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A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:17 am

We are lacking in every area apart from goal keeper. We will soon have five, six or even more put past us. :oops:

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:26 am

Rita Pidsdale wrote:We are lacking in every area apart from goal keeper. We will soon have five, six or even more put past us. :oops:


Cant see it myself, but hey ho whatever tickles your bollocks

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:31 am

Every team gets 6 put past them in the prem you f*cking stupid clown, even arsenal, utd, liverpool, etc have all conceded that many over the last couple seasons..

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:42 am

9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:45 am

Rita Pidsdale wrote:We are lacking in every area apart from goal keeper. We will soon have five, six or even more put past us. :oops:


Not against a bottom half side but possibly against an arsenal or man city away . Expect that though to be honest . Virtually every club that comes up suffers it . Remember Pompey being clapped off after being trounced at home by arsenal ( I think ) . Not sure our team would get the same reception in similar circumstances unfortunately . Ok, if there is no effort there then perhaps ( each to their own on the booing your own team debate ) but if you are simply outclassed by one of these top sides there is not a lot you can do .

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:47 am

Just wish we had signed a goalscorer and gave this campaign a real go instead of playing for draws.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:03 am

Your keeper has saved u big beating's in a few games.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:26 am

SL69 wrote:Your keeper has saved u big beating's in a few games.


Goalkeeper doing his job shocker

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:35 am

Gonzo wrote:
SL69 wrote:Your keeper has saved u big beating's in a few games.


Goalkeeper doing his job shocker


:lol:

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:49 am

Funny how its used as an insult to Coleman "bale bailed him out" etc yet when said about Cardiff then it doesnt work in that way :laughing6:

Just saying

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:57 pm

thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting

Attempts! Ffs how many on target is the important figure not shots that hit the seagull flying in the air!

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:03 pm

Rita Pidsdale wrote:We are lacking in every area apart from goal keeper. We will soon have five, six or even more put past us. :oops:

Positive :roll:

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:05 pm

thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting


Can I ask how old you are?

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:10 pm

thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting


Its no coincidence that the teams that create the most chances will be at the top end of the league and the ones that concede the most will be at the bottom end.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:16 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting


Its no coincidence that the teams that create the most chances will be at the top end of the league and the ones that concede the most will be at the bottom end.


Who gives a toss about stats. The only stats that count are goals scored and conceded. Simple

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:25 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting


Its no coincidence that the teams that create the most chances will be at the top end of the league and the ones that concede the most will be at the bottom end.


Who gives a toss about stats. The only stats that count are goals scored and conceded. Simple


And how are goals scored and conceded? By the opposition shooting.

Like i said the more chances you create per game the higher you tend to finish, the less you create the lower you tend to finish. They are clearly linked.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:26 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:9 games
5 teams have had 20 or more shots at goal against us
Norwich had 31 :shock:
We have had 86 attempts at goal
We have had 174 attempts against us
Teams are averaging 19.3 attempts at goal every game . That isn't good enough and your right if a teams striker is on form we could take a pasting


Its no coincidence that the teams that create the most chances will be at the top end of the league and the ones that concede the most will be at the bottom end.


Who gives a toss about stats. The only stats that count are goals scored and conceded. Simple


And how are goals scored and conceded? By the opposition shooting.

Like i said the more chances you create per game the higher you tend to finish, the less you create the lower you tend to finish. They are clearly linked.


Only if you convert. Otherwise they aren't. If you have a leaky defence, you could score far more and finish lower.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:30 pm

Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:31 pm

RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


& it's expected that we will be in the lower reaches of the table... Hence not having so many chances as those towards the top... :?

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:34 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


& it's expected that we will be in the lower reaches of the table... Hence not having so many chances as those towards the top... :?


Of course, the link is plain to see :lol:

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:36 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


& it's expected that we will be in the lower reaches of the table... Hence not having so many chances as those towards the top... :?


Of course, the link is plain to see :lol:


What? You just said it was irrelevant :lol:

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:37 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


& it's expected that we will be in the lower reaches of the table... Hence not having so many chances as those towards the top... :?


Exactly. So thats my point really.

So when a team like Norwich who is also expected to be down there sticks up 30 odd shots and however many in target then thats got to go down as a concern.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:37 pm

RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


There is also a link between goals scored to goals conceded when seeing how many points you get.
A goal scored more than a goal conceded equals 3 points
The same goals scored or conceded equals a draw and 1 point
Less goals scored than conceded equals a loss and no points
This equates to where you are in the league. This is a fact not an opinion.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:38 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


& it's expected that we will be in the lower reaches of the table... Hence not having so many chances as those towards the top... :?


