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You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

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5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

The people praying for that cure will be over the moon to hear that from you, Allan

Have you ever thought about going into politics?

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

The people praying for that cure will be over the moon to hear that from you, Allan


Have you ever thought about going into politics?

Well can anyone name a cancer ect ect with a cure? treatment yes but then that suites big companies! Hiv only medication no cure! Every time they announce possible cure its always ten yrs or so away, its forgotten about then hey presto' another breakthrough? Process starts again more funding ect ect, to much of a cynic to be politician!

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

The people praying for that cure will be over the moon to hear that from you, Allan


Have you ever thought about going into politics?

Well can anyone name a cancer ect ect with a cure? treatment yes but then that suites big companies! Hiv only medication no cure! Every time they announce possible cure its always ten yrs or so away, its forgotten about then hey presto' another breakthrough? Process starts again more funding ect ect, to much of a cynic to be politician!

Allan, 3 short years ago my mother died from non-smoking related Lung Cancer at the relatively young age of 65. Prior to that (15 years+ previous) she had survived Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma thanks to the 'major advancement' of treatments in that area around that time.

She was eventually given the 'all clear' and lived many happy years that she might not have had if people hadn't donated the funds to allow research and development of appropriate medicines and cures

The doctors/staff at Velindre Hospital (and later the MacMillan Nurses) were superb and deserve EVERY ounce/penny of support they can possibly get in their efforts to find further reliefs/cures for those blighted with a disease that on 50 years ago condemned them to an almost certain (and painful) death sentence

In my opinion, there is a cure for all illnesses/diseases out there somewhere and it is with horror that I read your post

Sorry, fella (I usually like your posts) but a 'con' it is definitely not; just ask the people who have managed to live longer lives and their families

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

I'm generally very cynical but cures and advancement in medicine are usually the result of a progression in the understanding of the disease.

It's a step by step process.

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

I'm generally very cynical but cures and advancement in medicine are usually the result of a progression in the understanding of the disease.

It's a step by step process.

Indeed, fella

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC

Sadly that's too late for some here, notably Angelis whose dementia has got worse with every post

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC

Sadly that's too late for some here, notably Angelis whose dementia has got worse with every post

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

The people praying for that cure will be over the moon to hear that from you, Allan


Have you ever thought about going into politics?

Well can anyone name a cancer ect ect with a cure? treatment yes but then that suites big companies! Hiv only medication no cure! Every time they announce possible cure its always ten yrs or so away, its forgotten about then hey presto' another breakthrough? Process starts again more funding ect ect, to much of a cynic to be politician!

Allan, 3 short years ago my mother died from non-smoking related Lung Cancer at the relatively young age of 65. Prior to that (15 years+ previous) she had survived Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma thanks to the 'major advancement' of treatments in that area around that time.

She was eventually given the 'all clear' and lived many happy years that she might not have had if people hadn't donated the funds to allow research and development of appropriate medicines and cures

The doctors/staff at Velindre Hospital (and later the MacMillan Nurses) were superb and deserve EVERY ounce/penny of support they can possibly get in their efforts to find further reliefs/cures for those blighted with a disease that on 50 years ago condemned them to an almost certain (and painful) death sentence

In my opinion, there is a cure for all illnesses/diseases out there somewhere and it is with horror that I read your post

Sorry, fella (I usually like your posts) but a 'con' it is definitely not; just ask the people who have managed to live longer lives and their families

Sven I take people every day I work yo hospitals to have treatment for cancer last one was not pretty sight face cancer! Someone I take regularly to Cardiff as just been told its terminal, so maybe con is strong but like I said don't find cures for anything just build up hopes then start on another project when people forget, my x partner as ms do you know stem cell therapy can cure it?
Her friend had treatment in Switzerland it worked but then govmt stopped people going why? Nothing is being done in this country,
I repeat we ar told that there is breakthrough and cure is always ten yrs away but not one cure as been found!

