Why I am worried

Here is the truthful reason why I am worried. Im not trolling, its genuine worry hence the length of this post and why I am doubting Malky. Of course I would love him to prove me wrong and I suspect every single doubter out there of his who's a Cardiff City fan also feels the same way. If he gets that chance to prove us wrong over the season is down to Tan entirely. I wouldn't blame Tan for sticking with him or bringing in someone else to try and get a better brand of football going. I think as fans its perfectly fine for us to be worried about the club we support.

1) I'd firstly like to say I can see Palace and Sunderland continue to struggle. This of course works in our favour and I simply cannot see them doing enough to kick start a revival. Both teams have many faults and Sunderland have most definitely lost the edge in the final third they had last season thanks to losing players like Sessegnon. Thats 2 places taken up out of the 3 in my eyes already.

2) The 18th spot is where I am worried we are likely to end up. Of all the teams I thought would be competing for that position, we are the worst at the moment. I had Hull City, Norwich and Stoke as the others who will be battling against us to avoid that 18th spot. Norwich and Hull City, albeit struggling in terms of results are playing good football and creating, something we are not doing often enough. We do it in spells, I won't disagree but we don't dictate at any times on a routine basis.

Out of the four teams we look the least likely to click and start getting points with convincing wins. Stoke have form in this league for grinding out results and their methods are tried and tested. Granted, they are trying a slightly new way but the core is still there, a Premier League experienced core that will revert to type if plan B is needed. Then you have Hull City. They are playing with no fear and taking the game to teams and its paying off for them. They are playing nice football, showing why they should be in this division and the likes of Brady are unlocking teams with ease. Finally, Norwich, they have a key striker to come back in Van Wolfswinkel who will start notching the goals for them. His record speaks for itself and they, as they did today, created loads.

My worry is without purchasing in January or without changing tactics dramatically and taking a risk, what do we do? Norwich can create in that they have the likes of Redmond who is fast and tricky. They have other players who drift between the lines and pick up good positions.

Stoke have a striker who compliments their style of play. They have good crossers and Crouch to compliment them with Arnautovic to compliment him by picking up his knock downs. He has craft himself and is a tidy player. They play to the strengths they have and rightly so.

Then Hull City, as pointed out above, they have Brady and other players who are playing in maybe an arrogant, maybe an over confident way but its fearless and its paying dividends for them. They have a strong core and a proven striker at this level who compliments their nature in Graham. He chases down and their work ethic is admirable but the confidence also means they are willing to pass it, willing to take it to other teams.

We at the moment are like a mixture of them and its not clicked. Will it? I hope so but at the moment there is no sense of direction or consistent craft in the middle of the park. We have the strength and work ethic in players like Medel and Mutch etc. We have the nifty players like Kim who can drift in between the lines and create. We do not have the Redmond type player that Norwich have but we do have the wingers Stoke have that can cross in Cowie and Whittingham. However, we do not have the striker to compliment this type of winger. We have strikers who compliment a passing game and on the shoulder game and not the pace driven wingers to work with them.

How many times did Theo wastefully pump the ball into the box today? Loads of times.

I see 3 solutions for Malky, 1 can come soon and be just what we need. The other 2 in January. If by mid January he shows no sign of signing these types of players required then I think its time for change.

a) Cornelius comes back from injury and instantly becomes a hit providing the type of striker thats needed to compliment the crossing ability of our wide men, Whittingham, Bellamy and Cowie.

b) Malky signs a target man in January like Jerome or even a Zamora. We just need someone who can hold it up and bring others into play like Kim in the final third and then he can be creative and he dictate properly without having to drop deep to compensate. Him dropping deep just puts him at risk as today proved with him trying to dribble his way out of trouble.

c) Malky plays 4-4-2 with Odemwingie and Campbell up top and brings in 2 proper wingers possibly on loan and gets them running at teams like Zaha and Bolasie did for Palace with Medel and Mutch pulling the strings in centre midfield or Odemwingie up top with the 2 wingers out wide and Mutch, Kim and Medel as the middle three and we try what Swansea did with the fast wingers getting to the byline and cutting back and using trickery out wide.

3) I accept we have played tough teams so far. Thats fair enough but Im sure we will all agree that there are no easy games in this division. We need every point we can and we need to start showing we are worthy of being in this division and showing teams we can hurt them. The more we do that the bigger the risk and the more teams will be cautious in their build up play against us. At the moment we sit back too much and teams come to play against us with an air of confidence around them, knocking the ball about knowing they can do so without much of a problem.

