!"

How anyone can suggest otherwise i dont know.

How anyone can suggest otherwise i dont know.

What I find funny is that he calls Medel overpriced (whom commentators/pundits that I've listened to speaking about him say how much of a steal he is even at 9.5m), whereas he says nothing about the so called 13m striker Wilfried Bony.

How anyone can suggest otherwise i dont know.

What I find funny is that he calls Medel overpriced (whom commentators/pundits that I've listened to speaking about him say how much of a steal he is even at 9.5m), whereas he says nothing about the so called 13m striker Wilfried Bony.

The same commentators and pundits that thought Swansea were top 4 contenders? when will people learn that the majority of these pundits are buffoons?

£13m for a striker with a 1 in 2.5 games strike rate in the Premier league is not bad at all, goal scorers come with a premium, they are rare. defensive midfielders of sufficient quality are 10 a penny, we have two we paid nothing for. Its easier to destroy than create, hence why defensive players are cheaper.... Or at least should be.

How anyone can suggest otherwise i dont know.

What I find funny is that he calls Medel overpriced (whom commentators/pundits that I've listened to speaking about him say how much of a steal he is even at 9.5m), whereas he says nothing about the so called 13m striker Wilfried Bony.

Come on now, why would he say that about a team mate?

How anyone can suggest otherwise i dont know.

What I find funny is that he calls Medel overpriced (whom commentators/pundits that I've listened to speaking about him say how much of a steal he is even at 9.5m), whereas he says nothing about the so called 13m striker Wilfried Bony.

The same commentators and pundits that thought Swansea were top 4 contenders? when will people learn that the majority of these pundits are buffoons?

£13m for a striker with a 1 in 2.5 games strike rate in the Premier league is not bad at all, goal scorers come with a premium, they are rare. defensive midfielders of sufficient quality are 10 a penny, we have two we paid nothing for. Its easier to destroy than create, hence why defensive players are cheaper.... Or at least should be.

To be fair I've only heard Jamie Redknapp say he thought you were top 4 contenders, and he's a tool.

Medel is a quality player. You don't get someone known for regularly marking Lionel Messi out of a game on the cheap. As for Bony, well I'd want him to do a hell of a lot more on and off the ball if we'd paid 13m for him.

To be fair I've only heard Jamie Redknapp say he thought you were top 4 contenders, and he's a tool.

Medel is a quality player. You don't get someone known for regularly marking Lionel Messi out of a game on the cheap. As for Bony, well I'd want him to do a hell of a lot more on and off the ball if we'd paid 13m for him.

Medel may be a quality player but hes currently not showing it, not even close.

Veron was a quality player but he was crap when he came over here as are countless other players that ebb away into obscurity.

To be fair I've only heard Jamie Redknapp say he thought you were top 4 contenders, and he's a tool.

Medel is a quality player. You don't get someone known for regularly marking Lionel Messi out of a game on the cheap. As for Bony, well I'd want him to do a hell of a lot more on and off the ball if we'd paid 13m for him.

Medel may be a quality player but hes currently not showing it, not even close.

Veron was a quality player but he was crap when he came over here as are countless other players that ebb away into obscurity.

How is Medel not showing it then Roathy? He's doing everything he was brought in to do. Forget the stats, if you watch him every game, you can see how good he really is. Breaking up attacks, playing nice balls to the forwards/wingers (good in possession) etc etc.

Without Medel we'd have a few less points on the board, easy.

If he was playing for Swansea though £9.5m would be the best bargain since Michu

To be fair I've only heard Jamie Redknapp say he thought you were top 4 contenders, and he's a tool.

Medel is a quality player. You don't get someone known for regularly marking Lionel Messi out of a game on the cheap. As for Bony, well I'd want him to do a hell of a lot more on and off the ball if we'd paid 13m for him.

Medel may be a quality player but hes currently not showing it, not even close.

Veron was a quality player but he was crap when he came over here as are countless other players that ebb away into obscurity.

How is Medel not showing it then Roathy? He's doing everything he was brought in to do. Forget the stats, if you watch him every game, you can see how good he really is. Breaking up attacks, playing nice balls to the forwards/wingers (good in possession) etc etc.

We play on Sundays. Ive watched the majority of your games and hes been nothing short of average. You say forget the stats and then bring up things like breaking up play and passing. Thats like saying Bony scores loads but dont look at the stats.