Part 2! The reason don't want cure is if find cure won't need all the different expensive drugs they sell to nhs every year, I worked for 25yrs in nhs before retirement, so no what goes on with drugs and way nhs is conned into buying certain drugs even when have no clinical use to patients! Same with generic drugs tesco paracetamol is same as branded one cosing 4 times as much its endemic in nhs. Hope you understand bit better my point

The problem with modern medicine is that they treat the symptoms rather than finding a cure or better still a way of preventing the illness in the first place. I will use my arthritis as an example. When I suffered in the recent past I could barely walk at times with a stick. I was treated with a Non Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug (NSAID's), which help to reduce the inflammation, but have the side effects of increasing stomach acid. Since I am affected by stomach problems, I then had to take Omeprazole to counter the effects of the increased stomach acid. Luckily I didn't have side effects from the Omeprazole , but some people will. Furthermore, I still needed painkillers and yet with all these drugs I still needed a walking stick. After researching on the internet I found that in Jamaica, Mauritius and Northern Thailand have a very low level of Boron in the soil and high levels of arthritis in their populations; alternatively, Carnarvon in W. Australia has very high levels of Boron in the soil. I started taking a Boron supplement and also cider vinegar and honey every day, after reading about the polar explorer, Sir Ranulph Fiennes OBE using the cider vinegar and honey to overcome his arthritis. I discussed this with my Doctor, who thought it was worth a try , but wasn't convinced. It has worked for me and I have no pain. Further research has probably highlighted what has been the cause, I suffer from IBS, and this can cause malabsorption of some vitamins and minerals. If I hadn't looked for alternatives to modern medicine I would still be suffering with my arthritis.

5 TO 10 YEARS AWAY. CCFC atollah:

You name me one cure that as happened over the past 20yrs coming from supposedly break throughs? Its all a con to get more funding!

The people praying for that cure will be over the moon to hear that from you, Allan


Have you ever thought about going into politics?

Well can anyone name a cancer ect ect with a cure? treatment yes but then that suites big companies! Hiv only medication no cure! Every time they announce possible cure its always ten yrs or so away, its forgotten about then hey presto' another breakthrough? Process starts again more funding ect ect, to much of a cynic to be politician!

Allan, 3 short years ago my mother died from non-smoking related Lung Cancer at the relatively young age of 65. Prior to that (15 years+ previous) she had survived Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma thanks to the 'major advancement' of treatments in that area around that time.

She was eventually given the 'all clear' and lived many happy years that she might not have had if people hadn't donated the funds to allow research and development of appropriate medicines and cures

The doctors/staff at Velindre Hospital (and later the MacMillan Nurses) were superb and deserve EVERY ounce/penny of support they can possibly get in their efforts to find further reliefs/cures for those blighted with a disease that on 50 years ago condemned them to an almost certain (and painful) death sentence

In my opinion, there is a cure for all illnesses/diseases out there somewhere and it is with horror that I read your post

Sorry, fella (I usually like your posts) but a 'con' it is definitely not; just ask the people who have managed to live longer lives and their families

Sven I take people every day I work yo hospitals to have treatment for cancer last one was not pretty sight face cancer! Someone I take regularly to Cardiff as just been told its terminal, so maybe con is strong but like I said don't find cures for anything just build up hopes then start on another project when people forget, my x partner as ms do you know stem cell therapy can cure it?
Her friend had treatment in Switzerland it worked but then govmt stopped people going why? Nothing is being done in this country,
I repeat we ar told that there is breakthrough and cure is always ten yrs away but not one cure as been found!

Allan, that's very interesting. My own wife has MS and so does Mrs Nukes and both would benefit hugely from such treatments being made available

I know money will always be a factor, but if people (doctors, donors, fund-raisers, etc.) don't at least try then we might just as well give up and just pray that it happens to"someone else" rather than ourselves or those we love

I know where you are coming from with your job taking terminally ill patients around. My own job sees me interacting and dealing with people who suffer many types of issue and it can be both stressful and enlightening at the same time and I know for a fact (through personal experiences) that those affected/inflicted would rather have a crumb of hope than be told "it'll never happen"

Sven yes agree must have hope its what keeps people going! I am just a synic when big companies are concerned, they fund research then when cure is possibility like what we talking about it never happens! Why? Can use cars as example why are battery/hydrogen powered cars not the the norm? No need for petrol ect technology is there but not used why? Not in interest of big oil companies maybe? This is what I mean.

Sven yes agree must have hope its what keeps people going! I am just a synic when big companies are concerned, they fund research then when cure is possibility like what we talking about it never happens! Why? Can use cars as example why are battery/hydrogen powered cars not the the norm? No need for petrol ect technology is there but not used why? Not in interest of big oil companies maybe? This is what I mean.

