BU PETITION ????

i know people who have signed the petition who have no interest in city nor do they support city,accosting people in the street just to get numbers is worthless.
I would have liked to see Bu just get fans signatures with their fan number,this i think would have sent a bigger message.
Sven ghali said the same a while back and i have to agree with him.

i know people who have signed the petition who have no interest in city nor do they support city,accosting people in the street just to get numbers is worthless.
I would have liked to see Bu just get fans signatures with their fan number,this i think would have sent a bigger message.
Sven ghali said the same a while back and i have to agree with him.

I do think bragging about Newcastle fans signing it, and that chap who had 200 signatures from his factory tend to dilute the impact somewhat, if they were registered season ticket holders, then possibly it would mean more.
I know people want to do what they can and are struggling for ideas, but just wondering do they think this will change anything and how many signatures are required to make a difference, if any at all.

Not dissing it, just concerned that people seem to be pinning their hopes on this petition actually achieving anything, an empty stadium would, and we know that ain't going to happen.

It's the same with every petition in the history of the world.

The fact is, people don't sign it unless they support the statement at the top. The vast majority will be City fans, but it's no bad thing to have a bit of solidarity from other teams fans too.

Well done B.U.

Not worth the paper its written on. Pissing in the wind.

Even if it had fan numbers do you really think Tan would give a f**k??

Not worth the paper its written on. Pissing in the wind.

Even if it had fan numbers do you really think Tan would give a f**k??

It's increasingly in his interest to listen. Whatever the weird motivation for the rebrand, he's getting roundly criticised from every angle, including the national media in this and other countries.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

Hes into us to the tune of £120m plus.....you think some disgruntled fans will force him out?

Whether we like it or not he has paid into the club and has the right to run it however he likes and theres feck all we can do about it.

As the old saying goes, shit rolls downhill and as football fans we are firmly rooted to the bottom.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If we are are talking percentages I can guarantee mr 98% 100% doesn't give a toss what any fan thinks.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Sums up BU attitude "proper fans and plastics", everybody in the stadium cheering on the city is a fan end off whether it's their first season or 50th

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Sums up BU attitude "proper fans and plastics", everybody in the stadium cheering on the city is a fan end off whether it's their first season or 50th

Where did I say I was a BU member? My post is solely my opinion. For you to slag BU off, you are clearly still in full support of Tan then? If so, shame on you! (My opinion)

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Point taken, but if anyone thinks I am going to give up supporting my local team to allow one of Tan's disciples to take my place, that simply isn't going to happen. You may be prepared to sit back and allow Tan to do whatever he likes, but I'm going to voice my concerns over what Tan is doing to our club. If I boycott the club, someone in red will take my place. I believe the only way we can show our disapproval to Tan is to keep turning up wearing blue and singing pro blue songs, while not buying any merchandise that's been brought out since the rebrand.

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Point taken, but if anyone thinks I am going to give up supporting my local team to allow one of Tan's disciples to take my place, that simply isn't going to happen. You may be prepared to sit back and allow Tan to do whatever he likes, but I'm going to voice my concerns over what Tan is doing to our club. If I boycott the club, someone in red will take my place. I believe the only way we can show our disapproval to Tan is to keep turning up wearing blue and singing pro blue songs, while not buying any merchandise that's been brought out since the rebrand.

Stop being an elitist prat.

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Point taken, but if anyone thinks I am going to give up supporting my local team to allow one of Tan's disciples to take my place, that simply isn't going to happen. You may be prepared to sit back and allow Tan to do whatever he likes, but I'm going to voice my concerns over what Tan is doing to our club. If I boycott the club, someone in red will take my place. I believe the only way we can show our disapproval to Tan is to keep turning up wearing blue and singing pro blue songs, while not buying any merchandise that's been brought out since the rebrand.

Stop being an elitist prat.

Thank you for your constructive response.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Not for the first time you make huge assumptions about supporters and their allegiances, Tonteg Bluebird

You appear to state above that ALL (even slightly) pro-Tan's, pro-reds, anti-BU are (quote) "Johnny Come Lately's" which is very much wide of the mark

You repeatedly claim that (quote again) "the stadium is filled with a mixture of 'proper' (blue) fans and 'plastic 'red' fans"

Excuse my French, but what a load of complete b****cks!

