Will Malky rue not signing a decent wide man in the summer?

For all the steel and solidaty added in the summer with Medel and Caulker I cant help but feel that are still seriously short in the attacking department.

Bellamy past it, Whitts for all his technical ability isnt going to beat a man, he hasnt got the pace, would prefer to see him back in the middle, and Odemwingie clearly not a winger, long term he has to pushed up front.

Kim has been made out to be some kind of superstar prematurely in my opinion, one or two jinking runs against mMan City but hes been anonymous in most of the other games.

Its difficult to see where the goals are going to come from open play and considering weve spent what? 35m? have we really imporved our attacking options? i dont think so.

Worringly,its not like we were free scoring from open play last season and some pace and creativity I felt should have been top of the priority list. Yet weve signed 2 right backs. Bizarre.

I really hope Malkys stubborness with Jefferson Montero dont end up biting him on the bum and come January its not too late.

Malky is not playing to our strengths which are height, trickery footwork and countering. He is playing to our weaknesses and that is allowing pressure to come back on to us at a fast rate by playing Turner. We do not have the wingers who can routinely beat a man but we do have wingers who can cut inside and play intricate through balls in, in the Silva and Mata type of player.

Malky is playing the dumbest formation for this type of deployment though because he is too scared we'll be exposed at the back and is playing safety first all of the time.

If he plays

Marshall

Theo
Hudson
Caulker
Taylor

Medel

Kim
Mutch
Bellamy

Whittingham

Odemwingie

4-1-3-1-1

Then we have the CAM in Whitts just behind Odemwingie who can drift on the edge of the box and be there for the cut backs. Kim and Bellamy can both cut inside and Mutch can power forward and get in the box for support and he offers height. He is also a box to box midfielder and can aid Medel defensively when we're on the back foot.

Hudson over Turner. Sorry but Turner is damaging to the team. His hoof ball is getting ridiculous now. If we really need to keep doing that then pass it back to Marshall to kick it up there. If not then just play it out. Kim and Bellamy also are high work rate players so those 3 can cover on Medel when needed to make 2 banks of 4 with Whitts and Odemwingie staying up.

Malky is not playing to our strengths which are height, trickery footwork and countering. He is playing to our weaknesses and that is allowing pressure to come back on to us at a fast rate by playing Turner. We do not have the wingers who can routinely beat a man but we do have wingers who can cut inside and play intricate through balls in, in the Silva and Mata type of player.

Malky is playing the dumbest formation for this type of deployment though because he is too scared we'll be exposed at the back and is playing safety first all of the time.

If he plays

Marshall

Theo
Hudson
Caulker
Taylor

Medel

Kim
Mutch
Bellamy

Whittingham

Odemwingie

4-1-3-1-1

Then we have the CAM in Whitts just behind Odemwingie who can drift on the edge of the box and be there for the cut backs. Kim and Bellamy can both cut inside and Mutch can power forward and get in the box for support and he offers height. He is also a box to box midfielder and can aid Medel defensively when we're on the back foot.

Hudson over Turner. Sorry but Turner is damaging to the team. His hoof ball is getting ridiculous now. If we really need to keep doing that then pass it back to Marshall to kick it up there. If not then just play it out. Kim and Bellamy also are high work rate players so those 3 can cover on Medel when needed to make 2 banks of 4 with Whitts and Odemwingie staying up.

Hudson over turner I'm sorry I no he does hoof it but he's better than Hudson
All day

"I know he hoofs it but...."

Perhaps we wouldnt need to defend half as much as we have to if he didnt hoof the f*cking ball turning posession over to them 90% of the time.

personally id like to see, well at home anyway...

........................Medel..........................
...................Whitts & Mutch...................
Kimbo........................................Bellamy (but preferably a new winger in January this is a must for me)
...............Chicken Wingie.......................

Kimbo can drift inside ala Silva as you mention and ive put him on the right as Theo is very good at over lapping. Whitts can pull strings from the centre and Mutch can drive forward with the ball.

personally id like to see, well at home anyway...

........................Medel..........................
...................Whitts & Mutch...................
Kimbo........................................Bellamy (but preferably a new winger in January this is a must for me)
...............Chicken Wingie.......................

