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Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:57 pm
Is now the time to make the a change to the starting eleven and replace Bellamy with perhaps Odemwingie?
Bellamy is not at his absolute best at the moment and hopefully it is nothing more than a blip but do we need to inject pace in to the team and certainly out wide by bringing in another player and perhaps drop Bellamy?
Thoughts please.
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:59 pm
I would tend to agree I feel Bellers needs a good rest
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:01 pm
Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:03 pm
caerblue wrote:Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
It is a difficult one as Bellamy is a leader and a true winner and that is something that is instilled in a player but nevertheless I feel he is not firing on all cylinders and Malky should look to switch it up a little starting tomorrow.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:08 pm
carlccfc wrote:caerblue wrote:Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
It is a difficult one as Bellamy is a leader and a true winner and that is something that is instilled in a player but nevertheless I feel he is not firing on all cylinders and Malky should look to switch it up a little starting tomorrow.
True,he is a leader,but same goes for all the players,if he or anyone aint on form they should be dropped,it's not as if we ain't got back up,we ve moaned for a few seasons,we lacked strength it depth,now we got that,we should use it
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:16 pm
caerblue wrote:carlccfc wrote:caerblue wrote:Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
It is a difficult one as Bellamy is a leader and a true winner and that is something that is instilled in a player but nevertheless I feel he is not firing on all cylinders and Malky should look to switch it up a little starting tomorrow.
True,he is a leader,but same goes for all the players,if he or anyone aint on form they should be dropped,it's not as if we ain't got back up,we ve moaned for a few seasons,we lacked strength it depth,now we got that,we should use it
Totally agree with you.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:23 pm
caerblue wrote:Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
To back up what you say about defensive duties, I got to give Craig Bellamy credit as he has made 12 tackles and won 10 of those.
Only Gunnarrson has made more tackles with 13 so far but has won 8 of them.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:26 pm
My personal opinion.
We've prob seen the best of Bellamy, now and again we will get good games out of him, but not enough, so were carrying him.
Bells is slowing up,to many injuries and his outside life is effecting him to much nowadays, hope I am wrong.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:27 pm
carlccfc wrote:Is now the time to make the a change to the starting eleven and replace Bellamy with perhaps Odemwingie?
Bellamy is not at his absolute best at the moment and hopefully it is nothing more than a blip but do we need to inject pace in to the team and certainly out wide by bringing in another player and perhaps drop Bellamy?
Thoughts please.
Whilst he is not at his best I don't believe the defensive tactics employed in the first few games has helped his cause. That aside I would give odenwingie his chance tomorrow which also allows us to switch to two up front when needed.
I will be disappointed if it's the Same starting eleven because I believe spurs showed everybody how to bypass gunnarson in our midfield and put us under pressure so a change of tactics would not go amiss
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:27 pm
Drop, drop, drop, drop.
Passed it, adds nothing to our overall game. Time to play Odemwingie
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:29 pm
carlccfc wrote:caerblue wrote:Yes,for me at this moment he's only in the team for his defensive ability,he needs to regain his spark at his attacking side,so a spell on the sidelines will do him good,I ve no doubt Bellamy will play a big part this season,but will malky make the change,especially at an away game?
To back up what you say about defensive duties, I got give Craig Bellamy credit as he has made 12 tackles and won 10 of those.
Only Gunnarrson has made more tackles with 13 so far but has won 8 of them.

As they all say you defend from the front,it's good to see him putting in a good shift,but when he signed,we were all hoping he'd be smashing in the goals,his effort was there for all to see last year,but his goals return was very poor,summed it up for me when he didn't even make the pfa team for the championship,he really should have been the first on the team sheet
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:31 pm
Needs a goal and some f*cking support!!!
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 pm
Bellamy offers more attacking than whittingham does so personally I would put Bellamy on the left hand side cutting in and odemwingie on the right, with Campbell up top
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:45 pm
Yes I agree that his best days are behind him but I think he can still give us some extra spark if he were to be used as an impact sub coming on for the last 15-20 minutes.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:51 pm
GJ71 wrote:Yes I agree that his best days are behind him but I think he can still give us some extra spark if he were to be used as an impact sub coming on for the last 15-20 minutes.

Bells would be excellent as a Super Sub, I rem the David Fairclough days at Liverpool, worked perfect.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:20 pm
I don't think the way he's been used recently has helped much, as someone pointed out earlier - tracking back to look out for Connolly seems to have taken himn away from what he's good at. Remember when he first joined us on loan? I know that was a few years ago and under a different manager, but you rarely saw him inside his own half back then.
