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Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League Club

Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:42 pm

Monday 14th October 2013

' Vincent Tan risks the future of Cardiff as a Premier League club '


By meddling so inexplicably, so randomly and so damagingly in his team’s affairs, Vincent Tan – the owner of Cardiff City – risks their very future in the Premier League, and as a by-product, the financial stake that he has ploughed into the club.

The undermining of Malky Mackay would have got all evil club owners rubbing their hands together in glee, but not even the mystifying appointment of Joe Kinnear at Newcastle can come close to what has been going on in Wales behind the borders.

Yet, for all his eccentricities, he has led the Bluebirds (or Red Dragons) into the Premier League. He has spent money to improve the squad – and in that credit should be given to the Malaysian.

Thanks, but no thanks

Iain Moody, the highly respected head of recruitment, was placed on gardening leave last week before being offered a leaving package, and was replaced by Alisher Apsalyamov – a friend of Tan’s son and the man who undertook ‘work experience’ at the club by painting the stadium.

Mackay is used to his owner meddling in the club’s affairs. He used to come into the changing room at half time to lecture the players, until they stopped him.

Now he sends text messages to his manager, demanding tactical changes and substitutions. Then, at the end of last season, he instructed them to practice their long range shooting.

But this is one step too far.

The reaction of senior players such as Craig Bellamy tells its own tale. He was reported by the BBC as saying: “Iain is a huge loss for us, a huge, huge loss because he is outstanding at what he does.

“Any club with Iain Moody is a miles better club, without a shadow of a doubt.”

And any club with Alisher Apsalyamov leading their recruitment drive is without a doubt a weaker club, without a shadow of doubt.

Weakened club

But the appointment, which not only undermines Mackay and indicates that they don’t want him at the club anymore, makes Cardiff a much weaker force in the transfer market.

Any reinforcements that are needed in January will have to be negotiated by the 23-year-old Kazakh, whose only football experience probably comes from playing on Football Manager.

This could have the result that Mackay is forced out of his job, only to be replaced by a yes man for the current regime. The current crop of footballers would ultimately have their confidence and morale eviscerated by the move, which would probably cause results to slip.

Tan cannot afford this, especially after stumping up the cash for the summer transfer window – yet it is a storm that he has caused. He has sat down, and thought that this course of actions was a sensible and prudent measure to take.

That is the most worrying thing.

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:54 pm

lyndipops wrote:Monday 14th October 2013

' Vincent Tan risks the future of Cardiff as a Premier League club '


By meddling so inexplicably, so randomly and so damagingly in his team’s affairs, Vincent Tan – the owner of Cardiff City – risks their very future in the Premier League, and as a by-product, the financial stake that he has ploughed into the club.

The undermining of Malky Mackay would have got all evil club owners rubbing their hands together in glee, but not even the mystifying appointment of Joe Kinnear at Newcastle can come close to what has been going on in Wales behind the borders.

Yet, for all his eccentricities, he has led the Bluebirds (or Red Dragons) into the Premier League. He has spent money to improve the squad – and in that credit should be given to the Malaysian.

Thanks, but no thanks

Iain Moody, the highly respected head of recruitment, was placed on gardening leave last week before being offered a leaving package, and was replaced by Alisher Apsalyamov – a friend of Tan’s son and the man who undertook ‘work experience’ at the club by painting the stadium.

Mackay is used to his owner meddling in the club’s affairs. He used to come into the changing room at half time to lecture the players, until they stopped him.

Now he sends text messages to his manager, demanding tactical changes and substitutions. Then, at the end of last season, he instructed them to practice their long range shooting.

But this is one step too far.

The reaction of senior players such as Craig Bellamy tells its own tale. He was reported by the BBC as saying: “Iain is a huge loss for us, a huge, huge loss because he is outstanding at what he does.

“Any club with Iain Moody is a miles better club, without a shadow of a doubt.”

And any club with Alisher Apsalyamov leading their recruitment drive is without a doubt a weaker club, without a shadow of doubt.

Weakened club

But the appointment, which not only undermines Mackay and indicates that they don’t want him at the club anymore, makes Cardiff a much weaker force in the transfer market.

Any reinforcements that are needed in January will have to be negotiated by the 23-year-old Kazakh, whose only football experience probably comes from playing on Football Manager.

This could have the result that Mackay is forced out of his job, only to be replaced by a yes man for the current regime. The current crop of footballers would ultimately have their confidence and morale eviscerated by the move, which would probably cause results to slip.

Tan cannot afford this, especially after stumping up the cash for the summer transfer window – yet it is a storm that he has caused. He has sat down, and thought that this course of actions was a sensible and prudent measure to take.

That is the most worrying thing.

dont the media just love us :thumbup:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:57 pm

wez1927 wrote:
lyndipops wrote:Monday 14th October 2013

' Vincent Tan risks the future of Cardiff as a Premier League club '


By meddling so inexplicably, so randomly and so damagingly in his team’s affairs, Vincent Tan – the owner of Cardiff City – risks their very future in the Premier League, and as a by-product, the financial stake that he has ploughed into the club.

The undermining of Malky Mackay would have got all evil club owners rubbing their hands together in glee, but not even the mystifying appointment of Joe Kinnear at Newcastle can come close to what has been going on in Wales behind the borders.

Yet, for all his eccentricities, he has led the Bluebirds (or Red Dragons) into the Premier League. He has spent money to improve the squad – and in that credit should be given to the Malaysian.