Kimbo can drift inside ala Silva as you mention and ive put him on the right as Theo is very good at over lapping. Whitts can pull strings from the centre and Mutch can drive forward with the ball.

Completely agree with this Whitts is wasted outwide for us and we do need a winger come January

personally id like to see, well at home anyway...

........................Medel..........................
...................Whitts & Mutch...................
Kimbo........................................Bellamy (but preferably a new winger in January this is a must for me)
...............Chicken Wingie.......................

Kimbo can drift inside ala Silva as you mention and ive put him on the right as Theo is very good at over lapping. Whitts can pull strings from the centre and Mutch can drive forward with the ball.

Seconded. We trained Whitts to be a central midfield playmaker for two season then to revert back to a position he last played 3 seasons ago ??????. Although with the shape of some of those crosses last Saturday our great Dane may fancy him on the diagonal.

"I know he hoofs it but...."

Perhaps we wouldnt need to defend half as much as we have to if he didnt hoof the f*cking ball turning posession over to them 90% of the time.

What it is that teams have sussed us out on how we play like Newcastle every time the defence had the ball they kept closing down the defence witch made them shit so they hoof it up coz it wasn't just turbner that game.

"I know he hoofs it but...."

Perhaps we wouldnt need to defend half as much as we have to if he didnt hoof the f*cking ball turning posession over to them 90% of the time.

What it is that teams have sussed us out on how we play like Newcastle every time the defence had the ball they kept closing down the defence witch made them shit so they hoof it up coz it wasn't just turbner that game.

"I know he hoofs it but...."

Perhaps we wouldnt need to defend half as much as we have to if he didnt hoof the f*cking ball turning posession over to them 90% of the time.

What it is that teams have sussed us out on how we play like Newcastle every time the defence had the ball they kept closing down the defence witch made them shit so they hoof it up coz it wasn't just turbner that game.

Load of BOLLOCKS. Fed up of these apologists i really am.

He does it when NOT pressured so its obviously a pre determined tactic.

He also done it most of last season unless that escaped your notice.

after chasing Ince for so long it seemed clear it was a position he thought was important, so to go and sign no-one is a bit strange.

Got rid of Conway, smith not good enough, noone not good enough and bellamy not the player of old..... coupled with the fact i think odemwingie is more of a central striker and we are desperately short.

Id say, we even need 2 wingers.

Downing for 5m was great business by West ham

"I know he hoofs it but...."

Perhaps we wouldnt need to defend half as much as we have to if he didnt hoof the f*cking ball turning posession over to them 90% of the time.

What it is that teams have sussed us out on how we play like Newcastle every time the defence had the ball they kept closing down the defence witch made them shit so they hoof it up coz it wasn't just turbner that game.

Load of BOLLOCKS. Fed up of these apologists i really am.

He does it when NOT pressured so its obviously a pre determined tactic.

He also done it most of last season unless that escaped your notice.
Well its eve malky telling him or its him but I still wouldn't have him dropped tho been solid in defence just is passing that let's I'm down

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

Dropping Whitts would be daft. His set plays are our most likely source of goals at the minute.


Away from home I can understand but at home surely youve got to move Whitts into the middle at the expenxe of Gunnar and play with more pace on the wing.

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

Dropping Whitts would be daft. His set plays are our most likely source of goals at the minute.


Away from home I can understand but at home surely youve got to move Whitts into the middle at the expenxe of Gunnar and play with more pace on the wing.

Got to agree with that, it's got to be the way forward for us

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

Dropping Whitts would be daft. His set plays are our most likely source of goals at the minute.


Away from home I can understand but at home surely youve got to move Whitts into the middle at the expenxe of Gunnar and play with more pace on the wing.

I meant he is undroppable not unstoppable. His free kicks and corners are our main threat.

I think if we drop gunnar he has to be replaced by a box to box player. United use cleverly. Liverpool use Henderson, city have toure. I don't think we have anyone good enough for that role. With kiss and whitts the likely outcome.

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

Dropping Whitts would be daft. His set plays are our most likely source of goals at the minute.


Away from home I can understand but at home surely youve got to move Whitts into the middle at the expenxe of Gunnar and play with more pace on the wing.

I meant he is undroppable not unstoppable. His free kicks and corners are our main threat.

