Chelsea first goal

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

A few weeks ago when we played Spurs, Lloris should've been sent off for the same thing. Just a bit of luck for us. That had passed, it doesn't stop the ref from making a correct decision that had a huge impact on the game

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

I don't understand, you've won 4-0 today and instead of enjoying that you'd rather come on our forum and talk about our game? Seriously why?

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

It's the referees discretion whether he interprets the act as intentional or not. If the ball is caught unknowingly outside the box, then surely it's unintentional? If your theory is correct then there'd be red cards every 5 minutes for deliberate fouls.

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

It's the referees discretion whether he interprets the act as intentional or not. If the ball is caught unknowingly outside the box, then surely it's unintentional? If your theory is correct then there'd be red cards every 5 minutes for deliberate fouls.

You can't unknowingly catch the ball outside the area! That's like saying a defender unknowingly trips a forward in the box so it's not a penalty. Muppet!

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

It's the referees discretion whether he interprets the act as intentional or not. If the ball is caught unknowingly outside the box, then surely it's unintentional? If your theory is correct then there'd be red cards every 5 minutes for deliberate fouls.

You can't unknowingly catch the ball outside the area! That's like saying a defender unknowingly trips a forward in the box so it's not a penalty. Muppet!

Uhh yes you can, If your eyes are on the ball catching it from a height and momentum carries you over then yes it is unintentional. Muppet!!

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Almost as much as a prat as not knowing that it's Laws of football, not rules of football eh Al?

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

It's the referees discretion whether he interprets the act as intentional or not. If the ball is caught unknowingly outside the box, then surely it's unintentional? If your theory is correct then there'd be red cards every 5 minutes for deliberate fouls.

You can't unknowingly catch the ball outside the area! That's like saying a defender unknowingly trips a forward in the box so it's not a penalty. Muppet!

Uhh yes you can, If your eyes are on the ball catching it from a height and momentum carries you over then yes it is unintentional. Muppet!!

You're clearly not capable of reading, are you? As I said earlier, if a goalkeeper slides out of the area with the ball in his hands (or, as in your example, momentum carries him out) it's a yellow card as it's deemed unintentional. As Marshall was already standing outside the area when he caught the ball it's deemed intentional, and therefore a red card. Simples!

Read the rules you tool. The goal shouldn't have stood.

You don't appear to have commented on point 1

No, but I corrected you on point 2

But if point 1 is correct, point 2 is irrelevant, surely?

It would have been a yellow card for Marshall as the Cardiff defender was closer to the ball than the Chelsea attacker.

The location of other players is irrelevant in this situation. If the keeper had slid out of the area whilst holding the ball, it's "unintentional" and therefore a yellow card. Catching the ball out of the area (as per Marshall today) is "intentional" and therefore a red card

It's the referees discretion whether he interprets the act as intentional or not. If the ball is caught unknowingly outside the box, then surely it's unintentional? If your theory is correct then there'd be red cards every 5 minutes for deliberate fouls.

You can't unknowingly catch the ball outside the area! That's like saying a defender unknowingly trips a forward in the box so it's not a penalty. Muppet!

Uhh yes you can, If your eyes are on the ball catching it from a height and momentum carries you over then yes it is unintentional. Muppet!!

You're clearly not capable of reading, are you? As I said earlier, if a goalkeeper slides out of the area with the ball in his hands (or, as in your example, momentum carries him out) it's a yellow card as it's deemed unintentional. As Marshall was already standing outside the area when he caught the ball it's deemed intentional, and therefore a red card. Simples!

Depends on the referees discretion as I said earlier. If Marshall unknowingly did the act, then it is unintentional and a yellow card. You're not quite grasping this are you. Further more, as there was a Cardiff defender closer to the ball than any Chelsea player, then there is no prevention of a goal scoring opportunity, so no red card there. Yellow card at very most, therefore the original point of this post remains. Foul on Marshall for Chelsea's equaliser.

Sad b*stard. Why do you care ffs

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Almost as much as a prat as not knowing that it's Laws of football, not rules of football eh Al?

Predantic tw*t! also piss off

Last edited by pembroke allan on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Almost as much as a prat as not knowing that it's Laws of football, not rules of football eh Al?

Predantic tw*t!

Can't argue with that

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Almost as much as a prat as not knowing that it's Laws of football, not rules of football eh Al?

Predantic tw*t!

Can't argue with that

Take back the piss off to many beers

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

You're a fool.

1- he didn't deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity so a free kick is all that should have been given.

2- he's in control of the ball.

Learn the laws of the game before you make a c**t of yourself.

I don't even think it was outside the box. It is safely into his body and I reckon that is in line with the 18 yard line and part of the ball would have been in line with that line. I'm just gonna say line again just cos I can.

I don't even think it was outside the box. It is safely into his body and I reckon that is in line with the 18 yard line and part of the ball would have been in line with that line. I'm just gonna say line again just cos I can.

He handles it outside, no doubt about it. He's just misjudged his positioning though.

I don't even think it was outside the box. It is safely into his body and I reckon that is in line with the 18 yard line and part of the ball would have been in line with that line. I'm just gonna say line again just cos I can.