EVERY person that steps into that stadium (away support apart) is first and foremost a CARDIFF CITY FC fan (why else would they be there? ) and the politics of what goes on behind the scene is, to most, very secondary to what goes on on the field. Their personal choice of whether to wear red or blue is exactly that...their personal choice. They shouldn't then have to expect to be vilified by others who have an opposing view, which is what you have done above

You say (another quote) "There is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if the REALLY care about the future of our club"

Hmmm, I don't wear red (I still wear blue to games) but I would never be so blinkered as to believe anyone who wears red is some kind of 2nd class, bandwagon-jumping supporter simply because they do (wear red)

Every supporter (including you) will have their own reasons for wearing either colour (or not) but that alone doesn't make them either a 'proper' or a 'plastic' supporter. That particular 'label' would need to come from a far more complex debate

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Not for the first time you make huge assumptions about supporters and their allegiances, Tonteg Bluebird

You appear to state above that ALL (even slightly) pro-Tan's, pro-reds, anti-BU are (quote) "Johnny Come Lately's" which is very much wide of the mark

You repeatedly claim that (quote again) "the stadium is filled with a mixture of 'proper' (blue) fans and 'plastic 'red' fans. Excuse my French, but what a load of complete b****cks!

EVERY person that steps into that stadium is first and foremost a CARDIFF CITY FC fan (why else would they be there? )

Once again you twist things I say. If we weren't in the Premiership, we wouldn't have continuous full houses, so there ARE plastics in the stadium who have only started supporting us properly this season and there is a huge waiting list of GLORY HUNTERS who are only showing an interest because we are in the Premiership and they are waiting to take the place of the PROPER FANS who are being DRIVEN AWAY BY TAN'S DICTATORSHIP AND HIS RIDICULOUS REBRAND. There are also lots of red shirts in the stadium for every home game, although it gives me pleasure to see there has been just as much blue as red on show this season and our away support continues to be at least 90% blue. Keep twisting things to make yourself look a complete prat mind, it's what you do best!

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

If his revenue streams drop dramatically i.e season ticket numbers fall by say 25% then he would listen, until then a soggy petition signed at a Welsh match which probably had more signatures on than the actual attendance means nothing to Tan.

Unfortunately we now have too many johnny come lately fans jumping on the bandwagon so if the proper fans stop going to games, the plastics will go in their place and the stadium will be all red, instead of our current mixture of blue/red spilt of proper fans and plastics in the stadium. As long as the blue doesn't go away, Tan won't have things all his own way. The blue on show is the only opposition we can give to Tan and anyone wearing red after this weeks fiasco is supporting Tan ruining our football club. Anyone I used to see in a red shirt I thought was a plastic, although I was always quiet with my opinion as I realise people accepted the rebrand for differing reasons. However, after this week, there is no excuse for anyone to continue wearing red imo if they REALLY care about the future of our club.

Not for the first time you make huge assumptions about supporters and their allegiances, Tonteg Bluebird

You appear to state above that ALL (even slightly) pro-Tan's, pro-reds, anti-BU are (quote) "Johnny Come Lately's" which is very much wide of the mark

You repeatedly claim that (quote again) "the stadium is filled with a mixture of 'proper' (blue) fans and 'plastic 'red' fans. Excuse my French, but what a load of complete b****cks!

EVERY person that steps into that stadium is first and foremost a CARDIFF CITY FC fan (why else would they be there? )

Once again you twist things I say. If we weren't in the Premiership, we wouldn't have continuous full houses, so there ARE plastics in the stadium who have only started supporting us properly this season and there is a huge waiting list of GLORY HUNTERS who are only showing an interest because we are in the Premiership and they are waiting to take the place of the PROPER FANS who are being DRIVEN AWAY BY TAN'S DICTATORSHIP AND HIS RIDICULOUS REBRAND. There are also lots of red shirts in the stadium for every home game, although it gives me pleasure to see there has been just as much blue as red on show this season and our away support continues to be at least 90% blue. Keep twisting things to make yourself look a complete prat mind, it's what you do best!

Don't make it too personal, fella

I haven't 'twisted' things. I quoted you word for word and if you think I am a 'prat' for believing that fans have a right to make their own decisions without the likes of you TELLING them what they should do/think, then that is ok by me, as I am more than happy to be seen as 'different' to you

What YOU do best is belittle all fellow supporters for having an opinion that is different to yours when it comes to Tan and the red/blue situation

I have never said you shouldn't hold your own specific opinion on the matter, but when you tar every red wearing supporter with the 'plastic' label what do you expect other than criticism?

Equally, your comment about "plastics waiting to take the place of proper fans" is fatally flawed by the FACT that the fans you label as 'plastic' are only filling seats which were already unoccupied when we were in the lower divisions (in either stadium, before you get all precious again )

Surely, even you can see that success attracts interest? Whilst I have been a season ticket holder at the City since school, I can fully understand why many people didn't watch a team floating around the middle leagues with only rare and limited success and being run by people with egos as big as Tan's but with a lot less money to back up their dreams

My whole point to you is that you have 'labelled' whole groups of supporters unfairly and that is simply not right

Not worth the effort, A N Onymous has signed it close to 1000 times

I could write a petition with 100 names on now, it's has no point.