Research into treatments for various illnesses take a long time. Even if they find something they have to make sure it causes no other side effects and it wont harm the patients themselves. Then you got to take into account that they are highly regulated by a number of different agencies.

As for cancer and HIV treatment the biggest problem facing both is the high mutation rate. HIV especially they have found methods to prevent HIV however it mutates so much that previous treatments are ineffective. However, with current science we are not far off from treating them.

And going to your anology about cars the reason for battery powered and Hydrogen powered cars is simple, its the cost and effiency of them. Right now the current batterys being produced are either not effiecent enough or dont provide enough energy to out way petrol cars but they are also too expensive. Theres again also the safety of the batterys themselves

I recently finished my masters degree in chemistry and within that I studied 'medicinal chemistry' modules which is the development of drugs. I can honestly say it is incredibly difficult to develop these drugs and the amount of money and research that goes into making them is completely justified. The human body and nature is a complete mystery with the chemical reactions going on, no matter how much we like to think we know, and trying to develop a drug to get through so many barriers in the body so that a specific part of the drug can react with the issue at hand is quite a feat. It has to be able to get into your body, get transported to where you need it through things like the small intestine, it has to cope potentially with the stomach acids if possible, get through cell membranes etc and all this without reacting with other chemicals in the body and preventing it working before it is where you need it. You have to add protecting groups to the active part of the molecule you want and have this removed inside the body at a specific moment amongst other things, incredible stuff.

I'll never doubt researchers and I will fully appreciate every drug that I may have to use in the future!

A very interesting piece in today's Times regarding the OP.
Rather than a cure, this seems to be the first step - the step that proves it is possible to find a cure. I doubt however that it will actually happen in the next 10 years or even 20 years, but for the younger generation it certainly offers hope against one of the cruelest of illnesses, as anyone that has had a family member suffer through it, will know.

The problem with finding cures for illnesses like Alzheimers Disease (AD) is that the current scientific paradigm in western countries involves research funded by Research Councils(RC's), which are all top heavy with industrialists with vested interests. These industrialists are mainly in Chemical, Petro-Chemical or Pharmaceutical Industries.
When considering AD there has been shown to be a link with Aluminium in water and dialysis treatment, yet there is very little research into whether reduced exposure to Aluminium in the environment could PREVENT AD. The RC's are not keen to pursue this type of research, as if proven it could open the floodgates to compensation from industries such as those who cause acid rain, which leeches Aluminium out of the soil; and also from the water companies who use Aluminium in the treatment process. There are also links with BSE and CJD. All three are basically heavy metal poisoning, where the bodies defence mechanism has been depleted (a copper complex), by exposure to compounds like Organophosphates, which are used to treat Warble Fly infection in cattle and for sheep dip. Organophosphates are very nasty insecticides produced from chemicals used as military nerve gases. Anyone who disputes these links may want to look at what happens to any prominent scientist who publishes research papers on these links. They usually end up dead in mysterious car crashes.

Professional hit on Saitoh, world class scientist!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr596777/posts

What causes BSE, CJD & MS? Organic Farmer Mark Purdey on Organophosphates (2001) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheeiX2w8JU

Excellent news!

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

I am desperately sorry for you, Brighton & Hove Albion

I know you will do all that you can and I 100% agree with your 'tax' comments

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

I am desperately sorry for you, Brighton & Hove Albion

I know you will do all that you can and I 100% agree with your 'tax' comments

Thanks mate.

All partys are the same

Noticed how they don't give a shit about people like you and me and care about being the savouirs of offer countrys. Cnut!

I do find this upsetting when that lady comes on about Cancer.

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

I am desperately sorry for you, Brighton & Hove Albion

I know you will do all that you can and I 100% agree with your 'tax' comments

Thanks mate.

All partys are the same

Noticed how they don't give a shit about people like you and me and care about being the savouirs of offer countrys. Cnut!

I do find this upsetting when that lady comes on about Cancer.

Wow! I'd not seen that. Thanks for 'linking' it

That's the problem we have. Governments (and this one in particular) that are so focussed on being 'up the arse' of certain other countries in order to keep up the pretence that the UK is still a 'world leader' that they would see their own people denied what would be life-changing solutions to their ailments

Cameron (like Blair before him) is not only a liar, he is a devoid of any compassion and concern for the working class

You take care, fella. I hope to meet up with you when Brighton reach the Premier League; hopefully at Swansea, Palarse or Stoke City's (long story ) expense!

