HAS THIS WEEK'S EVENTS CHANGED OPINION?

When we were promoted to the Premier League and subsequently spent a large portion of money, I always felt that if results were not up to scratch then despite his popularity among us fans, Malky Mackay would be the sole man responsible for the results.

Vincent Tan provided the funds for Malky to try and build a squad capable of remaining in the Premier League. The owner had played his part and no matter what your thoughts were of him he had given Malky the necessary tools to succeed.

But has this weeks events changed opinions on who would be to blame should results not be not as expected?

Will fans now look at Vincent Tan and not Malky Mackay should things go pear shaped on the pitch, even though they may have gone that way anyhow, has what looks like an undermining of the manager strengthened Malky's status of popularity among the fans?

Personally I feel that Malky's popularity has been strengthened by events outside of his control whether or not they have a direct effect on results.

Another couple of first half performances like Newcastle and the fans would have started questioning Malkys ability.

The arguments would have been Tan has provided but Malky has not delivered. This would have been a good situation for Tan to look at a replacement for Malky because I believe he thinks Malky has taken us as far as he can.

However the appearance of the painter has turned that all around for Malky. The fans are now questioning Tans mentality.

I believe Tan will turn this around by removing Malky, taking the hit from the fans then winning us over by bringing in a big name manager.

If malky is still our manager for the jacks then the support he will get will be incredible especially if we can get 2 points or more from our next 2 games

There is definately an agenda here. I'm inclined to agree that tan thinks Malky has taken us as far as he can,and a big name will be appointed to satisfy Malaysian markets. Tan has made a huge mistake in his handling of the situation though.

I think it's more a case of Tan thinks I have spent X amount and I want instant success, and as we have seen at other clubs, people with that much money seem to think it is just a case of pays your money and guaranteed results, sorry!!! welcome to football.

Either he will learn quickly and leave it to Malky, or have an expensive lesson, keep changing managers and spend a fortune.

My hope would be, he realises he's out of his depth and sells us to some rich chap who either knows what he's doing, or leaves it to the manager to do his job.

Frankly , it's a credit to Malky he's held his counsel ! Top guy , a credit to the game & our club ! Sadly , I cannot attribute the same words to Tan Sri Vincent Tan !

Trouble is no matter how good a manager is he can only do so much with the hes got, and lets be honest to be top ten or higher we would need to have spent 100 million, as more than half the team are championship players.Most established prem teams are expierienced at this level and have built squads who know how to grind out results.

Football fans are very fickle , if we are winning everything is great , when we are losing we blame everyone . After the WHU game Malky was inept , after the Spurs game he was.out of his depth , first half against NUFC , he didn't have a clue , all comments I heard and read on here .
Tan was never mentioned , all blame on the football field was on Malky's shoulders.
But I think that all could change the next couple of games .
We are fully behind malky at the moment , but if we go on a losing streak , we the fans will soon change our opinion and some fans will be asking for a change .
That's the nature of the beast that is called football .
I personally think we have a very good manager and will back him all season .
But like all football fans i have a very selective memory and success is paramount .
If he was to be replaced by a foreign famous name , who has a successful record , and took us to the next level . It would be the case of Malky who .
Hand on heart we would all be the same .

Nope because Im looking at the big picture.

The facilities and platform we now have as a football club are unbelievable and that is down to Tans money.

Yes Tans making some mistakes but hes propelled this football club into a different universe.

Malky can be replaced hes not Alex Ferguson ffs. Quite frankly I dont care for his negative football and welcome a change of manager.

Mario, name a better one, then one who would work under Tan and available. Surely a better one wouldnt be unemployed or hes doing a good job for the club hes at, and wouldnt want to leave

lose heavily to us and malky will be history

Stuff you, and hes safe untill end of that month, maybe what a way to run a club.

Mario, name a better one, then one who would work under Tan and available. Surely a better one wouldnt be unemployed or hes doing a good job for the club hes at, and wouldnt want to leave

Its up to the Tan to find that man not me.

Its an attractive job. PL is regarded as best in the world (debatable) and few opportunitys come up so there would be many takers wether they are in a job or not.

Look at Southampton i bet very few would change back to Adkins now and he won them two promotions.

Id like Zola myself at least we would be entertained not bored shitless with bent necks watching Malkys hoofball.

If Malky were to get the sack then any new manager would want a big budget in January to bring in his own players. Don't think tan would be willing to do that but probably doesn't even realise how difficult it would be to get a superior manager to Malky to come to us. Malky has majorly overachieved so far this season. Tan has to let Malky do his job and support him if we are going to stay up. Personally think Tan will have Malky gone by December and bring in a random guy from some weird country to be a puppet manager so that he can have more control. Maybe he thinks he could put Bellamy in charge and control him but I don't think that would end well. This will end up costing us our place in the premier league and most of our decent players will leave.