That said, it wouldn't hurt to drop him for Odemwingie and give him a rest. Hopefully with Theophile also in the side, there'll be less of an onus on Bellers to drop so deep and run his legs off before half time...
Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:22 pm
steve davies wrote:carlccfc wrote:Is now the time to make the a change to the starting eleven and replace Bellamy with perhaps Odemwingie?
Bellamy is not at his absolute best at the moment and hopefully it is nothing more than a blip but do we need to inject pace in to the team and certainly out wide by bringing in another player and perhaps drop Bellamy?
Thoughts please.
Whilst he is not at his best I don't believe the defensive tactics employed in the first few games has helped his cause. That aside I would give odenwingie his chance tomorrow which also allows us to switch to two up front when needed.
I will be disappointed if it's the Same starting eleven because I believe spurs showed everybody how to bypass gunnarson in our midfield and put us under pressure so a change of tactics would not go amiss
Steve I think the first change to the side should be Odemwingie for Bellamy for the reasons you state above.
Second change I would look to make soon would be Jordon Mutch coming in for Gunnarrson.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:43 pm
carlccfc wrote:steve davies wrote:carlccfc wrote:Is now the time to make the a change to the starting eleven and replace Bellamy with perhaps Odemwingie?
Bellamy is not at his absolute best at the moment and hopefully it is nothing more than a blip but do we need to inject pace in to the team and certainly out wide by bringing in another player and perhaps drop Bellamy?
Thoughts please.
Whilst he is not at his best I don't believe the defensive tactics employed in the first few games has helped his cause. That aside I would give odenwingie his chance tomorrow which also allows us to switch to two up front when needed.
I will be disappointed if it's the Same starting eleven because I believe spurs showed everybody how to bypass gunnarson in our midfield and put us under pressure so a change of tactics would not go amiss
Steve I think the first change to the side should be Odemwingie for Bellamy for the reasons you state above.
Second change I would look to make soon would be Jordon Mutch coming in for Gunnarrson.
i agree with both these changes...
Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:27 pm
carlccfc wrote:Is now the time to make the a change to the starting eleven and replace Bellamy with perhaps Odemwingie?
Bellamy is not at his absolute best at the moment and hopefully it is nothing more than a blip but do we need to inject pace in to the team and certainly out wide by bringing in another player and perhaps drop Bellamy?
Thoughts please.
My thoughts are wondering what parallel universe are we inhabiting where people are suggesting that Craig Bellamy could be replaced Odemwingie.
Football is not about statistics and how many passes you make, or how many tackles you make. It is especially not about who looks good going forward. There are 10 outfield players who each have to contribute 10% of a team performance. Bellamys overall contribution is probably worth 15% percent whilst a player like PO would probably be worth 5%.
Bellamy has done a Giggs as he has got older - sacrificed a bit of attacking flair for the good of the rest of the team. He has matured into a more rounded player Cardiff City are no where near good enough to leave out a player of his stature.
Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:41 pm
An excellent post.
Bellamy gives the team so much in terms of spirit, knows the refs and plays them as they need to be played etc
I believe the biggest weak spot we have is lack of nous/experience in dealing with PL situations and refs. Running games.
If he had been playing at Hull I think we would have won. His absence was noticeable.
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:03 am
When Campbell came to the club, Bellamy showed him the Cardiff way, closing down everything and never giving up A "lost cause".
Bellers was quite often used as a support to Campbell, he's been used out right this season and has looked uncomfortable. Bellamy over the last few seasons to me has looked much better wide left , the least he deserves is a game or two out there. Would love to see Odemwingie right, Campbell through middle and Bellamy left particularly at home, maybe next week??
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:06 am
I agree with the jordan mutch change, i dont agree on changing bellamy yet tho, hes 1 of not many natural leaders we got and putting a hell of a shift in during games. Also dont think peter odemwingie shouldnt play wide, prefer him in his natural striker position so if anything id drop frazier.
I dunno what kadeem has to do to make the bench but would love him as an impact player for last 10-15 mins. Be a great outlet with his pace to counter or even to attack teams if result isnt in our favour.
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:25 am
bellamy is being played more of a defensive roll as is the entire team playing on the break,
We have had some very good teams at home so the tactic although a bit negative seems to have worked but teams with quality like spurs will keep going and going and will get there reward in the end .Against the lesser teams I really hope we go at them then bellamy can play to his strengths and that goes for a few others to like whitts he played so deep against spurs not his game either.
I dont think bellamy has lost it he is not being used to his strengths but to be fair the roll he has played he has done very well.
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