Thanks, but no thanks

Iain Moody, the highly respected head of recruitment, was placed on gardening leave last week before being offered a leaving package, and was replaced by Alisher Apsalyamov – a friend of Tan’s son and the man who undertook ‘work experience’ at the club by painting the stadium.

Mackay is used to his owner meddling in the club’s affairs. He used to come into the changing room at half time to lecture the players, until they stopped him.

Now he sends text messages to his manager, demanding tactical changes and substitutions. Then, at the end of last season, he instructed them to practice their long range shooting.

But this is one step too far.

The reaction of senior players such as Craig Bellamy tells its own tale. He was reported by the BBC as saying: “Iain is a huge loss for us, a huge, huge loss because he is outstanding at what he does.

“Any club with Iain Moody is a miles better club, without a shadow of a doubt.”

And any club with Alisher Apsalyamov leading their recruitment drive is without a doubt a weaker club, without a shadow of doubt.

Weakened club

But the appointment, which not only undermines Mackay and indicates that they don’t want him at the club anymore, makes Cardiff a much weaker force in the transfer market.

Any reinforcements that are needed in January will have to be negotiated by the 23-year-old Kazakh, whose only football experience probably comes from playing on Football Manager.

This could have the result that Mackay is forced out of his job, only to be replaced by a yes man for the current regime. The current crop of footballers would ultimately have their confidence and morale eviscerated by the move, which would probably cause results to slip.

Tan cannot afford this, especially after stumping up the cash for the summer transfer window – yet it is a storm that he has caused. He has sat down, and thought that this course of actions was a sensible and prudent measure to take.

That is the most worrying thing.

dont the media just love us :thumbup:

They are saying the right comments about the lunatic Tan.

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:02 pm

Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:06 pm

expose him allday long, he could have been a hero around these parts, but he;s way off now. We will end up relegated as malky will have had enough at some point. How can it work with borat now anyway?

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:10 pm

lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:


Spot on. It doesn't feel like MY club anymore. First the shirt then the badge and now a YTS chief scout!!

Tan is a first class prick

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:11 pm

Can't see how he can stay or would want to stay after this - the first chance he gets he will understandably leave, and that will start our decent into the abyss. Sorry to sound negative but the writing is on the wall - at least is was until that 23 year old Kazach removed it with a fresh coat of bullshit :sad7: :sad7:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:19 pm

lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:





Waited a bit longer?? :o

Wow!! Does anyone remember how close we were to Administration when NO-ONE else was prepared to help?? :o

You may not 'respect' Tan for some things, but him and TG saving the club from that (and Langston, etc.) should never be one of them :roll:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:11 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:





Waited a bit longer?? :o

Wow!! Does anyone remember how close we were to Administration when NO-ONE else was prepared to help?? :o

You may not 'respect' Tan for some things, but him and TG saving the club from that (and Langston, etc.) should never be one of them :roll:


Ridsdale announced his intention to quit as Cardiff chairman at the end of May 2010, the play-off final loss to Blackpool at Wembley Stadium on 22 May 2010 his final game, with Malaysian Consortium head Dato Chan Tien Ghee taking over as part of a £6m deal for an estimated 30% of the club.[11] The club was estimated to have between £10m[8] and £30m of debt.,[11] and faced a fifth winding up order over a £1.9m tax bill on 16 June. The publishing of the financial accounts for year 2009 in August 2010 revealed that the clubs actual debt was £66 million, leading to concerns over the continued existence of the club.


When you put it like that I suppose my memory is a bit short but its not hard given the present situation. The words rock and shit place spring to mind. :(

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:01 pm

Another great piece of Tan publicity, sums it up though. :roll:

Vincent Tan has been a controversial figure ever since he walked through the door at Cardiff City as the club’s owner.

During his reign he has changed the colour of the kit that resonates with the Bluebirds to red along with the alteration of the crest 2012 which didn’t go down well with the fanbase.

He has also labelled the fans in the past ‘ungrateful, negative and disruptive’ over that issue after the side reached the Premier League.


Tan has caused yet more controversy in the past week with the departure of the head of recruitment Iain Moody, and replacing him with a 23-year-old who is rumoured to be a friend of Tan’s son in Alisher Apsalyamov. It also said that Apsalyamov has no experience related to football.

The only positive surrounding this for Cardiff fans is the rhetoric coming from Tan regarding manager Malky Mackay. He seems to be receiving the backing of the Malaysian owner though the Cardiff Supporters Trust seem very concerned. They are right to be cynical regarding Tan’s comments and the future of their manager.

Fans of any club will welcome investment into their side if it meant improvements but not if the owner is taking the approach of ‘this is my toy and I will play with it in whatever way I want to.’

That seems to be Tan’s approach to the club, his sometimes contempt for the fans and their wishes and Cardiff’s identity in the past. Despite the success of promotion last season, if I were a Cardiff fan, I’d be worried about the direction Tan is taking the club in.

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:27 pm

it will all kick off if we lose to the jacks, sad but true

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:43 am

lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:


sums it up perfectly :thumbup:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:26 am

lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:


LMAO at that likeness :ayatollah:

Re: Vincent Tan risks Cardiff's future as a Premier League C

Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:20 pm

lyndipops wrote:Going to the Prem with Tan is a bit like losing your virginity to a slapper. Sure it feels good at the time, but you wake up one day with something you don't want, and you sort of wished you had waited a bit longer. :shock:


That made me laugh!! :D :D