Thanks to those who took the time to read this. Please stay on topic as this should be a serious debate. We all support the club and want the best for the club, I hope, and hopefully Malky does identify the problem thats obvious and sorts it.

Can you please summarise more of the things you write

To many words,keep it brief.

he is use to writing reports on serie a players that's why it was drawn out

Can you please summarise more of the things you write

he is use to writing reports on serie a players that's why it was drawn out

he is use to writing reports on serie a players that's why it was drawn out

Could be worse. I could be confined to the doldrums of Hirwaun.

The comments in this thread are f*cking scandalous.

It's a good post, but I honestly feel Malky think we can get away with drawing most and winning a few, the style of football he craves is something seen in the battersea dogs home with rolo and barney hoofing it between kennels, f*cking dog shite.

Here is the truthful reason why I am worried. Im not trolling, its genuine worry hence the length of this post and why I am doubting Malky. Of course I would love him to prove me wrong and I suspect every single doubter out there of his who's a Cardiff City fan also feels the same way. If he gets that chance to prove us wrong over the season is down to Tan entirely. I wouldn't blame Tan for sticking with him or bringing in someone else to try and get a better brand of football going. I think as fans its perfectly fine for us to be worried about the club we support.

1) I'd firstly like to say I can see Palace and Sunderland continue to struggle. This of course works in our favour and I simply cannot see them doing enough to kick start a revival. Both teams have many faults and Sunderland have most definitely lost the edge in the final third they had last season thanks to losing players like Sessegnon. Thats 2 places taken up out of the 3 in my eyes already.

2) The 18th spot is where I am worried we are likely to end up. Of all the teams I thought would be competing for that position, we are the worst at the moment. I had Hull City, Norwich and Stoke as the others who will be battling against us to avoid that 18th spot. Norwich and Hull City, albeit struggling in terms of results are playing good football and creating, something we are not doing often enough. We do it in spells, I won't disagree but we don't dictate at any times on a routine basis.

Out of the four teams we look the least likely to click and start getting points with convincing wins. Stoke have form in this league for grinding out results and their methods are tried and tested. Granted, they are trying a slightly new way but the core is still there, a Premier League experienced core that will revert to type if plan B is needed. Then you have Hull City. They are playing with no fear and taking the game to teams and its paying off for them. They are playing nice football, showing why they should be in this division and the likes of Brady are unlocking teams with ease. Finally, Norwich, they have a key striker to come back in Van Wolfswinkel who will start notching the goals for them. His record speaks for itself and they, as they did today, created loads.

My worry is without purchasing in January or without changing tactics dramatically and taking a risk, what do we do? Norwich can create in that they have the likes of Redmond who is fast and tricky. They have other players who drift between the lines and pick up good positions.

Stoke have a striker who compliments their style of play. They have good crossers and Crouch to compliment them with Arnautovic to compliment him by picking up his knock downs. He has craft himself and is a tidy player. They play to the strengths they have and rightly so.

Then Hull City, as pointed out above, they have Brady and other players who are playing in maybe an arrogant, maybe an over confident way but its fearless and its paying dividends for them. They have a strong core and a proven striker at this level who compliments their nature in Graham. He chases down and their work ethic is admirable but the confidence also means they are willing to pass it, willing to take it to other teams.

We at the moment are like a mixture of them and its not clicked. Will it? I hope so but at the moment there is no sense of direction or consistent craft in the middle of the park. We have the strength and work ethic in players like Medel and Mutch etc. We have the nifty players like Kim who can drift in between the lines and create. We do not have the Redmond type player that Norwich have but we do have the wingers Stoke have that can cross in Cowie and Whittingham. However, we do not have the striker to compliment this type of winger. We have strikers who compliment a passing game and on the shoulder game and not the pace driven wingers to work with them.

How many times did Theo wastefully pump the ball into the box today? Loads of times.

