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Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:30 am

'Your support is f*cking shit'

Has never been so true

Posh area mind, that Tennis club didn't know what hit them 'your just a shit andy Murray' :lol:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:34 pm

Might be a posh area, but the worst catering I have seen for a long time. The tea was very strange, burger luke warm, at best.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:16 pm

Few points of reply about our support.

Back in the day in the 40s, 50s and 60s when Fulham was a normal, working class area we used to average 25-30,000 year on year, with 49,335 being the record crowd for a 2nd division derby against Millwall.

In the 70s, and 80s, Fulham started to become more gentrified, and the local support was forced out of the area due to prices.

Please remember, Fulham is one of 3 teams in the same borough! (let alone one of 12-13 teams in London), and back then our crowds in the old second division averaged about 9-10,000.

All of us who were there back then remain, but our rapid rise through the divisions at the end of the nineties inevitably brought outsiders and tourists etc. and now, as an establised (for the moment!) Premier League team, our avaerage gate of 25,000 is made up primarily of newbies who add absoultely nothing to the atmosphere.

To be frank, it negates the atmosphere, and together with all seater stadiums now, the old, hardcore support is so diluted around the stadium that it now far too sedate, granted.

We do have our moments, and our run to the Europa League final in 2010 brought a few loud, atmospheric atmospheres.

Our away form is also relatively small compared to the home gates, but that is totally understandable because a) the problem above with only a relatively low number of 'real' fans compared to the home gates now, and b) when you've been in the top flight for over 12-13 years, and have a family to consider, the decision to spend £100+ on yet another defeat tends to get made for you!

Now don't get me wrong, your support was good yesterday, but it always gives me a wry smile when a club from a capital city, with only 2 other league clubs in the whole country, and a massive catchment area from all the surrounding valleys, thinks that taking 4,000+ to London in their first year back in the Premier League is anything other than the least expected.

You don't need the 'prawn sandwich brigade, because there are enough traditional football people to fill your stadium at the drop of a hat, and therefore you should take thousands of loud support everywhere.

When we come to Cardiff, we might only bring 500-1,000, but that's not bad considering our catchment area, and those fans will be the ones (lime me) who used to come to Ninian Park back in the day, and will be just as passionate as your 4,000.

Finally, well done on your victory, as there was only one team who seemed to want it yesterday, and hopefully when we come to yours we give you more of a game!

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:20 pm

Welcome to the Forum.

Cheers Harefield and very good and interesting post :ayatollah:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Welcome to the Forum.

Cheers Harefield and very good and interesting post :ayatollah:


Ta mate, probably won't have time to come on again to be fair - just wanted to give a reasoned defence of our 'support'

;)

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:14 pm

I was totally amazed at the lack of vocal support for Fulham, a few chants of "Come on Fulham" and that was it. Even when they scored the goal it was pathetic.

I suppose those, having just had their lead singer "Michael Jackson" removed from the cottage it left them pretty flat :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:19 pm

HarefieldFFC wrote:Few points of reply about our support.

Back in the day in the 40s, 50s and 60s when Fulham was a normal, working class area we used to average 25-30,000 year on year, with 49,335 being the record crowd for a 2nd division derby against Millwall.

In the 70s, and 80s, Fulham started to become more gentrified, and the local support was forced out of the area due to prices.

Please remember, Fulham is one of 3 teams in the same borough! (let alone one of 12-13 teams in London), and back then our crowds in the old second division averaged about 9-10,000.

All of us who were there back then remain, but our rapid rise through the divisions at the end of the nineties inevitably brought outsiders and tourists etc. and now, as an establised (for the moment!) Premier League team, our avaerage gate of 25,000 is made up primarily of newbies who add absoultely nothing to the atmosphere.

To be frank, it negates the atmosphere, and together with all seater stadiums now, the old, hardcore support is so diluted around the stadium that it now far too sedate, granted.

We do have our moments, and our run to the Europa League final in 2010 brought a few loud, atmospheric atmospheres.

Our away form is also relatively small compared to the home gates, but that is totally understandable because a) the problem above with only a relatively low number of 'real' fans compared to the home gates now, and b) when you've been in the top flight for over 12-13 years, and have a family to consider, the decision to spend £100+ on yet another defeat tends to get made for you!