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Point taken, but if anyone thinks I am going to give up supporting my local team to allow one of Tan's disciples to take my place, that simply isn't going to happen. You may be prepared to sit back and allow Tan to do whatever he likes, but I'm going to voice my concerns over what Tan is doing to our club. If I boycott the club, someone in red will take my place. I believe the only way we can show our disapproval to Tan is to keep turning up wearing blue and singing pro blue songs, while not buying any merchandise that's been brought out since the rebrand.

Stop being an elitist prat.

UYou really have turned into Tan's Bitch Chief

Still after everything we STILL get city fans slagging off petitions,. songs and anyone trying to restore OUR clubs colours.

Pathetic, truly pathetic.

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU Inever stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions
But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Point taken, but if anyone thinks I am going to give up supporting my local team to allow one of Tan's disciples to take my place, that simply isn't going to happen. You may be prepared to sit back and allow Tan to do whatever he likes, but I'm going to voice my concerns over what Tan is doing to our club. If I boycott the club, someone in red will take my place. I believe the only way we can show our disapproval to Tan is to keep turning up wearing blue and singing pro blue songs, while not buying any merchandise that's been brought out since the rebrand.

Stop being an elitist prat.

UYou really have turned into Tan's Bitch Chief

How? I dont support Tan, I dont support Malky, I dont support Bluebirds United.
I support Cardiff City.
Also im a realist and dont believe the petition will make a blind bit of difference.
Also if you want to "unite" people stop slagging fans off.

This thread seems to sum up why Tan gets away with some of the things that he has.
Firstly it should be applauded that BU has the forsight to start a petition. Surely as fans who care about our club, identity and preserving what little we have left then we should not be opposed to any group trying their best to do something to change the situation especially as we all fear that there is more to come.

Some of the comments posted on this thread are nothing but shameful. To suggest that the survey is meaningless because not every season ticket holder has signed or that the petition is worthless because non Cardiff fans have given their support is nonsense.
I myself have signed a Green Peace petition in the past yet I am not an environmentalist and did not live in the locality of the area where they are demonstrating but I did agree with what they were trying to do because they had a just cause, so was my signature worthless?

I will agree however with some of the comments on here that Tan will not care one hoot for any petition but we all know this and its because of his attitude towards us that we should at least try and oppose his actions.
The reason that we attract signatures from outside of our fan base is that Tan and his actions are a symptom of what is going on in modern football. The fact that fans or people from outside our club disagree with Tans actions and are prepared to sign make their support no less valid.

So instead of attacking the BU actions I would ask what else can we do? Gwyn for example once wrote on this forum that "once Tan has consolodated his position then we will give him what for" Well Gwyn that time is upon us so I would be interested in what actions that you are now considering but rest assured like the BU you will have my complete support.

Absolutely pointless, when City have 22,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list of about 5,000-10,000, can no one at BU see this.

I'm a season ticket holder and I'm 100% against Tan and 100% behind BU. There are many other season ticket holders with the same opinion as me. Our season ticket numbers mean absolutely nothing on this matter. If I stop going to games, a glory hunting red will take my place. I can't give up supporting my local team, I definitely will not allow one of Tan's sheep take my place and I am 100% willing to stand up for our identity and help force Tan out!

It's amazing how many pro reds refuse to acknowledge this point of principle. Then again they haven't got many alternative arguments to call upon

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Here we go again. If u boycott the club, a plastic takes your place therefore your protest is as diluted to nothing. To anyone who feels strongly about the matter, turn up and wear blue (this is encouragement not a directive. I wouldn't want to be accused of acting like tan) and keep the issue live. He'll go before you will

Tonteg Blue
You stated you are 100% behind BU
I never stated you are a member of BU
I never offered any defense of Tans actions

But I do think that Tan can do what the f**k he likes, he owns the club it's his money but if I felt as strongly about the matter as you I would boycott the club until he departed or met my demands

Here we go again. If u boycott the club, a plastic takes your place therefore your protest is as diluted to nothing. To anyone who feels strongly about the matter, turn up and wear blue (this is encouragement not a directive. I wouldn't want to be accused of acting like tan) and keep the issue live. He'll go before you will

If I felt that strongly about someone taking the piss out of me the last thing i would do is give him my hard earned money, sorry if that offends people