I see 3 solutions for Malky, 1 can come soon and be just what we need. The other 2 in January. If by mid January he shows no sign of signing these types of players required then I think its time for change.

a) Cornelius comes back from injury and instantly becomes a hit providing the type of striker thats needed to compliment the crossing ability of our wide men, Whittingham, Bellamy and Cowie.

b) Malky signs a target man in January like Jerome or even a Zamora. We just need someone who can hold it up and bring others into play like Kim in the final third and then he can be creative and he dictate properly without having to drop deep to compensate. Him dropping deep just puts him at risk as today proved with him trying to dribble his way out of trouble.

c) Malky plays 4-4-2 with Odemwingie and Campbell up top and brings in 2 proper wingers possibly on loan and gets them running at teams like Zaha and Bolasie did for Palace with Medel and Mutch pulling the strings in centre midfield or Odemwingie up top with the 2 wingers out wide and Mutch, Kim and Medel as the middle three and we try what Swansea did with the fast wingers getting to the byline and cutting back and using trickery out wide.

3) I accept we have played tough teams so far. Thats fair enough but Im sure we will all agree that there are no easy games in this division. We need every point we can and we need to start showing we are worthy of being in this division and showing teams we can hurt them. The more we do that the bigger the risk and the more teams will be cautious in their build up play against us. At the moment we sit back too much and teams come to play against us with an air of confidence around them, knocking the ball about knowing they can do so without much of a problem.

Thanks to those who took the time to read this. Please stay on topic as this should be a serious debate. We all support the club and want the best for the club, I hope, and hopefully Malky does identify the problem thats obvious and sorts it.

An excellent post that is completely and utterly wasted on here.

An excellent post that is completely and utterly wasted on here.

Still not sure why you're on here reading posts about us

An excellent post that is completely and utterly wasted on here.

Still not sure why you're on here reading posts about us

Because you're our rivals and I enjoy this forum.

It's not rocket science.

Thats the second excellent post in 2 days from Barnett, and I echo the sentiment it is wasted on here. He got the same reaction to both.

Excellent post James

Pointless worrying James.

If we go down it is because we failed to sign the right guys in the summer. There will not be the players n the January window good enough and I doubt Cornelous will make much difference.

Nothing can be done so don't worry your head.

Fantastic written post. Sadly there are a few people who can't even talk about football in this thread.

Here is the truthful reason why I am worried. Im not trolling, its genuine worry hence the length of this post and why I am doubting Malky. Of course I would love him to prove me wrong and I suspect every single doubter out there of his who's a Cardiff City fan also feels the same way. If he gets that chance to prove us wrong over the season is down to Tan entirely. I wouldn't blame Tan for sticking with him or bringing in someone else to try and get a better brand of football going. I think as fans its perfectly fine for us to be worried about the club we support.

1) I'd firstly like to say I can see Palace and Sunderland continue to struggle. This of course works in our favour and I simply cannot see them doing enough to kick start a revival. Both teams have many faults and Sunderland have most definitely lost the edge in the final third they had last season thanks to losing players like Sessegnon. Thats 2 places taken up out of the 3 in my eyes already.

2) The 18th spot is where I am worried we are likely to end up. Of all the teams I thought would be competing for that position, we are the worst at the moment. I had Hull City, Norwich and Stoke as the others who will be battling against us to avoid that 18th spot. Norwich and Hull City, albeit struggling in terms of results are playing good football and creating, something we are not doing often enough. We do it in spells, I won't disagree but we don't dictate at any times on a routine basis.

Out of the four teams we look the least likely to click and start getting points with convincing wins. Stoke have form in this league for grinding out results and their methods are tried and tested. Granted, they are trying a slightly new way but the core is still there, a Premier League experienced core that will revert to type if plan B is needed. Then you have Hull City. They are playing with no fear and taking the game to teams and its paying off for them. They are playing nice football, showing why they should be in this division and the likes of Brady are unlocking teams with ease. Finally, Norwich, they have a key striker to come back in Van Wolfswinkel who will start notching the goals for them. His record speaks for itself and they, as they did today, created loads.

My worry is without purchasing in January or without changing tactics dramatically and taking a risk, what do we do? Norwich can create in that they have the likes of Redmond who is fast and tricky. They have other players who drift between the lines and pick up good positions.

Stoke have a striker who compliments their style of play. They have good crossers and Crouch to compliment them with Arnautovic to compliment him by picking up his knock downs. He has craft himself and is a tidy player. They play to the strengths they have and rightly so.

Then Hull City, as pointed out above, they have Brady and other players who are playing in maybe an arrogant, maybe an over confident way but its fearless and its paying dividends for them. They have a strong core and a proven striker at this level who compliments their nature in Graham. He chases down and their work ethic is admirable but the confidence also means they are willing to pass it, willing to take it to other teams.

