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For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Style

Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:20 am

In the first half we played our usual defensive style, with Chelsea dominating possession with 77% to our 23%, 13 shots to our 4 and 4 corners to our 2, yet we had twice as many shots on target and should have been 1 - 0 up at half time, as the Chelsea goal was illegal. In the second half we had an early substitution of Kimbo for Medel, as after his international duty involving flying thousands of miles, he looked jaded by his usual high standards. We became more attack oriented resulting in the following second half stats :-
Chelsea possession - 53%; Cardiff - 47% ( which gives a total 65% to 35% for the whole match); shots 7 to our 9 ( total 20 to our 13 )and corners 2 to our 7 ( total 6 to our 9 ). Therefore, we were definitely more attack orientated in the second half, yet the result was that it gifted Chelsea the chance to catch us on the break and to allow more space for them to attack, resulting in us letting in three goals. If we had another defensive general like Medel to bring on, then I'm sure that we would not have changed our style in the second half, to one which a lot of posters on here have been wishing for, from a style praised by those who admire what Malky is achieving.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:52 am

Whats it acheiving then?

Weve kept 1 clean sheet in 8 games?

Weve conceded 2 or more in 4 of those 8 games.

Weve only scored 2 or more in 2 of those 8 games.

Do the math

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:10 am

After doing the maths who's the idiot 451 is plan a where's plan b

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:21 am

DEANO wrote:After doing the maths who's the idiot 451 is plan a where's plan b

There isnt one. There never has been.

We got away with scrappy percentage football in the Championship.

We wont in the Premiership.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:22 am

To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:34 am

RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.

im afraid i agree

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:26 am

RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.



I agree too.... Cowie and rudy and maybe gunnarsson shouldn't be anywhere near the starting xi....

What a waste of money brayford was too!

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:36 am

soulofthesea wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.

im afraid i agree


"a striker that looks pretty gash" ... An you've based this on 30 minutes of football against Accrington Stanley? Nice one.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:43 am

No, ive based it on all the reports ive head and the fact he hardly lit up a poor Danish league to warrant such an outlay.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:56 am

So you haven't actually seen him play at all then to back up "looks pretty gash".

:roll:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:59 am

RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.


Reference your quote above, who? Any names?

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:59 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:So you haven't actually seen him play at all then to back up "looks pretty gash".

:roll:


No I havent.

Ive never actually seen Rudy Gestede play either but going from what I have read from many sources who have seen him play and his playing history i can come to the conclusion hes pretty gash too. Would i be right?

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:00 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:So you haven't actually seen him play at all then to back up "looks pretty gash".

:roll:


Right Chuckles,this forum should come with a idiot warning.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:01 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.


Reference your quote above, who? Any names?


Scott Parker for one. Im not privy to a scouting network however which your manager has at his disposal.

we manage to get midfielders for next to nothing who do the same, well actually better than Medel and we dont pay the kind of wages you do. There are plenty.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:03 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:So you haven't actually seen him play at all then to back up "looks pretty gash".

:roll:


No I havent.

Ive never actually seen Rudy Gestede play either but going from what I have read from many sources who have seen him play and his playing history i can come to the conclusion hes pretty gash too. Would i be right?


You are just a c**t that loves rubbishing anything Cardiff City.... you are one f*cking sad little b*stard. So you now judge players on what you have read about them :lol:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:03 am

"Looks pretty gash".

You can't say that if you've never seen him play! You've not looked at him! :roll: He's had 10 minutes in the premiership as a substitute, how anyone can judge a player in the closing minutes of a game, never mind make any sort of full review of him in that time, I don't know.

Rudy has been here over 2 and a half seasons & has had many chances to show what he's capable of here... Therefore the judgements on him would be fairer and accurate.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:05 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:"Looks pretty gash".

You can't say that if you've never seen him play! You've not looked at him! :roll: He's had 10 minutes in the premiership as a substitute, how anyone can judge a player in the closing minutes of a game, never mind make any sort of full review of him in that time, I don't know.

Rudy has been here over 2 and a half seasons & has had many chances to show what he's capable of here... Therefore the judgements on him would be fairer and accurate.


I can and I have. Ive never seen Pele play but he was pretty good.

Cornelius didnt start his career with you. He was in an terrible league prior to joining you where i would have thought a striker commanding that fee would have done better in. The reports from people who have seen him play for you also back this up.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:07 am

Caerphillyblue1927 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:So you haven't actually seen him play at all then to back up "looks pretty gash".

:roll:


No I havent.

Ive never actually seen Rudy Gestede play either but going from what I have read from many sources who have seen him play and his playing history i can come to the conclusion hes pretty gash too. Would i be right?


You are just a c**t that loves rubbishing anything Cardiff City.... you are one f*cking sad little b*stard. So you now judge players on what you have read about them :lol:


Ok :lol:

Yes im happy to go on the information at hand and make a judgement, if im wrong then im wrong however hes done nothing in his career so far to prove this theory otherwise.

I guess ill wait. :laughing6:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:14 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:"Looks pretty gash".

You can't say that if you've never seen him play! You've not looked at him! :roll: He's had 10 minutes in the premiership as a substitute, how anyone can judge a player in the closing minutes of a game, never mind make any sort of full review of him in that time, I don't know.

Rudy has been here over 2 and a half seasons & has had many chances to show what he's capable of here... Therefore the judgements on him would be fairer and accurate.


I can and I have. Ive never seen Pele play but he was pretty good.

