' BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW '

By Carl Curtis

Saturday September 28th 2013

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... nt-6105437

.....if you want to see flair, creativity and silky skills then Cardiff City are not the team to watch.


I think the next two games are opportunities to pick up points and I would like to see Odemwingie replace Craig Bellamy.

um Id say Kimbo has all of the above.
Hate the idea people have of Swansea being a skill full team how? The pass the ball around I mean its not like they play like brazil or have a real trickster like Ronaldhino, Ronaldo ,bale ect. Is it?

Also agree that odemwingie should start today. Can't wait to go to it now

I agree on Bellamy, he looked like a passenger against Spurs. I would think that Ben Turner is just carrying out orders, when he keeps hitting those long balls. It is supposed to take pressure off the defence, but in reality, they 9 out of 10, give possession away and the ball comes right back, so that tactic needs tweaking by Malky.
I see most of our threat coming from Kevin Cath, overlapping and getting the ball into Campbell or Odders in the coming weeks. I think mid field also need to take more responsibility in getting goals, Kim in particular needs to take opportunities when they come, from what I have seen , mid field have seemed scared to get a shot off.

I think if you look at the he teams we have played we have needed to play the way we have to even have a chance of getting something out of the games .
When we play teams that are on our level like today I think we will see a different approach and a more attack minded team .

Exactly. We've played man city, Everton and spurs at home, probably 3 out of the top 7. If people think you can judge our style of play for the season on these games then so be it, but I think it's naive. Sometimes you play how teams let you.

Exactly. We've played man city, Everton and spurs at home, probably 3 out of the top 7. If people think you can judge our style of play for the season on these games then so be it, but I think it's naive. Sometimes you play how teams let you.

Totally agree , even if you add west ham away which was our first game at this level , a very hard place to start for any team and hull away which is a game we just couldn't really lose we have done really well

Our season starts today IMO , hopefully we will see the other side of our play today and really give it a go

I'd play a 4-3-3 with a false 9 to be honest as I think pace could really hurt their defence and if we play clever we can get Odemwingie and Bellamy in on goal as inside forwards.

Malky won't though as usual and it'll be 9-0-1 and we'll concede late again.

L --> R

Marshall

Taylor
Turner
Caulker
Theophile

Medel
Kim
Mutch

Bellamy
Campbell
Odemwingie

Medel and Mutch would both add strength with Kim the playmaker. Medel can also pass very well. Perfect 3 for strength, defensive work and creativity. Bellamy has a high work rate as does Campbell and Odemwingie can stay up. They can then switch on attacks. Both Bellamy and Odemwingie can go wide or cut inside.

Its sad that Malky has no faith in our team to attack and be creative. He has spent all that money on a defensive midfielder (Medel) and he needs to be frigging babysat every game by Gunnarsson because Malky don't believe he is capable of doing the job himself. What a joke. Its hurting us in terms of offence and he needs to learn the further up the field we are playing the less risk to us becoming under constant pressure albeit we can be hit on the counter but I'd rather than than just see out 80 minutes and concede anyway.

If that don't work then bring on Whittingham, Cowie and Gestede and just whack balls in the box as much as possible and hope he can get a goal by just being a nuisance in the box and something drops down.

Fed up with Malky's style.

Fulham 1-0 Cardiff - Berbatov to score

Exactly. We've played man city, Everton and spurs at home, probably 3 out of the top 7. If people think you can judge our style of play for the season on these games then so be it, but I think it's naive. Sometimes you play how teams let you.

Totally agree , even if you add west ham away which was our first game at this level , a very hard place to start for any team and hull away which is a game we just couldn't really lose we have done really well

Our season starts today IMO , hopefully we will see the other side of our play today and really give it a go

Laughable. We were equally shit vs Hull and if it weren't for a piece of one touch passing brilliance to set up Whittingham we'd have lost that as well. I wish people would stop making excuses for Malky just because of what hes done at the club. Nobody is denying what he has done and he'll always be respected for that but its the here and now we must worry about if we are to stay up, not our Championship winning season.

Exactly. We've played man city, Everton and spurs at home, probably 3 out of the top 7. If people think you can judge our style of play for the season on these games then so be it, but I think it's naive. Sometimes you play how teams let you.

Totally agree , even if you add west ham away which was our first game at this level , a very hard place to start for any team and hull away which is a game we just couldn't really lose we have done really well

Our season starts today IMO , hopefully we will see the other side of our play today and really give it a go

Laughable. We were equally shit vs Hull and if it weren't for a piece of one touch passing brilliance to set up Whittingham we'd have lost that as well. I wish people would stop making excuses for Malky just because of what hes done at the club. Nobody is denying what he has done and he'll always be respected for that but its the here and now we must worry about if we are to stay up, not our Championship winning season.

Nobody has to make excuses for malky , his tactics so far against the teams we have played have proved spot on in most cases . We beat a team that will arguably be champions this year with the exact formation you are saying doesn't work .
We kept out a team in spurs who will be top 4 until the dying seconds with a fantastic defensive counter attacking display in which we could/ should have scored 2/3 goals , not many teams will get anything against them .
We gained a great point against everton , yes we didn't play very well but we still got a point off ANOTHER top 6 team .
We got a point away to a fellow newly promoted team at there place which man city will tell you is no easy task

Now we head into a run of games which are in all honesty a lot easier in theory than our first 5 I'm sure we will see a more ambitious city , maybe playing with medel as a lone def mid and pushing gunnarsson further forward . There will not be many changes to our formation and I'm glad because it will keep us up .