We at the moment are like a mixture of them and its not clicked. Will it? I hope so but at the moment there is no sense of direction or consistent craft in the middle of the park. We have the strength and work ethic in players like Medel and Mutch etc. We have the nifty players like Kim who can drift in between the lines and create. We do not have the Redmond type player that Norwich have but we do have the wingers Stoke have that can cross in Cowie and Whittingham. However, we do not have the striker to compliment this type of winger. We have strikers who compliment a passing game and on the shoulder game and not the pace driven wingers to work with them.

How many times did Theo wastefully pump the ball into the box today? Loads of times.

I see 3 solutions for Malky, 1 can come soon and be just what we need. The other 2 in January. If by mid January he shows no sign of signing these types of players required then I think its time for change.

a) Cornelius comes back from injury and instantly becomes a hit providing the type of striker thats needed to compliment the crossing ability of our wide men, Whittingham, Bellamy and Cowie.

b) Malky signs a target man in January like Jerome or even a Zamora. We just need someone who can hold it up and bring others into play like Kim in the final third and then he can be creative and he dictate properly without having to drop deep to compensate. Him dropping deep just puts him at risk as today proved with him trying to dribble his way out of trouble.

c) Malky plays 4-4-2 with Odemwingie and Campbell up top and brings in 2 proper wingers possibly on loan and gets them running at teams like Zaha and Bolasie did for Palace with Medel and Mutch pulling the strings in centre midfield or Odemwingie up top with the 2 wingers out wide and Mutch, Kim and Medel as the middle three and we try what Swansea did with the fast wingers getting to the byline and cutting back and using trickery out wide.

3) I accept we have played tough teams so far. Thats fair enough but Im sure we will all agree that there are no easy games in this division. We need every point we can and we need to start showing we are worthy of being in this division and showing teams we can hurt them. The more we do that the bigger the risk and the more teams will be cautious in their build up play against us. At the moment we sit back too much and teams come to play against us with an air of confidence around them, knocking the ball about knowing they can do so without much of a problem.

Thanks to those who took the time to read this. Please stay on topic as this should be a serious debate. We all support the club and want the best for the club, I hope, and hopefully Malky does identify the problem thats obvious and sorts it.

Excellent post, I agree 100%! I didn't go to the game against Norwich I was so positive we would get 3 points but after listening to the game on the radio and watching the reviews on match of the day it seems the canaries were all over us, and almost nicked a goal, how can this be? We have a far better overall setup that them, Malky needs to get a plan b!

he is use to writing reports on serie a players that's why it was drawn out

Could be worse. I could be confined to the doldrums of Hirwaun.

so bitchy
so what striker would you bring in the two you mentioned haven't exactly set the prem alight.

so what striker would you bring in the two you mentioned haven't exactly set the prem alight.

Its not whether they can set the Prem alight though. Its having a striker that can actually do the job. We have a small on the shoulder striker playing in the box yet no wingers with true pace and a direct style of play at that level to get to the byline and cut it back. We either buy a striker who's tall to compliment those types of wingers and our direct style of play or we buy two wingers to compliment what we already have.

As much as it pains me to say it, we have really missed out from the Thomas Ince signing more than some will admit. His direct style of play and his ability to take a man on and get in the box would have meant that Campbell and the others would have been brought into play more. As it stands, we have slower wide players who struggle to go forward as theres no true knock it in to the striker option and this often leads us going all the way back to the defence or Marshall who in turn pump it up there and we lose possession.

Had we signed Ince and Montero we'd be laughing which is frustrating.

Marshall

Taylor
Turner
Caulker
Theo

Medel
Mutch

Ince
Kim
Montero

Odemwingie

3 very creative players behind Odemwingie who can craft and create. 2 of whom are very fast, 2 who can accelerate away from a player on the turn with ease. We'd have been a lot more of a threat on the counter and as a whole.

Who would I sign as a striker? Probably nobody. I would rather us go for two wingers, one maybe permanent, the other on loan such as Sterling etc. who is getting less time at Liverpool at the moment. I'd be happy with Sterling and Montero in January and if Malky can pull that off he might just still have a job, of course if he's still in a job at that point.