I think if we drop gunnar he has to be replaced by a box to box player. United use cleverly. Liverpool use Henderson, city have toure. I don't think we have anyone good enough for that role. With kiss and whitts the likely outcome.

Youre forgetting Mutch. As i said in another thread at home I would go with a midfield 3 of Medel, Whitts and Mutch. Kim drfiting in from outwide in a similair role to David Silva (Theo to overlap as hes decent going forward) plus a pacy winger on the other side, Bellamy will have to do for now but a quality winger should have been bought in the summer and must be sorted in early January.

I think we massively miss not having a winger of quality.

Can't go 352 as we can't trust ourselves to keep possession from the back unless we can get to Gary each time.

Think we need to keep going 451 to pack the middle and hope Campbell can find the net.

Just wish witts was 2 yards faster. He's just to slow.for the league but unstoppable due to his set play delivery.

Dropping Whitts would be daft. His set plays are our most likely source of goals at the minute.


Away from home I can understand but at home surely youve got to move Whitts into the middle at the expenxe of Gunnar and play with more pace on the wing.

I meant he is undroppable not unstoppable. His free kicks and corners are our main threat.

I think if we drop gunnar he has to be replaced by a box to box player. United use cleverly. Liverpool use Henderson, city have toure. I don't think we have anyone good enough for that role. With kiss and whitts the likely outcome.

Youre forgetting Mutch. As i said in another thread at home I would go with a midfield 3 of Medel, Whitts and Mutch. Kim drfiting in from outwide in a similair role to David Silva (Theo to overlap as hes decent going forward) plus a pacy winger on the other side, Bellamy will have to do for now but a quality winger should have been bought in the summer and must be sorted in early January.

Yes I did forget mutch. That would work.

I'd like 2 Sat in front of the back 4 allowing Taylor and Theo to be more attacking. Theo had a mare positionally but can't half get forward.

Realistically we need to just survive and then bring in another centre half, winger, another Gary and a forward.

I'm sure Malky is more than aware though, but who we can get for such money we have, who want to come to us and who will improve us is another matter.

can see us going back in for Montero tbh

personally id like to see, well at home anyway...

........................Medel..........................
...................Whitts & Mutch...................
Kimbo........................................Bellamy (but preferably a new winger in January this is a must for me)
...............Chicken Wingie.......................

Kimbo can drift inside ala Silva as you mention and ive put him on the right as Theo is very good at over lapping. Whitts can pull strings from the centre and Mutch can drive forward with the ball.

I think you'll find this will be the formation come Norwich if not the personnel. Malky is moving towards Mutch in a central role which i think he will be in vs Chelsea but with Whitts out wide(ish) instead of Kim, and Gunnar holding with Medel.

Norwich will be different though as I think they will try and get 3 points before a very tough month; and i think what you use above is probably quite close.

Campbell for all his industry is going to be swapper for Peter O and Gunnar is playing himself out the team whilst also being outplayed by Mutch. Kim is on another steep learning curve but will be a lot more productive going forward in my view with 2 centre mids (whitts and mutch) who can pick a pass.

We are certainly missing someone with pace who can carry the ball in wide areas.

I Honestly think it will we've got no outlet for our midfield players to find when we are on the ball so it just comes back at us, I've also noticed the teams we are playing can see we've got no pace out wide so they are pushing both their full backs more forward on us.

personally id like to see, well at home anyway...

........................Medel..........................
...................Whitts & Mutch...................
Kimbo........................................Bellamy (but preferably a new winger in January this is a must for me)
...............Chicken Wingie.......................

trouble is we would be ripped to pieces down the right side with kimbo drifting inside and tc bombing forward he's very willing to bomb forward as we saw on Saturday. I agree with a quick winger might keep opposition on the back foot more instead of inviting them forward

Time to risk Harris coming off the bench?

I thought we played very well against fulham so can understand malky picking the same team and formation against newcastle, The same players who were superb against Fulham(medel,caulker,gunnar) didnt perform on saturday for whatever reason,
I just cannot understand why malky didnt bring noone on against newcastle.At least hed have give it a go and tried to run at the opposition

Won't be getting anyone with Borat as our Head of Recruitment

Time to risk Harris coming off the bench?

he didnt get a look in against West Ham in a pretty meaningless cup match
Im probably closer to the first team then Harris

Iain Moody will.

Iain Moody will.