You are not going to change your style of play by dacking the manager.
You have played long ball football dor a number of years and buy players to suit your systems.
The way you are playing now is the best chance u have of staying up as its what your players now and do best, should u bring a new manger in who plays football u will go down because it yakes yime to adjust to new ways of playing , not just on the pitch but in training.
We only bring in players who suit our way of play and more offten orn not they can just step straight in.

You really do talk through your arse.Whilst you're entitled to your opinion I think I'll trust Malky's Judgement over Angelis' every time.I do admit that if you prefer city getting beat 4-1 or 5-2 every week then your idea on how we should be set up may have some merit,but because it didn't work for blackpool a couple of seasons ago I think its fair to assume it wouldn't work for us either.If you think winning matches at this level is all about tactics and how you set up a team then you are a simpleton.You must have the personnel too.

You are not going to change your style of play by dacking the manager.
You have played long ball football dor a number of years and buy players to suit your systems.
The way you are playing now is the best chance u have of staying up as its what your players now and do best, should u bring a new manger in who plays football u will go down because it yakes yime to adjust to new ways of playing , not just on the pitch but in training.
We only bring in players who suit our way of play and more offten orn not they can just step straight in.

Well well well this has taken me by surprise.

No argument from me on this one. Swansea have continued their style of play from league one to the premier and it is a system that is working for them. Personally I feel the Cardiff system will produce the same outcome and that being premier survival. It might not be as pleasing on the eye but this is a business game we watch these days.

Although the Jacks did not see this at the time but Sousa move to Leicester turned out to be a godsend for them.

It's true. Take away Kim and we are so stale and dull to watch. It's constant long ball and an incapability to score great goals in open play. It really says something when we cheer so loudly for a corner, because we know it's one of the only ways we can score. It's been like this for three years now.

Kim offers creativity, but he's the only creative player in the squad. Bellamy has lost it, and Kim is the only one who can properly beat players with skill and technique.

We aren't a fun team to watch. There's nothing special about us, we just either get the job done or the terrible long ball tactic bites us in the arse.

It's true. Take away Kim and we are so stale and dull to watch. It's constant long ball and an incapability to score great goals in open play. It really says something when we cheer so loudly for a corner, because we know it's one of the only ways we can score. It's been like this for three years now.

Kim offers creativity, but he's the only creative player in the squad. Bellamy has lost it, and Kim is the only one who can properly beat players with skill and technique.

We aren't a fun team to watch. There's nothing special about us, we just either get the job done or the terrible long ball tactic bites us in the arse.

Totally disagree with your "constant long ball" claim. We've played some good stuff at times and if anything I've been more frustrated with players trying to over pass some moves when the shot is on. Your moaning because we haven't created lots of chances against 3 of the best teams in the PL. We've played a total of 5 games on the PL and many of our players haven't played in the PL at all. Give us time to adjust.

I don't understand all this negative stuff. If there were better officials in the Spurs match then Lloris would have been sent off and /or Turner's goal would have stood and we would be above Man U in the table. We've had 60% of our games against top clubs and the other 40% away of which only the Hull game was a realistic one to expect points from, which we obtained. The other game was against West Ham who only dropped 4 points at home against last season's bottom 12 clubs.

You are not going to change your style of play by dacking the manager.
You have played long ball football dor a number of years and buy players to suit your systems.
The way you are playing now is the best chance u have of staying up as its what your players now and do best, should u bring a new manger in who plays football u will go down because it yakes yime to adjust to new ways of playing , not just on the pitch but in training.
We only bring in players who suit our way of play and more offten orn not they can just step straight in.

Well well well this has taken me by surprise.

No argument from me on this one. Swansea have continued their style of play from league one to the premier and it is a system that is working for them. Personally I feel the Cardiff system will produce the same outcome and that being premier survival. It might not be as pleasing on the eye but this is a business game we watch these days.

Although the Jacks did not see this at the time but Sousa move to Leicester turned out to be a godsend for them.

Not sure what you mean by your last line. We were all delighted to see the back of him as was the board.
As far as you lot are concerned I can't get over some of the rubbish that has been posted on here having ago at your manager/ players. I wonder if its down to us surviving relatively easily? For the past couple of years many on here have been slagging the quality of the pl, which at times has been way off the mark. Guess what lads its a right tough league this and anybody can tear you apart on their day. You have new players settling in and a manager with no experience of top flight management. Guess what you will lose more than you win and you will get a hiding or two along the way. But ffs get off peoples backs otherwise you'll be fecked.

I don't understand all this negative stuff. If there were better officials in the Spurs match then Lloris would have been sent off and /or Turner's goal would have stood and we would be above Man U in the table. We've had 60% of our games against top clubs and the other 40% away of which only the Hull game was a realistic one to expect points from, which we obtained. The other game was against West Ham who only dropped 4 points at home against last season's bottom 12 clubs.

Correction, we would now be 4th in the table and who would criticize that?

I did say play Mutch. Glad Malky read the forum and listened to my suggestion.

I did say play Mutch. Glad Malky read the forum and listened to my suggestion.