He has a lower passing % than both Canas and Britton, lower blocks per game than both Canas and Britton, lower interception rate than Canas, lower duels won rate than both Canas and Britton. Hes looked incredibly static and a tad lazy to me, carrying a bit of beef too.

And our boys arent worth £11m of anybodies money.

MEDEL is overpriced but Bony isn't, jog on Roathie.

13 million you should expect way more and you know it. Stop defending it.

Medel isn't showing it? Roathie, you are thick as dish water.

Also don't know if this article is true or not but it is only a way to get to Medel and try and get him to put in some stupid challenges.

Canas has most likely let all the team know about what happened before and this is just an attempt to get him overhyped to make a stupid challenge on Sunday, hopefully Medel will ignore this if he knows about it and just tries to be careful but don't stop the challenges.

MEDEL is overpriced but Bony isn't,

agreed.

13 million you should expect way more and you know it. Stop defending it.

Medel isn't showing it?

agreed

Also don't know if this article is true or not but it is only a way to get to Medel and try and get him to put in some stupid challenges.

Canas has most likely let all the team know about what happened before and this is just an attempt to get him overhyped to make a stupid challenge on Sunday, hopefully Medel will ignore this if he knows about it and just tries to be careful but don't stop the challenges.

or he could just be making a clear observation?

To be fair I've only heard Jamie Redknapp say he thought you were top 4 contenders, and he's a tool.

Medel is a quality player. You don't get someone known for regularly marking Lionel Messi out of a game on the cheap. As for Bony, well I'd want him to do a hell of a lot more on and off the ball if we'd paid 13m for him.

Medel may be a quality player but hes currently not showing it, not even close.

Veron was a quality player but he was crap when he came over here as are countless other players that ebb away into obscurity.

How is Medel not showing it then Roathy? He's doing everything he was brought in to do. Forget the stats, if you watch him every game, you can see how good he really is. Breaking up attacks, playing nice balls to the forwards/wingers (good in possession) etc etc.

We play on Sundays. Ive watched the majority of your games and hes been nothing short of average. You say forget the stats and then bring up things like breaking up play and passing. Thats like saying Bony scores loads but dont look at the stats.

He has a lower passing % than both Canas and Britton, lower blocks per game than both Canas and Britton, lower interception rate than Canas, lower duels won rate than both Canas and Britton. Hes looked incredibly static and a tad lazy to me, carrying a bit of beef too.

And our boys arent worth £11m of anybodies money.

Not sure how he looks static. He's been told to do a job, and he does it very well indeed. As Canton Jack says, if we didn't have him, we'd be a few points worse off. Like at Fulham, he completely took Ruiz out of the game. Stopped David Silva from doing anything too v Man City.

We'll see who performs better come Sunday. My money's on Medel.

MEDEL is overpriced but Bony isn't, jog on Roathie.

13 million you should expect way more and you know it. Stop defending it.

Medel isn't showing it? Roathie, you are thick as dish water.

Also don't know if this article is true or not but it is only a way to get to Medel and try and get him to put in some stupid challenges.

Canas has most likely let all the team know about what happened before and this is just an attempt to get him overhyped to make a stupid challenge on Sunday, hopefully Medel will ignore this if he knows about it and just tries to be careful but don't stop the challenges.

Couldn't have put it better, Dando.

MEDEL is overpriced but Bony isn't,

agreed.

13 million you should expect way more and you know it. Stop defending it.

Medel isn't showing it?

agreed

Also don't know if this article is true or not but it is only a way to get to Medel and try and get him to put in some stupid challenges.

Canas has most likely let all the team know about what happened before and this is just an attempt to get him overhyped to make a stupid challenge on Sunday, hopefully Medel will ignore this if he knows about it and just tries to be careful but don't stop the challenges.

or he could just be making a clear observation?

Jealousy hurts doesn't it Roathie?

And make a false observation, we could say the same about Bony, not even worth 5 million on showing.

Jealous? Yeah gutted

You certainly could say that yes. However a goal every 200 mins would suggest otherwise.

Have to agree with Angel unfortunately. Beginning of the season I slated Bony but he's doing his job well to be fair to him. Medel has gotten consistently worse as the season has gone on and Im not knocking him as I believe he's a victim of Malky's tactics and system but other than 2 games he hasn't done nothing to warrant such a price tag.

In hindsight, knowing we could have signed Huddlestone (might not be a name but does the job) and wingers with money left over irks me truth be told. Medel isn't being allowed to express his true game because the tactics mean he's being suffocated in the middle of the park and can't distribute it as he did at Sevilla.