Now don't get me wrong, your support was good yesterday, but it always gives me a wry smile when a club from a capital city, with only 2 other league clubs in the whole country, and a massive catchment area from all the surrounding valleys, thinks that taking 4,000+ to London in their first year back in the Premier League is anything other than the least expected.

You don't need the 'prawn sandwich brigade, because there are enough traditional football people to fill your stadium at the drop of a hat, and therefore you should take thousands of loud support everywhere.

When we come to Cardiff, we might only bring 500-1,000, but that's not bad considering our catchment area, and those fans will be the ones (lime me) who used to come to Ninian Park back in the day, and will be just as passionate as your 4,000.

Finally, well done on your victory, as there was only one team who seemed to want it yesterday, and hopefully when we come to yours we give you more of a game!


Excellent post. I'm old enough to remember Fulham in the pre-PL days. Enjoyed yesterday, obviously, but good to be back in a great old ground. All the best for the rest of the season.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:44 pm

Fusilier23 wrote:I was totally amazed at the lack of vocal support for Fulham, a few chants of "Come on Fulham" and that was it. Even when they scored the goal it was pathetic.

I suppose those, having just had their lead singer "Michael Jackson" removed from the cottage it left them pretty flat :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:


brilliant mate :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:07 pm

Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:17 pm

PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?



............................and surely you should be on your own forum - feck off Jack :wave:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:19 pm

PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

1500 to Hull, and 300 to West Ham?... wasn't it 91 in WBA wednesday? 170 at Sunderland last year?

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:22 pm

Fusilier23 wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?



............................and surely you should be on your own forum - feck off Jack :wave:


Nibble, nibble. Bit touchy about that, eh? Suppose it's hard to take when Swansea took 2.5k to Valencia, 2k to Palace and nearly 1k to Brum in the space of a week.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:26 pm

CalShepCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

1500 to Hull, and 300 to West Ham?... wasn't it 91 in WBA wednesday? 170 at Sunderland last year?


Not at all. We weren't even at WBA, you tool.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:27 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
Fusilier23 wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?



............................and surely you should be on your own forum - feck off Jack :wave:


Nibble, nibble. Bit touchy about that, eh? Suppose it's hard to take when Swansea took 2.5k to Valencia, 2k to Palace and nearly 1k to Brum in the space of a week.


2.5k to Valencia

:laughing6:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:28 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
Fusilier23 wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?



............................and surely you should be on your own forum - feck off Jack :wave:


Nibble, nibble. Bit touchy about that, eh? Suppose it's hard to take when Swansea took 2.5k to Valencia, 2k to Palace and nearly 1k to Brum in the space of a week.



Not at all - just wish you WUM would feck off as you spoil this forum. :thumbup: Have to go now - got work in the morning :wave:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:28 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

1500 to Hull, and 300 to West Ham?... wasn't it 91 in WBA wednesday? 170 at Sunderland last year?


Not at all. We weren't even at WBA, you tool.


It was nearly 800 at Brum. 450 at Sunderland. Pretty impressive for a Wednesday night. Suppose Cardiff would have taken more, but then most of you could have had two days off school. Not so easy when you're old enough to work

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:40 pm

Didn't they only give us 4000 ? I don't think we have totally convinced the Met we are family club of the year :old:

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:44 pm

PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?



1400 at Hull. Considering we'd taken 2500 there at the end of last season too, that was excellent. let's see howmany you take.

As for West ham we'd taken 3500 there a few weeks earlier.

I confidently predict our away followings will be significantly better than yours this season and better than you had in your first year up as well.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:46 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

1500 to Hull, and 300 to West Ham?... wasn't it 91 in WBA wednesday? 170 at Sunderland last year?


Not at all. We weren't even at WBA, you tool.


It was nearly 800 at Brum. 450 at Sunderland. Pretty impressive for a Wednesday night. Suppose Cardiff would have taken more, but then most of you could have had two days off school. Not so easy when you're old enough to work

What a knob,fishing on a rivals forum,says it all really

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:47 pm

This seasons facts on Cardiff's Support.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:48 pm

PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

Why are sad cretins like this allowed to constantly ruin threads? Seriously the admin need to sort this kind of thing out

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:58 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:Remind me again how many fans went to Hull. Less than 1000 wasn't it? And wasn't it 286 you took to West Ham? Surely. Club like Cardiff should be taking more than that away?