When we were promoted to the Premier League and subsequently spent a large portion of money, I always felt that if results were not up to scratch then despite his popularity among us fans, Malky Mackay would be the sole man responsible for the results.

Vincent Tan provided the funds for Malky to try and build a squad capable of remaining in the Premier League. The owner had played his part and no matter what your thoughts were of him he had given Malky the necessary tools to succeed.

But has this weeks events changed opinions on who would be to blame should results not be not as expected?

Will fans now look at Vincent Tan and not Malky Mackay should things go pear shaped on the pitch, even though they may have gone that way anyhow, has what looks like an undermining of the manager strengthened Malky's status of popularity among the fans?

Personally I feel that Malky's popularity has been strengthened by events outside of his control whether or not they have a direct effect on results.

I wonder if tan has looked at southamptons performances over the last 8 months and thinks we should be doing the same. As I have said before it took Southampton 10 games to get just 4 points and when they sacked Nigel Adkins there was uproar from all over the football world especially when the new manager couldn't speak a word of English.
But look at them now and to be fair I don't think any Southampton fan gives Adkins a second thought now.
To be honest if Malky walked or was sacked and the new non English speaking manager took us to an eighth place finish how many of our fan base would mourn for Malky.
Football fans are the most fickle people around with our fan base somewhere near the top .

its not adding up. i think tan got a few tricks up his sleeve. brings in a painter boy? which i think is very well educated, sounds stupid/ then finds out his father is a multi millionaire. maybe he wants to get the old man intrested . then invest some money? think tan maybe taking 1 step back. to go two steps forward later.

When we were promoted to the Premier League and subsequently spent a large portion of money, I always felt that if results were not up to scratch then despite his popularity among us fans, Malky Mackay would be the sole man responsible for the results.

Vincent Tan provided the funds for Malky to try and build a squad capable of remaining in the Premier League. The owner had played his part and no matter what your thoughts were of him he had given Malky the necessary tools to succeed.

But has this weeks events changed opinions on who would be to blame should results not be not as expected?

Will fans now look at Vincent Tan and not Malky Mackay should things go pear shaped on the pitch, even though they may have gone that way anyhow, has what looks like an undermining of the manager strengthened Malky's status of popularity among the fans?

Personally I feel that Malky's popularity has been strengthened by events outside of his control whether or not they have a direct effect on results.

I wonder if tan has looked at southamptons performances over the last 8 months and thinks we should be doing the same. As I have said before it took Southampton 10 games to get just 4 points and when they sacked Nigel Adkins there was uproar from all over the football world espectially when the new manager couldn't speak a word of English.
But look at them now and to be fair I don't think any Southampton fan gives Adkins a second thought now.
To be honest if Malky walked or was sacked and the new non English speaking manager took us to an eighth place finish how many of our fan base would mourn for Malky.
Football fans are the most fickle people around with our fan base somewhere near the top .

totally agree malkys done a good job but if he was to go it would depends on who comes in

The way this has been handled has increased Malky's popularity. It's a matter of principle. The manager should be allowed to manage football matters. That's how it works, on the whole, in this country. If the team performances are not good, them the manager gets the sack. But the manager should have complete control over football matters, with no interference. That includes his whole team, coaches, scouts, physios, dietitians, the lot.

Malky has been badly undermined this week.

But look back to half time at the Newcastle game. After the good performance at Fulham, a lot of people were questioning our tactics, even our attitude.

One way or another, its difficult to see Malky lasting much longer.

Hope I'm wrong, and that things pick up.

Had a gutsfull of the Premier League already. Red shirts, and now all this crap

When we were promoted to the Premier League and subsequently spent a large portion of money, I always felt that if results were not up to scratch then despite his popularity among us fans, Malky Mackay would be the sole man responsible for the results.

Vincent Tan provided the funds for Malky to try and build a squad capable of remaining in the Premier League. The owner had played his part and no matter what your thoughts were of him he had given Malky the necessary tools to succeed.

But has this weeks events changed opinions on who would be to blame should results not be not as expected?

Will fans now look at Vincent Tan and not Malky Mackay should things go pear shaped on the pitch, even though they may have gone that way anyhow, has what looks like an undermining of the manager strengthened Malky's status of popularity among the fans?

Personally I feel that Malky's popularity has been strengthened by events outside of his control whether or not they have a direct effect on results.

I wonder if tan has looked at southamptons performances over the last 8 months and thinks we should be doing the same. As I have said before it took Southampton 10 games to get just 4 points and when they sacked Nigel Adkins there was uproar from all over the football world especially when the new manager couldn't speak a word of English.
But look at them now and to be fair I don't think any Southampton fan gives Adkins a second thought now.
To be honest if Malky walked or was sacked and the new non English speaking manager took us to an eighth place finish how many of our fan base would mourn for Malky.
Football fans are the most fickle people around with our fan base somewhere near the top .