The reason we are struggling to go from defence to attack is because we have a broken system with no true understanding. Swansea went the pace option to the byline, trickery and cut it back to Graham who slotted home. They won penalties going down the wings and cutting in. They hit teams on the counter. Bored teams with passing and then struck with pace which hurt teams.

As much as it pains me to say it, i'd rather take a chance signing 2 wingers and going down that route than signing a big man and trying the Stoke way.

so what striker would you bring in the two you mentioned haven't exactly set the prem alight.

Its not whether they can set the Prem alight though. Its having a striker that can actually do the job. We have a small on the shoulder striker playing in the box yet no wingers with true pace and a direct style of play at that level to get to the byline and cut it back. We either buy a striker who's tall to compliment those types of wingers and our direct style of play or we buy two wingers to compliment what we already have.

As much as it pains me to say it, we have really missed out from the Thomas Ince signing more than some will admit. His direct style of play and his ability to take a man on and get in the box would have meant that Campbell and the others would have been brought into play more. As it stands, we have slower wide players who struggle to go forward as theres no true knock it in to the striker option and this often leads us going all the way back to the defence or Marshall who in turn pump it up there and we lose possession.

Had we signed Ince and Montero we'd be laughing which is frustrating.

Marshall

Taylor
Turner
Caulker
Theo

Medel
Mutch

Ince
Kim
Montero

Odemwingie

3 very creative players behind Odemwingie who can craft and create. 2 of whom are very fast, 2 who can accelerate away from a player on the turn with ease. We'd have been a lot more of a threat on the counter and as a whole.

Who would I sign as a striker? Probably nobody. I would rather us go for two wingers, one maybe permanent, the other on loan such as Sterling etc. who is getting less time at Liverpool at the moment. I'd be happy with Sterling and Montero in January and if Malky can pull that off he might just still have a job, of course if he's still in a job at that point.

The reason we are struggling to go from defence to attack is because we have a broken system with no true understanding. Swansea went the pace option to the byline, trickery and cut it back to Graham who slotted home. They won penalties going down the wings and cutting in. They hit teams on the counter. Bored teams with passing and then struck with pace which hurt teams.

As much as it pains me to say it, i'd rather take a chance signing 2 wingers and going down that route than signing a big man and trying the Stoke way.

I reckon we'll go back in for Ince/Montero in January personally

And I suppose Tan is going to put his hand in his pocket in January is he ????

And I suppose Tan is going to put his hand in his pocket in January is he ????

This is another problem isn't it? It all stems from, as Baked pointed out, not getting in the required players in the summer. Come January Malky may already be gone and Tan may be more than happy to back his new manager he has selected to take us forward. That's still to be seen. If Malky is still here then he still has the loan market to tap into and there are players like Sterling and so on who can be brought in. Other clubs have got the likes of Sinclair on loan and he, albeit an ex Swansea player, would have been an ideal signing for us.

A good post and some good points. Our coming games are Swansea home, away to Villa, then Man Utd and Arsenal at home.

Realistically, the way the side is playing we could end up with no points from all 4. However, I'm an optimist and I think we will beat Swansea, draw at Villa and thats our lot for this month. I think 4 points, but you never know. The side is playing like it did in the championship. I don't think we won any of our last 4 games when we won promotion. I was watching a live stream of the game at Norwich and when the subs were made in the 2nd half the commentator said Hughton is bringing on more attacking options and Mackay is keeping his side defensive and that confirmed to me that he had no intention to go to Norwich with a win in mind. We got a point from a game we should've lost 7 -2. We play like that again and it will be 6, 7 or 8!

Good post .

The concerns in relation to our style of play - unlock defences, get round the back , use width effectively,run the channels - are valid points and have been mentioned regularly on here ! We did fail to bring in the players who could alleviate the issues mentioned and that point is indeed valid , for me we still need to bring in those players and therefore the cash to add guile to the squad needs to be made available for January - Malky needs to be made aware of this so that his planning can continue !

I have to say I do like the team ethic Malky instils but this only is insufficient to secure safety , he needs to add that real attacking quality we lack , for me Malky is the man to keep us up but he too is on this learning curve ..... time perhaps is not on his side and as mentioned in a previous post we have a tough cuppla games lined up !

On that topic , I do honestly see the Gypo being dragged into the fray , for whatever reason(s) they do not seem to have the same fluidity as previous seasons - whether its the players brought in taking time to settle or the midweek Europa games or complacency I'm not sure , in all honesty I'm not that bothered !