Malky needs to drop Gunnarsson and play Medel alone in there and allow Medel to craft and play intricate balls through. Still do not get why a player who had Messi on lock down needs a baby sitter in and around him. Medel has the potential to live up to his transfer fee and put in more consistent performances but as of current you are deluding yourself if you think thats the case.

Have to agree with Angel unfortunately. Beginning of the season I slated Bony but he's doing his job well to be fair to him. Medel has gotten consistently worse as the season has gone on and Im not knocking him as I believe he's a victim of Malky's tactics and system but other than 2 games he hasn't done nothing to warrant such a price tag.

In hindsight, knowing we could have signed Huddlestone (might not be a name but does the job) and wingers with money left over irks me truth be told. Medel isn't being allowed to express his true game because the tactics mean he's being suffocated in the middle of the park and can't distribute it as he did at Sevilla.

Malky needs to drop Gunnarsson and play Medel alone in there and allow Medel to craft and play intricate balls through. Still do not get why a player who had Messi on lock down needs a baby sitter in and around him. Medel has the potential to live up to his transfer fee and put in more consistent performances but as of current you are deluding yourself if you think thats the case.

Malky did drop Gunnarsson on Saturday?

Have to agree with Angel unfortunately. Beginning of the season I slated Bony but he's doing his job well to be fair to him. Medel has gotten consistently worse as the season has gone on and Im not knocking him as I believe he's a victim of Malky's tactics and system but other than 2 games he hasn't done nothing to warrant such a price tag.

In hindsight, knowing we could have signed Huddlestone (might not be a name but does the job) and wingers with money left over irks me truth be told. Medel isn't being allowed to express his true game because the tactics mean he's being suffocated in the middle of the park and can't distribute it as he did at Sevilla.

Malky needs to drop Gunnarsson and play Medel alone in there and allow Medel to craft and play intricate balls through. Still do not get why a player who had Messi on lock down needs a baby sitter in and around him. Medel has the potential to live up to his transfer fee and put in more consistent performances but as of current you are deluding yourself if you think thats the case.

Spot on once again Barnett.

Barnett you have been quite good with posts lately but you are letting yourself down on this one.

Medel is living up to his price tag and will continue to do so.

Jealous? Yeah gutted

You certainly could say that yes. However a goal every 200 mins would suggest otherwise.

Another stat that's misleading! Yes goal every 200mins cup games inc, but how many goals in premier per minutes? 1 every 900? Or whatever it is ! Like said before stats are for people to miss lead people for own benefits? Why not quote goals prry min in premier? Because doesn't look as good maybe?

Malky did drop Gunnarsson on Saturday?

I said drop him and play him there alone. On Saturday he replaced Gunnarsson with another babysitter. Its ridiculous and I am getting fed up of it.

That's that sorted then Rangel's gunna get his legs broke on Sunday

Not interested what any jack b*stard says about our players

Jealous? Yeah gutted

You certainly could say that yes. However a goal every 200 mins would suggest otherwise.

Another stat that's misleading! Yes goal every 200mins cup games inc, but how many goals in premier per minutes? 1 every 900? Or whatever it is ! Like said before stats are for people to miss lead people for own benefits? Why not quote goals prry min in premier? Because doesn't look as good maybe?

Nope thats premier league

If i included the other games it would be closer to a goal a game.

Not newsworthy.

Haha whats wrong you got no mind to think for yourself?, what the newspapers tell you thats what you think is it? wheres you free will?

Wonder whether Rangel thought Allen was worth £15m

Who cares what a jack thinks, player or armchair stato's. MM rates him very highly and thinks he's worth paying the money. He's 9 games into a new league so lets see how he performs over the season. The Pitbull clearly has pedigree so I think he'll prove all the doubters wrong

This is all just paper talk to fuel the battle on Sunday. Pinch of salt required, if not a handful

Wonder whether Rangel thought Allen was worth £15m

Who cares what a jack thinks, player or armchair stato's. MM rates him very highly and thinks he's worth paying the money. He's 9 games into a new league so lets see how he performs over the season. The Pitbull clearly has pedigree so I think he'll prove all the doubters wrong

This is all just paper talk to fuel the battle on Sunday. Pinch of salt required, if not a handful

Allen certainly wasnt and am sure he also thinks so. At the time when you lot were telling us hiw gutted we were and our impending doom we were rubbing our hands together id rather Medel for £11m than Allen for £15m so there is at least that

My thread is running all season and have said if hes worth his money then it will show, my point is that as of yet, its not great.