Spot on Steve, I really hope Malky stays long term and fullfills his and our potential.
But it does crack me up that some of those making the most noise would turn on him and call for his head if we lost three games on the spin.

Eddie May the legend, can you remember when the fans turned on him, Eddie out, Eddie out, people got short but selective memories.

Nope because Im looking at the big picture.

The facilities and platform we now have as a football club are unbelievable and that is down to Tans money.

Yes Tans making some mistakes but hes propelled this football club into a different universe.

Malky can be replaced hes not Alex Ferguson ffs. Quite frankly I dont care for his negative football and welcome a change of manager.

Can't agree sorry Mario.
To only casually admit Tan has made mistakes and then to dismiss this as being somehow acceptable because he has propelled us is sweeping the issue under the carpet. Tan has indeed propelled us especially this week into a laughing stock and not for the first time.
You state that you are looking at the bigger picture but the bigger picture is that we have lost Moody and there is noboby currently undertaking his role at the club except for a young lad who will not offer anywhere near the expertise that we have lost.
As for your last comment about Malky not being Alex Ferguson and playing negative football then I would remind you that not many teams would come from behind against Man City and win plus the fact that if you look at our results then we have not yet lost by more than a single goal which is something that most of us would not have believed at the start of the season.

I believe he's looking forty miles down the road,seeing the money they've spent and that's a massive part of all this.

I don't think it's just that Tan's expectations are just unrealistic - I suspect he is beginning to think that 'his' £33 million could have been spent more wisely. And when you consider that when Odemwingie isn't on the pitch, we are playing with the same midfield and attack as last season, he may have a case.

Another couple of first half performances like Newcastle and the fans would have started questioning Malkys ability.

The arguments would have been Tan has provided but Malky has not delivered. This would have been a good situation for Tan to look at a replacement for Malky because I believe he thinks Malky has taken us as far as he can.

However the appearance of the painter has turned that all around for Malky. The fans are now questioning Tans mentality.

I believe Tan will turn this around by removing Malky, taking the hit from the fans then winning us over by bringing in a big name manager.

Wouldnt surprise me and sounds about right to me

My opinion on this hasn't really changed.

Tan has put a lot of money into his project, he doesn't want it failing after one season.

I looked in my paninni album and Iain Moody isn't mentioned. Perhaps Tan doesn't think he is very good and doesn't trust him with HIS money. Malky probably got told "If you don't like it, resign". The sub text being you are still an emplyee albeit an important one.

The foreign kid, won't be a permanent position. His dad will cut in for a slice when Tan own 98%.

We get a director of football reporting to Tan similar to the continental model.

We stay in the division.

Football fans are very fickle , if we are winning everything is great , when we are losing we blame everyone . After the WHU game Malky was inept , after the Spurs game he was.out of his depth , first half against NUFC , he didn't have a clue , all comments I heard and read on here .
Tan was never mentioned , all blame on the football field was on Malky's shoulders.
But I think that all could change the next couple of games .
We are fully behind malky at the moment , but if we go on a losing streak , we the fans will soon change our opinion and some fans will be asking for a change .
That's the nature of the beast that is called football .
I personally think we have a very good manager and will back him all season .
But like all football fans i have a very selective memory and success is paramount .
If he was to be replaced by a foreign famous name , who has a successful record , and took us to the next level . It would be the case of Malky who .
Hand on heart we would all be the same .

Love your avator!!

When we were promoted to the Premier League and subsequently spent a large portion of money, I always felt that if results were not up to scratch then despite his popularity among us fans, Malky Mackay would be the sole man responsible for the results.

Vincent Tan provided the funds for Malky to try and build a squad capable of remaining in the Premier League. The owner had played his part and no matter what your thoughts were of him he had given Malky the necessary tools to succeed.

But has this weeks events changed opinions on who would be to blame should results not be not as expected?

Will fans now look at Vincent Tan and not Malky Mackay should things go pear shaped on the pitch, even though they may have gone that way anyhow, has what looks like an undermining of the manager strengthened Malky's status of popularity among the fans?

Personally I feel that Malky's popularity has been strengthened by events outside of his control whether or not they have a direct effect on results.

7 games in ...what did he expect

My opinion hasn't changed one bit. We've still got a fantastic manager and a fruit bat owner who has / is making our football club a laughing stock.

I believe he's looking forty miles down the road,seeing the money they've spent and that's a massive part of all this.

Are you joking? They spent almost 20 million on bony and shelvy ffs.
Tan won't be envious of their position will he as they are below us.
Saints is no doubt what hes looking at. Maybe he should have bought wanyama then?
Tan will take us down this season, not the manager or the fans, just the megalomaniac.

Never a dull moment supporting the City.
The club as moved forward at such a speed since Tan took the reigns but things look like they could implode .
Not really worried what others think but slightly worried that all the good work could be undone in a flash .

Id like Zola myself at least we would be entertained not bored shitless with bent necks watching Malkys hoofball.

Are you shitting me?