Sven yes agree must have hope its what keeps people going! I am just a synic when big companies are concerned, they fund research then when cure is possibility like what we talking about it never happens! Why? Can use cars as example why are battery/hydrogen powered cars not the the norm? No need for petrol ect technology is there but not used why? Not in interest of big oil companies maybe? This is what I mean.

Research into treatments for various illnesses take a long time. Even if they find something they have to make sure it causes no other side effects and it wont harm the patients themselves. Then you got to take into account that they are highly regulated by a number of different agencies.

As for cancer and HIV treatment the biggest problem facing both is the high mutation rate. HIV especially they have found methods to prevent HIV however it mutates so much that previous treatments are ineffective. However, with current science we are not far off from treating them.

And going to your anology about cars the reason for battery powered and Hydrogen powered cars is simple, its the cost and effiency of them. Right now the current batterys being produced are either not effiecent enough or dont provide enough energy to out way petrol cars but they are also too expensive. Theres again also the safety of the batterys themselves

Fuel cells are a type of battery which are almost THREE TIMES AS EFFICIENT AS THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE. The problem is that the patents for this type of technology are held by companies still making bundles from the existing automotive and petro-chemical industries and are not a priority until crude oil becomes a lot scarcer.

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

I am desperately sorry for you, Brighton & Hove Albion

I know you will do all that you can and I 100% agree with your 'tax' comments

Thanks mate.

All partys are the same

Noticed how they don't give a shit about people like you and me and care about being the savouirs of offer countrys. Cnut!

I do find this upsetting when that lady comes on about Cancer.

Wow! I'd not seen that. Thanks for 'linking' it

That's the problem we have. Governments (and this one in particular) that are so focussed on being 'up the arse' of certain other countries in order to keep up the pretence that the UK is still a 'world leader' that they would see their own people denied what would be life-changing solutions to their ailments

Cameron (like Blair before him) is not only a liar, he is a devoid of any compassion and concern for the working class

You take care, fella. I hope to meet up with you when Brighton reach the Premier League; hopefully at Swansea, Palarse or Stoke City's (long story ) expense!

I know it's a hard time with finance when things keep going up apart from wages. Thanks for the PMs and you was right. You are a level headed bloke and sound, take care

My dad has dementia and I look after him full time now after jacking my job in yesterday. Horrible decease. I've had to sacrifice my job and life style to care for him.

My mum dies at Christmas of Cancer and now it's just me and my dad who has cancer as well as dementia, double wammy. It breaks my heart watching my dad wasting away in front of my eyes. Not enough is done to look after people with such conditions and what really makes me angry is when the NHS say they can't afford cancer drugs to prolong his life as they haven't the funds but the Goverment can afford international aid of billions to countrys like India who are developing their own space programs.

I paid my taxes for people like you and me and my father to get top treatment not see my father denied drugs but see my taxes spent abroad.

I am desperately sorry for you, Brighton & Hove Albion

I know you will do all that you can and I 100% agree with your 'tax' comments

Thanks mate.

All partys are the same

Noticed how they don't give a shit about people like you and me and care about being the savouirs of offer countrys. Cnut!

I do find this upsetting when that lady comes on about Cancer.

Wow! I'd not seen that. Thanks for 'linking' it

That's the problem we have. Governments (and this one in particular) that are so focussed on being 'up the arse' of certain other countries in order to keep up the pretence that the UK is still a 'world leader' that they would see their own people denied what would be life-changing solutions to their ailments

Cameron (like Blair before him) is not only a liar, he is a devoid of any compassion and concern for the working class

You take care, fella. I hope to meet up with you when Brighton reach the Premier League; hopefully at Swansea, Palarse or Stoke City's (long story ) expense!

I know it's a hard time with finance when things keep going up apart from wages. Thanks for the PMs and you was right. You are a level headed bloke and sound, take care

Strewth, don't let one or two on here know I'm sensible. I have an on-line persona to keep up! LOL

I appreciate your words and I know how looking after someone close has an affect no matter how willing you are to do it

You take care of yours and I hope things work out all round