But agree everything will be hammed up from here til Kick off, and after it id imagine.

What Rangel actually said....
Rangel is regularly a reference point for his fellow countrymen at the Liberty Stadium, who turn to him for advice on a range of subjects.
From restaurant recommendations to buying a television, Rangel has become a go-to man for Swansea's Spanish contingent having spent six years in Wales.
And his services also extend to derby advice.
Hernandez, Michu, Flores, Alejandro Pozuelo, Jose Canas, Jordi Amat and Alvaro Vazquez have all played against near neighbours in their homeland.
But Rangel is bracing them for a whole new challenge at the Cardiff City Stadium in three days' time.
"They have asked about it," said the right-back.
"At (Real) Betis, Canas and Pozuelo have played against Sevilla and that's similar.
"They know it's always a crazy one. But they haven't experienced it here yet and we are talking about something even more.
"Seville is a city, but Wales is a country and it is in the Premier League.
"There is extra spice in it and it's going to be really exciting — probably the biggest ever.
"The most important thing is to win it."
Rangel is well-qualified to explain the raw emotion and crippling tension that engulfs with a Welsh derby.
Since the fixture returned following a nine-year absence in 2008, he has played all but 12 minutes of the seven matches.
Those encounters have seen red cards and a bleeding ref, controversial penalties and last-minute winners, elation and despair.
"I have said that previously we have had trouble off the pitch, things like fans throwing coins," said Rangel.
"On the pitch there is the intensity that silly fouls can easily become a fight.
"It's a derby and the most important thing is to stick together and enjoy it.
"At Cardiff it's a difficult one, we know that. I don't think you need any motivation, we know what it means to the fans and to the city.
"Whoever wins is going to be over the moon.
"We know it's only three points but we especially want to win it for the fans."
One of Swansea's La Liga imports already has derby experience against a key man for Cardiff.
Canas clashed with £11 million record Bluebirds signing Gary Medel in the Seville derby last season.
Real Betis were trailing 3-2 to Medel's Seville when the Chilean raised his hands during a fracas and Canas hit the deck.
Medel was sent off and a minute from time Betis snatched an equaliser.
"He (Medel) is a hard working player. He's a holding player and aggressive, we know that. He likes contact with other players," said Rangel.
"He's had an experience with Canas before and got sent off.
"That shows you that in these kind of games there is a lot of craziness and intensity.
"I think Cardiff paid a lot money for him considering he's a holding midfielder not a goalscorer."
Another link between the sides sees Steven Caulker line-up against the club where he spent the 2011-12 season on loan.
The centre-back partnered Ashley Williams at the heart of defence for much of Swansea's first Premier League campaign.
After returning to Spurs last term, the England international made a surprise £8 million move to Cardiff in the summer.
"For us he did great. Even at a young age he showed he had great potential at the back," said Rangel.
"I think he's done well at Cardiff along with Gary Medel as well — the two record signings.
"They are good at the back and up front we know they also have quality players like (Peter) Whittingham and (Craig) Bellamy.
"I thought Steven Caulker was going to sign for a bigger team, but he signed for them so fair play."
Cardiff head into Sunday's game following a 0-0 draw with Norwich last weekend.
After winning the Championship last season, they have settled reasonably well to life in the Premier League.
A win against Manchester City in August remains Malky Mackay's standout result and provides a warning about how effective Cardiff can be at home.
"They've done all right. They won a game they didn't expect to win against Manchester City and they drew last Saturday away from home," said Rangel.
"They have done okay. For a team who have just come up it's always difficult to adjust.
"They haven't had easy games, but they picked up a good point at Everton as well.
"There's still a long way to go but they are looking good."
Swansea can also be satisfied with ninth place in the Premier League.
The last two games against Kuban Krasnodar and West Ham have brought somewhat disappointing draws, but nothing to match the gloom that swept around the Liberty after the last derby.
In February 2011 Craig Bellamy's late goal handed Cardiff their first win in Landore and saw bragging rights head east down the M4.
"We know it's only three points, but we also know the emotion of this game," added Rangel.
"The fans are always excited about it, but we have to keep cool because you can't get too excited if you have to play 90 minutes.
"It's going to be a tough one, especially away from home, but hopefully our extra experience in the Premier League is going to help us.
"I've played in seven of them and it's been pretty level in all the games.
"I think it's going to be a loud game, really intense, with a lot of emotions around.
"We want a win to climb up the table — but it's mainly for the fans."