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Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
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Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:04 am
Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
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Gonzo wrote:Friday 18th October 2013.
Sam Hammam believes Malky Mackay would not walk out on Cardiff City because he owes the club for giving him the chance to be a Premier League manager.
Mackay was known to be upset at club owner Vincent Tan's decision to axe head of recruitment Iain Moody.
But Hammam, the club's life president, told BBC Wales' Sport Wales there is little chance of Mackay leaving.
"Malky knows that he is a gem. He had to be given the chance and he wasn't getting it at Watford," Hammam said.
"He had it here and he owes this club, he owes Vincent Tan, but we also owe him."
Former Watford manager Mackay met the club's board on Monday after the removal of Moody, who has been replaced by 23-year-old Alisher Apsalyamov.
The Kazakh was on work experience at the club in the summer and is a friend of owner Tan's son.
Although Mackay had been left "bemused" and "frustrated" according to his agent Raymond Sparkes, the Scotsman had no intention of stepping down as manager.
In a statement from the Cardiff board on Tuesday, the club said that transfer dealings will be conducted "subject to the manager's final approval".
Hammam oversaw Cardiff's rise from the bottom division to the Championship after buying the club in 2000, relinquishing control six years later to a consortium led by Peter Ridsdale.
But the Lebanese businessman was invited back as honorary life president in the summer after the club finally settled its long-standing debt with the Langston company he was a spokesman for.
Hammam insisted he understood fans' fears about what Tan might decide to do next at Cardiff.
But he said they had to trust in the Malaysian businessman, whose multi-million pound investment in the club helped deliver top-flight football for the first time in 51 years.
"The most important thing is we should see the forest from the trees and put things in perspective," former Wimbledon owner Hammam said.
"By and large Vincent Tan has been an excellent owner of the club... good servant, saved the club, put money in, expanded the stadium.
"He has given us a training ground, stabilised the finances. He has done dozens of great things."
Tan caused consternation among many Cardiff fans during the summer of 2012 after changing the club's colours from blue to red.
Asked whether fans should be worried that Tan might look to re-name the club, Hammam admitted: "Look let's not beat around the bush... this is an issue.
"We're blue and we're red, we're a Bluebird but we're a dragon and so on.
"This needs to be addressed and finalised and made clear to everyone, one way or another."
For the full interview, watch Sport Wales on BBC Two Wales at 19:00 BST on Friday, 18 October.
Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:33 am
wez1927 wrote:Hammam admitted: "Look let's not beat around the bush... this is an issue
Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:35 am
newboy wrote:wez1927 wrote:Hammam admitted: "Look let's not beat around the bush... this is an issue
Is it? ...Mr T has promised us that no plans for name change...there again we all know, deep down, that Sam is miffed because Mr T stole the rebrand idea ... even the "Dragon" from HIM!
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"By and large Vincent Tan has been an excellent owner of the club... good servant, saved the club, put money in, expanded the stadium.
"He has given us a training ground, stabilised the finances. He has done dozens of great things."
Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:43 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
Agreed Annis. I know he is your mate but it seems he has turned into Tan's puppet Chief![]()
Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:44 pm
Deano1 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
You're right Annis, Malky owes us nothing.......but Sam says our identity needs to be 'addressed, finalised and made clear to everyone, one way or another'. Presumably he means we either go back to the old badge and blue home strip, or that we continue as we are but remove the bluebird completely from the badge and change our name. I know which option would clear things up for Tan!
Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:51 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Deano1 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
You're right Annis, Malky owes us nothing.......but Sam says our identity needs to be 'addressed, finalised and made clear to everyone, one way or another'. Presumably he means we either go back to the old badge and blue home strip, or that we continue as we are but remove the bluebird completely from the badge and change our name. I know which option would clear things up for Tan!
I wont go in to to much detail, but yes Sam is for our Blue
Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:59 pm
sleepers wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Deano1 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
You're right Annis, Malky owes us nothing.......but Sam says our identity needs to be 'addressed, finalised and made clear to everyone, one way or another'. Presumably he means we either go back to the old badge and blue home strip, or that we continue as we are but remove the bluebird completely from the badge and change our name. I know which option would clear things up for Tan!
I wont go in to to much detail, but yes Sam is for our Blue
annis didnt sam ask you not to mention the blue topic in front of tan at some
function i maybe wrong.![]()
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Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:03 pm
Forever Blue wrote:sleepers wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Deano1 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I have to disagree with Sam, if he thinks Malky owes Tan anything, in my mind Malky owes Tan nothing, Malky did a job for Cardiff City,Tan etc and the job was more than successful, in fact it should be Tan realising what a fantastic asset Malky is for our club.
Regarding our identity being stripped from us.
Your right Sam, it does need to be addressed, our identity needs to be returned ASAP
You're right Annis, Malky owes us nothing.......but Sam says our identity needs to be 'addressed, finalised and made clear to everyone, one way or another'. Presumably he means we either go back to the old badge and blue home strip, or that we continue as we are but remove the bluebird completely from the badge and change our name. I know which option would clear things up for Tan!
I wont go in to to much detail, but yes Sam is for our Blue
annis didnt sam ask you not to mention the blue topic in front of tan at some
function i maybe wrong.![]()
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Yes he did.
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Mario Polotelli wrote:I think that is a frank and pretty much spot on interview.
He said that Malky owed Tan but also we (as in the club) owed Malky so the headline is a bit misleading.
As gwyn said it was a team effort, had Tan not stabilised the club and given Malky the backing would we have got promoted? Unlikely if people are honest.
And the hideous rebrand aside I dont see how you can argue against this"By and large Vincent Tan has been an excellent owner of the club... good servant, saved the club, put money in, expanded the stadium.
"He has given us a training ground, stabilised the finances. He has done dozens of great things."