Of course, the link is plain to see :lol:


What? You just said it was irrelevant :lol:


I'm being sarcastic.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:41 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


There is also a link between goals scored to goals conceded when seeing how many points you get.

spot on. But as we have already established the base stat to those ones are chances created and conceded as you cant have a goal without a chance.

A goal scored more than a goal conceded equals 3 points

correct and that goal would have come from a chance created.

The same goals scored or conceded equals a draw and 1 point

same as above

Less goals scored than conceded equals a loss and no points

ditto

This equates to where you are in the league. This is a fact not an opinion.

then you agree with me.


Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:45 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:Please understand. Its not an opinion im stating, im telling you facts.

There is a trend between the higher you finish being directly linked to the more chances your team creates. This isnt even up for debate, its a fact.


There is also a link between goals scored to goals conceded when seeing how many points you get.

spot on. But as we have already established the base stat to those ones are chances created and conceded as you cant have a goal without a chance.

A goal scored more than a goal conceded equals 3 points

correct and that goal would have come from a chance created.

The same goals scored or conceded equals a draw and 1 point

same as above

Less goals scored than conceded equals a loss and no points

ditto

This equates to where you are in the league. This is a fact not an opinion.

then you agree with me.




But the key stat is chances converted, not chances made. That's where me and you differ. That's what I like about football, dominance of possession and chances created mean nothing what so ever at times.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:49 pm

But it isnt. If there were no shots then there would be no goals stats for you to look at.

The base stat is chances created, the more chances created the more you score, the more you score the higher up you tend to finish. And the opposite of course generally works the other way.

The key bit is the first one (chances) because of you didnt have the first one then you wouldnt have the 2nd (goals) or 3rd (wins).

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:51 pm

RoathMagic wrote:But it isnt. If there were no shots then there would be no goals stats for you to look at.

The base stat is chances created, the more chances created the more you score, the more you score the higher up you tend to finish. And the opposite of course generally works the other way.

The key bit is the first one (chances) because of you didnt have the first one then you wouldnt have the 2nd (goals) or 3rd (wins).


It is that's correct, but you have changed your stance on this subject now. You claimed earlier that Norwich had more chances and possession so deserved to win, that is not the case as we know how football can be.

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:55 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:But it isnt. If there were no shots then there would be no goals stats for you to look at.

The base stat is chances created, the more chances created the more you score, the more you score the higher up you tend to finish. And the opposite of course generally works the other way.

The key bit is the first one (chances) because of you didnt have the first one then you wouldnt have the 2nd (goals) or 3rd (wins).


It is that's correct, but you have changed your stance on this subject now. You claimed earlier that Norwich had more chances and possession so deserved to win, that is not the case as we know how football can be.


Where have I changed my tune, my opinion hasnt wavered.

The more chances you have the more likely you are to score. Norwich had more chances so were more likely to score. If you played it 100 times Norwich would win far more than they would lose on the premise we just bith agreed on.

Meaning you wont always lose, as you showed yesterday, however if you continue to give up that amount of chances and create as little then you will lose far more than win.

This is common sense is it not?

Re: A Real Hammering Is On The Cards

Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:59 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:But it isnt. If there were no shots then there would be no goals stats for you to look at.

The base stat is chances created, the more chances created the more you score, the more you score the higher up you tend to finish. And the opposite of course generally works the other way.

The key bit is the first one (chances) because of you didnt have the first one then you wouldnt have the 2nd (goals) or 3rd (wins).


It is that's correct, but you have changed your stance on this subject now. You claimed earlier that Norwich had more chances and possession so deserved to win, that is not the case as we know how football can be.


Where have I changed my tune, my opinion hasnt wavered.

The more chances you have the more likely you are to score. Norwich had more chances so were more likely to score. If you played it 100 times Norwich would win far more than they would lose on the premise we just bith agreed on.

Meaning you wont always lose, as you showed yesterday, however if you continue to give up that amount of chances and create as little then you will lose far more than win.

This is common sense is it not?


It is common sense as you put it now, but luckily football isn't based on number of shots, possession etc. it's based on converted attempts which we all know. It depends how good the defence also, if you have a good defence then you can withstand more goal scoring opportunities as a result. These facts you suggest fortunately mean nothing when the game is played. That's all I have to say on the matter as I'm repeating myself now.