I agree Palace for me will continue to struggle & Sunderland need major surgery but I can also see Fulham having a tough time, thats another club that seems to have probs !

Why I am not worried -

Norwich at home with god knows how many expensive strikers couldn't score against a team who didn't get it together at all on the day and dropped two points.

With a clear head today, we rode our luck, but come away with a point - result.

Malky has changed things before, he will do it again.

Not sure there is too much he can do (except put Whitts in the middle)and move the team 10 meters forward

James, I'm guess none of your descendants were at Rourke's Drift!

We are who we are...

We're Cardiff City; we're Welsh; we're proud; and we never give in! We'll fight for every point this season starting with those pesky Jacks on Sunday afternoon!:boxing:

I didn't see them (the Jacks) setting the world alight this week either and we have nothing to fear from them if we (and by that I mean the team, of course) do our jobs

Just get behind (supposedly) your club and lose the negativity. It does you no credit and puts you on a par with the certain other posters; all of whom have an allegiance with Wales 2nd biggest club about 50 miles west down the M4

James, I'm guess none of your descendants were at Rourke's Drift!

Completely different Sven. If you are at war you can wait until the enemy advance because you can then strike and kill them and the threat is averted. That threat is dead so it is not coming back (god willing there's no zombie apocalypse) and that's not possible in football. When you get rid of the threat it keeps coming back at you with after wave of attack. The likes of Hazard, Paulinho, Coutinho, Suarez, Ozil, etc. and all of these other players who drift in between the lines picking up space will break us down and they will continue to attack us in an unrelenting fashion because we allow it.

Just get behind (supposedly) your club and lose the negativity. It does you no credit and puts you on a par with the certain other posters; all of whom have an allegiance with Wales 2nd biggest club about 50 miles west down the M4

Sven, its not negativity. The club is one or two players short however in my opinion. Its just realism and I hope its addressed.

Why I am not worried -

Norwich at home with god knows how many expensive strikers couldn't score against a team who didn't get it together at all on the day and dropped two points.

With a clear head today, we rode our luck, but come away with a point - result.

Malky has changed things before, he will do it again.

Not sure there is too much he can do (except put Whitts in the middle)and move the team 10 meters forward

Malky has limited options.He will have to wait for January-if he is still here before he can change the squad.

I fail to see why anyone believes Malky sends a team out to play badly. They didn't play well yesterday - I was there- but as much as anything this was down to a couple of players in midfield=Kim in particular not performing but Norwich were also very up for it.I don't think we were originally set up to get a bore draw.The half time changes solidified things and we got the point.Did anyone watch Norwich v Chelsea the other week and see how close Norwich came to winning that one?

James, I'm guess none of your descendants were at Rourke's Drift!

Completely different Sven. If you are at war you can wait until the enemy advance because you can then strike and kill them and the threat is averted. That threat is dead so it is not coming back (god willing there's no zombie apocalypse) and that's not possible in football. When you get rid of the threat it keeps coming back at you with after wave of attack. The likes of Hazard, Paulinho, Coutinho, Suarez, Ozil, etc. and all of these other players who drift in between the lines picking up space will break us down and they will continue to attack us in an unrelenting fashion because we allow it.

Just get behind (supposedly) your club and lose the negativity. It does you no credit and puts you on a par with the certain other posters; all of whom have an allegiance with Wales 2nd biggest club about 50 miles west down the M4

Sven, its not negativity. The club is one or two players short however in my opinion. Its just realism and I hope its addressed.

James, my whole point is that there is nothing we (as supporters) can do except get behind Malky and the team and create a positive atmosphere around the place. We are in a very special place at the moment (the Premier League) and we should be enjoying it. No-one (of sound mind) realistically expected anything except a struggle in Year One but there are positive signs on and off the field; sometimes people just have to look for them

Pointless worrying James.

If we go down it is because we failed to sign the right guys in the summer. There will not be the players n the January window good enough and I doubt Cornelous will make much difference.

Nothing can be done so don't worry your head.

Good shout, & i believe it to be the main reason why Moody was "relieved of his duties".

Who was the poster that leaked the pre season information that City was finding it difficult attracting top quality players?

Well BakedAlasker is right,,,,we got what we got, & we are where we are now.

f**k reading that