Cornelius didnt start his career with you. He was in an terrible league prior to joining you where i would have thought a striker commanding that fee would have done better in. The reports from people who have seen him play for you also back this up.


Good grief now bringing in Pele to win the argument.

So what exposer did Pele have compared to Cornelius? Different worlds apart there but ypou use it to try and win an argument. You really do resort to desperate measures don't you?

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:18 am

Roath and Chuckles on a thread about idiots. How very apt.

As you were.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:19 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Whats it acheiving then?

Weve kept 1 clean sheet in 8 games?

Weve conceded 2 or more in 4 of those 8 games.

Weve only scored 2 or more in 2 of those 8 games.

Do the math

Anyone care to do the math instead of derailing the thread?

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:21 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:"Looks pretty gash".

You can't say that if you've never seen him play! You've not looked at him! :roll: He's had 10 minutes in the premiership as a substitute, how anyone can judge a player in the closing minutes of a game, never mind make any sort of full review of him in that time, I don't know.

Rudy has been here over 2 and a half seasons & has had many chances to show what he's capable of here... Therefore the judgements on him would be fairer and accurate.


I can and I have. Ive never seen Pele play but he was pretty good.

Cornelius didnt start his career with you. He was in an terrible league prior to joining you where i would have thought a striker commanding that fee would have done better in. The reports from people who have seen him play for you also back this up.



Good grief now bringing in Pele to win the argument.

So what exposer did Pele have compared to Cornelius? Different worlds apart there but ypou use it to try and win an argument. You really do resort to desperate measures don't you?



Im not comparing anyone, i dont know how you can even deduce that from what i have said.

The point was someone said i cant make a judgement if i havent seen him personally. Well im showing its perfectly logical. People call Pele the greatest but havent even seen him play, how you may ask? Because what we have been told about him by others that have seen him and his record is there for all to see.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:23 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.


Reference your quote above, who? Any names?


Scott Parker for one. Im not privy to a scouting network however which your manager has at his disposal.

we manage to get midfielders for next to nothing who do the same, well actually better than Medel and we dont pay the kind of wages you do. There are plenty.


Parker? Has the sick note even played for QPR yet? No more names then, just your usual comparisons to swansea in a poorly veiled attempt to lord it over us.
Medel isn't the issue. If you want his quality then you pay and he will at least maintain that value but probably increase it.

To call cornelius "gash" is nonsense when he hasn't played and the only game he started showed he wasn't over his injury. You saying this further shows your transparent obsession for a wind up.

I'm out :wave:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:24 am

Oh dear Carp. Youve had a mare there son

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:26 am

Pele played iver a 1000 games

Corny hasnt even played a 1000 seconds in the PL yet

Stupid analogy

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:26 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:To be honest im shocked by the lack of quality you have.

With £35 million you could have some real potent attacking players and not have to resort to such negative tactics. With that kind of warchest players like Don Cowie and Rudy Gestede shouldnt be anywhere near the team let alone playing at Stamford Bridge.

Hes spent too much money on players that stiffle rather than create. Without getting into it again as my thread (battle of defensive midfielders soeaks for itself), Medel for £11m is crazy. Defensive players are cheaper because its easier to destroy than create. The money could have been spent so much more wisely. You could have got in someone who can do his job just as well for a couple of million and bought some out and out wingers and a striker for that cash. Not to mention the curious case of Andreas Cornelius.

You had a need for 10 quality players. Tan stumped up enough cash and he blows pretty much all of it on 3 players. Two defensive ones and a striker that looks pretty gash.

Id be fuming if I was Tan.


Reference your quote above, who? Any names?


Scott Parker for one. Im not privy to a scouting network however which your manager has at his disposal.

we manage to get midfielders for next to nothing who do the same, well actually better than Medel and we dont pay the kind of wages you do. There are plenty.


Parker? Has the sick note even played for QPR yet? No more names then, just your usual comparisons to swansea in a poorly veiled attempt to lord it over us.

yes parker. He plays for Fulham not QPR and hes available for selection right now. Give me a scouting sydtem and i will have 10 names on your desk by next weekend.

Medel isn't the issue. If you want his quality then you pay and he will at least maintain that value but probably increase it.

but he hasnt been quality. He is performing worse than a player we picked up for free.

To call cornelius "gash" is nonsense when he hasn't played and the only game he started showed he wasn't over his injury. You saying this further shows your transparent obsession for a wind up.

hes played over 30 times. His career didnt start with you.

I'm out :wave:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:29 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Oh dear Carp. Youve had a mare there son


Oh yeah, no wonder I hadn't seen him on the pitch for QPR :laughing6: :oops:

Other points stand though :lol:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:31 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Pele played iver a 1000 games

Corny hasnt even played a 1000 seconds in the PL yet

Stupid analogy


Peoples careers dont begin with the premier league. However ill swap Pele with Andros Townsend then. Excellent winger :thumbright:

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:37 am

18 in 34 as a 19 year old in his debut season. Ratio of over 1 in 2.

Impressive stats. Certainly not gash.

Re: For All The Idiots Who Don't Want Malky's Defensive Styl

Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:40 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:18 in 34 as a 19 year old in his debut season. Ratio of over 1 in 2.

Impressive stats. Certainly not gash.


In the Danish League? Id have thought a striker commanding nearly an 8 figure sum would have stood out and scored more than he did. As I said at the time, the Danes were saying he was not premier league standard on planetswans and they watched many of his matches.

He has done nothing to prove their suggestions otherwise. Until that time i will go with the information i have at hand.