He handles it outside, no doubt about it. He's just misjudged his positioning though.

I'll have to have another look at it then. Taking the bias out I thought it was borderline.

I don't even think it was outside the box. It is safely into his body and I reckon that is in line with the 18 yard line and part of the ball would have been in line with that line. I'm just gonna say line again just cos I can.

He handles it outside, no doubt about it. He's just misjudged his positioning though.

I'll have to have another look at it then. Taking the bias out I thought it was borderline.

I felt he pulled it in to him, on the line is inside the box but I feel hos hands are outside upon connection. Would need to see it again myself actually - too much vodka - no doubt about that!

Two points about this goal
1 - Marshall should not have been on the field at the time of the goal as he handled deliberately outside the area (automatic red card)
2 - ball was clearly out of Marshall's hands when Eto'o made contact with it - therefore a goal
STOP BLEATING

Yes just like spurs goalie other week? Stop bleating about something not given! Makes you look a prat, as well as not knowing rules of football.

Almost as much as a prat as not knowing that it's Laws of football, not rules of football eh Al?

Omg,what is the point,what a f*cking knob

I couldnt care less either way, but just a note...

If a keeper handles outside the box its a red card, it doesnt matter if it isnt denying a goaldcoring opportunity etc. and also it doesnt matter if its intentional or not. If you are a defender, scratching your head while on the line not even looking and the ball rockets into your hand and you save it, you are off. If the striker is bearing down on goal and you trip up and barge him over from behind - you are off. So on and so forth.

But i havent seen either incident. Just telling you the laws of the game as lots of people seem to be rewritting them in this thread.

I couldnt care less either way, but just a note...

If a keeper handles outside the box its a red card, it doesnt matter if it isnt denying a goaldcoring opportunity etc. and also it doesnt matter if its intentional or not. If you are a defender, scratching your head while on the line not even looking and the ball rockets into your hand and you save it, you are off. If the striker is bearing down on goal and you trip up and barge him over from behind - you are off. So on and so forth.

But i havent seen either incident. Just telling you the laws of the game as lots of people seem to be rewritting them in this thread.

Roathie,he handle outside the box,as been said the spurs keeper did the same against cardiff,and though out a season everything gets evened out,irrelevant of Marshall being on the pitch,the issue is the ref and linesman,the goal should not have been allowed to stand,because Marshall bounced the ball,he didn't drop it,so in the laws of the game he was still in control of the ball,if this happened the other way around,would the goal been allowed to stand?,I doubt it very much,what I ve seen so far in the prem the refs favour the big sides

I couldnt care less either way, but just a note...

If a keeper handles outside the box its a red card, it doesnt matter if it isnt denying a goaldcoring opportunity etc. and also it doesnt matter if its intentional or not. If you are a defender, scratching your head while on the line not even looking and the ball rockets into your hand and you save it, you are off. If the striker is bearing down on goal and you trip up and barge him over from behind - you are off. So on and so forth.

But i havent seen either incident. Just telling you the laws of the game as lots of people seem to be rewritting them in this thread.

Roathie,he handle outside the box,as been said the spurs keeper did the same against cardiff,and though out a season everything gets evened out,irrelevant of Marshall being on the pitch,the issue is the ref and linesman,the goal should not have been allowed to stand,because Marshall bounced the ball,he didn't drop it,so in the laws of the game he was still in control of the ball,if this happened the other way around,would the goal been allowed to stand?,I doubt it very much,what I ve seen so far in the prem the refs favour the big sides

I agree with you. The goal should have been disallowed and regarding the handball lloris did the same and got away with it.

But on that notion, im sure you will have a goal given that shouldnt have stood at some point this season too. As you said things tend to even out.

I also agree regarding the refs. I think they are horribly biased, before we got here id heard people say that but thought it was a myth. We got our first penalty yesterday since our first season in the prem, needless to say its now our third.

I couldnt care less either way, but just a note...

If a keeper handles outside the box its a red card, it doesnt matter if it isnt denying a goaldcoring opportunity etc. and also it doesnt matter if its intentional or not. If you are a defender, scratching your head while on the line not even looking and the ball rockets into your hand and you save it, you are off. If the striker is bearing down on goal and you trip up and barge him over from behind - you are off. So on and so forth.

But i havent seen either incident. Just telling you the laws of the game as lots of people seem to be rewritting them in this thread.

Roathie,he handle outside the box,as been said the spurs keeper did the same against cardiff,and though out a season everything gets evened out,irrelevant of Marshall being on the pitch,the issue is the ref and linesman,the goal should not have been allowed to stand,because Marshall bounced the ball,he didn't drop it,so in the laws of the game he was still in control of the ball,if this happened the other way around,would the goal been allowed to stand?,I doubt it very much,what I ve seen so far in the prem the refs favour the big sides

I agree with you. The goal should have been disallowed and regarding the handball lloris did the same and got away with it.

But on that notion, im sure you will have a goal given that shouldnt have stood at some point this season too. As you said things tend to even out.

I also agree regarding the refs. I think they are horribly biased, before we got here id heard people say that but thought it was a myth. We got our first penalty yesterday since our first season in the prem, needless to say its now our third.

You finally agree with me,are you feeling ok