1500 to Hull, and 300 to West Ham?... wasn't it 91 in WBA wednesday? 170 at Sunderland last year?


Not at all. We weren't even at WBA, you tool.


It was nearly 800 at Brum. 450 at Sunderland. Pretty impressive for a Wednesday night. Suppose Cardiff would have taken more, but then most of you could have had two days off school. Not so easy when you're old enough to work


709 is nearly 800 these days then is it - the figure quoted by your lads on here... :laughing6:

and you took 404 to Sunderland.


What we have taken to Fulham and West Ham so far this season is almost double what you took last season, and in your 1st year up you took just 2350 to Fulham as well (no Wets Ham in the div that season).

Here are the figures in case you have forgotten...

2012-13 season away support figures

Arsenal – 3000
Aston Villa – 2600
Chelsea – 1498
Everton – 955
Fulham – 2221
Liverpool – 877
Manchester City – 1890
Manchester United – 1868
Newcastle – 1001
Norwich – 698
QPR – 2400
Reading – 2109
Southampton – 2799
Stoke – 1270
Sunderland – 404
Tottenham – 1379
West Brom – 1433
West Ham – 1895
Wigan – 541

Average – 1623

2011-12 season away support figures

Arsenal – 2914
Aston Villa – 3011
Blackburn – 2577
Bolton – 2799
Chelsea – 3173
Everton – 2210
Fulham – 2350
Liverpool – 3100
Manchester City – 2698
Manchester United – 3083
Newcastle – 1501
Norwich – 1197
QPR – 1404
Stoke – 2038
Sunderland – 1010
Tottenham – 2999
West Brom – 2506
Wigan – 2184
Wolves – 2102

Average – 2360

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:58 pm

HarefieldFFC wrote:Few points of reply about our support.

Back in the day in the 40s, 50s and 60s when Fulham was a normal, working class area we used to average 25-30,000 year on year, with 49,335 being the record crowd for a 2nd division derby against Millwall.

In the 70s, and 80s, Fulham started to become more gentrified, and the local support was forced out of the area due to prices.

Please remember, Fulham is one of 3 teams in the same borough! (let alone one of 12-13 teams in London), and back then our crowds in the old second division averaged about 9-10,000.

All of us who were there back then remain, but our rapid rise through the divisions at the end of the nineties inevitably brought outsiders and tourists etc. and now, as an establised (for the moment!) Premier League team, our avaerage gate of 25,000 is made up primarily of newbies who add absoultely nothing to the atmosphere.

To be frank, it negates the atmosphere, and together with all seater stadiums now, the old, hardcore support is so diluted around the stadium that it now far too sedate, granted.

We do have our moments, and our run to the Europa League final in 2010 brought a few loud, atmospheric atmospheres.

Our away form is also relatively small compared to the home gates, but that is totally understandable because a) the problem above with only a relatively low number of 'real' fans compared to the home gates now, and b) when you've been in the top flight for over 12-13 years, and have a family to consider, the decision to spend £100+ on yet another defeat tends to get made for you!

Now don't get me wrong, your support was good yesterday, but it always gives me a wry smile when a club from a capital city, with only 2 other league clubs in the whole country, and a massive catchment area from all the surrounding valleys, thinks that taking 4,000+ to London in their first year back in the Premier League is anything other than the least expected.

You don't need the 'prawn sandwich brigade, because there are enough traditional football people to fill your stadium at the drop of a hat, and therefore you should take thousands of loud support everywhere.

When we come to Cardiff, we might only bring 500-1,000, but that's not bad considering our catchment area, and those fans will be the ones (lime me) who used to come to Ninian Park back in the day, and will be just as passionate as your 4,000.

Finally, well done on your victory, as there was only one team who seemed to want it yesterday, and hopefully when we come to yours we give you more of a game!


Fantastic post,thanks for your input...there are so many of our own fans on here who live in cloud-cuckoo land.

Re: Fulham fans

Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:03 pm

Spent 10 minutes watching tennis in the area, quite enjoyed it. :lol:

Re: Fulham fans

Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:25 am

Another thread that the obsessed jacks can't help posting in :roll: :oops: