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Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:00 pm

Malkys tactics against Tottenham where spot on and they worked.

Campbell should have scored and Lloris should have been sent off.

We did score a perfectly fine goal that got disallowed.

The referee had a mare.

But they couldn't score until the last minute. We should have been at least 2 up because the tactics worked.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:05 pm

They didnt work because we lost, I doubt the plan was to get Lloris sent off.

In saying that im not sure what some people expect, its Spurs, they had a good squad and spent a fortune. I think Spurs will give many a team a thumping, they impressed me and we almost got away with it.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:05 pm

aderynglas wrote:Malkys tactics against Tottenham where spot on and they worked.

Campbell should have scored and Lloris should have been sent off.

We did score a perfectly fine goal that got disallowed.

The referee had a mare.

But they couldn't score until the last minute. We should have been at least 2 up because the tactics worked.


So when you miss a chance its because malkys tactics were correct and they worked. Yet when tottenham do then its ignored? Tottenham had 9 shots on target in the box and 8 on target outside the box.... You had none in or out. It doesnt matter if they score in the 2nd or 92nd minute, never understand why people say that.

The goal was roghtly disallowed and the handball would never ever be given, especially not in the prem, far too close to call in real time.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:15 pm

Obviously our tactics where to sit deep, defend and hopefully nick a goal, that's what we did, and should have done twice....

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:24 pm

aderynglas wrote:Obviously our tactics where to sit deep, defend and hopefully nick a goal, that's what we did, and should have done twice....


So how is that the right tactic when it resulted in no shots on target and 29 shots conceded.... And a defeat.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:27 pm

I thought we got let off lightly, if it was'nt for Marshall we could have got thumped.

I know Spurs are a top class team, but we need to attack more and not just sit back. We looked sloppy with our passing too.

Still, to nearly get a draw against a top team is nice. :)

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:35 pm

2blue2handle wrote:They didnt work because we lost, I doubt the plan was to get Lloris sent off.

In saying that im not sure what some people expect, its Spurs, they had a good squad and spent a fortune. I think Spurs will give many a team a thumping, they impressed me and we almost got away with it.


Every single team in this league has spent. Why are we saying 'Its Spurs'. Did we say 'Its Man City'? No, because we beat them. The attitude of 'if we lose vs the top 6 then so be it as we'll beat the 'lesser' teams' is ridiculous. There are no weak teams in this division and on paper we are probably in the bottom 20% in terms of squad strength.

The tactics didn't work against Spurs because the pressure eventually broke us and we switched off and thats all it takes when you keep letting them have freedom of the final third. Thats what happened and they hit the bar once and we were saved by Marshall plenty of times.

This has become a feature so far this season with him making important saves but Malky cant keep relying on him to bail him out for his inept tactics. Its time he started playing more attacking. That doesn't mean a 4-3-3 but even a diamond formation is more attacking than the 4-5-1 sit deep formation he is currently deploying.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:16 pm

lets also say though that some of spurs shots were just hit from outside the area and were not clear cut chances as they couldnt break us down to get in behind or into the area with any through balls.


we did creat a couple of clear chances but we didnt take them.. they should have been on target but gunnar missed two good opportunities as did campbell with a 1 on 1.


look at liverpool for example last season, countless times they dominated posession, corners, shots on goal etc.. but still failed to win, drawing many.

spurs spent 100 million on 6 players and from what i saw, they looked strong in every department and i failed to spot any weakness in their side. they will def be top 4 this yr... rightly so they got a victory after dominating a game but in football you have to stick in the back of net and thats what counts more than shots, posession corners etc...

just to mention the first corner we had, we stuck it in the net...

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:42 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:They didnt work because we lost, I doubt the plan was to get Lloris sent off.

In saying that im not sure what some people expect, its Spurs, they had a good squad and spent a fortune. I think Spurs will give many a team a thumping, they impressed me and we almost got away with it.


Every single team in this league has spent. Why are we saying 'Its Spurs'. Did we say 'Its Man City'? No, because we beat them. The attitude of 'if we lose vs the top 6 then so be it as we'll beat the 'lesser' teams' is ridiculous. There are no weak teams in this division and on paper we are probably in the bottom 20% in terms of squad strength.

The tactics didn't work against Spurs because the pressure eventually broke us and we switched off and thats all it takes when you keep letting them have freedom of the final third. Thats what happened and they hit the bar once and we were saved by Marshall plenty of times.

This has become a feature so far this season with him making important saves but Malky cant keep relying on him to bail him out for his inept tactics. Its time he started playing more attacking. That doesn't mean a 4-3-3 but even a diamond formation is more attacking than the 4-5-1 sit deep formation he is currently deploying.


you really are deluded aint ya proper WUM

we arent expected to beat top 6 teams, if you think we are id like to know how and why you seem to have a better knowledge than every other pundit, player and manager in the professional ranks.

youre boring and know nothing about football

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:06 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:They didnt work because we lost, I doubt the plan was to get Lloris sent off.

In saying that im not sure what some people expect, its Spurs, they had a good squad and spent a fortune. I think Spurs will give many a team a thumping, they impressed me and we almost got away with it.


Every single team in this league has spent. Why are we saying 'Its Spurs'. Did we say 'Its Man City'? No, because we beat them. The attitude of 'if we lose vs the top 6 then so be it as we'll beat the 'lesser' teams' is ridiculous. There are no weak teams in this division and on paper we are probably in the bottom 20% in terms of squad strength.

The tactics didn't work against Spurs because the pressure eventually broke us and we switched off and thats all it takes when you keep letting them have freedom of the final third. Thats what happened and they hit the bar once and we were saved by Marshall plenty of times.

This has become a feature so far this season with him making important saves but Malky cant keep relying on him to bail him out for his inept tactics. Its time he started playing more attacking. That doesn't mean a 4-3-3 but even a diamond formation is more attacking than the 4-5-1 sit deep formation he is currently deploying.


We switched off for the Spurs goal did we? Could swear you were the one saying how we were "robbed" because Taylor was "clearly fouled" in the build up? You Schizo.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:26 pm

Super Kev wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:They didnt work because we lost, I doubt the plan was to get Lloris sent off.

In saying that im not sure what some people expect, its Spurs, they had a good squad and spent a fortune. I think Spurs will give many a team a thumping, they impressed me and we almost got away with it.


Every single team in this league has spent. Why are we saying 'Its Spurs'. Did we say 'Its Man City'? No, because we beat them. The attitude of 'if we lose vs the top 6 then so be it as we'll beat the 'lesser' teams' is ridiculous. There are no weak teams in this division and on paper we are probably in the bottom 20% in terms of squad strength.

The tactics didn't work against Spurs because the pressure eventually broke us and we switched off and thats all it takes when you keep letting them have freedom of the final third. Thats what happened and they hit the bar once and we were saved by Marshall plenty of times.

This has become a feature so far this season with him making important saves but Malky cant keep relying on him to bail him out for his inept tactics. Its time he started playing more attacking. That doesn't mean a 4-3-3 but even a diamond formation is more attacking than the 4-5-1 sit deep formation he is currently deploying.


We switched off for the Spurs goal did we? Could swear you were the one saying how we were "robbed" because Taylor was "clearly fouled" in the build up? You Schizo.



He constantly changes his mind on this very quickly. I think he is just a troll.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:04 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
aderynglas wrote:Malkys tactics against Tottenham where spot on and they worked.

Campbell should have scored and Lloris should have been sent off.

We did score a perfectly fine goal that got disallowed.

The referee had a mare.

But they couldn't score until the last minute. We should have been at least 2 up because the tactics worked.


So when you miss a chance its because malkys tactics were correct and they worked. Yet when tottenham do then its ignored? Tottenham had 9 shots on target in the box and 8 on target outside the box.... You had none in or out. It doesnt matter if they score in the 2nd or 92nd minute, never understand why people say that.

The goal was roghtly disallowed and the handball would never ever be given, especially not in the prem, far too close to call in real time.


By your reasoning and figures that would mean Spurs had 17 on target and Marshall saved 16?

He had an excellent game but no way did he make that many saves, I was there and I suggest your figures are wrong! :thumbup:

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:35 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:you really are deluded aint ya proper WUM


Good grief you are lacking intellectually. I think you took one too many balls to the head when you were a steward.

we arent expected to beat top 6 teams


Lets phone them up and not bother turning up then and grant them 3-0 forfeit wins. That way we can keep our players fit for the 'lesser' teams we should beat, you know like Hull City, who we, only got a point from......because every team in this division is good and there are no givens. People need to start realising that. You cant just write off games FFS.

:roll:

Don't worry about the next 10 games, we'll just win the last 12 games of the season and that'll take us to 41 points and safety. There's no need to panic. We've got all the time in the world to pick up points vs the lesser teams.

:roll:

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:42 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:you really are deluded aint ya proper WUM


Good grief you are lacking intellectually. I think you took one too many balls to the head when you were a steward.

we arent expected to beat top 6 teams


Lets phone them up and not bother turning up then and grant them 3-0 forfeit wins. That way we can keep our players fit for the 'lesser' teams we should beat, you know like Hull City, who we, only got a point from......because every team in this division is good and there are no givens. People need to start realising that. You cant just write off games FFS.

:roll:

Don't worry about the next 10 games, we'll just win the last 12 games of the season and that'll take us to 41 points and safety. There's no need to panic. We've got all the time in the world to pick up points vs the lesser teams.

:roll:


Your opinion changes like the wind.

And the strength of the wind depends on how many beans you have ate from the can.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:43 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Your opinion changes like the wind.

And the strength of the wind depends on how many beans you have ate from the can.


I've explained this elsewhere. :thumbup:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=123892#p1276078

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:46 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:you really are deluded aint ya proper WUM


Good grief you are lacking intellectually. I think you took one too many balls to the head when you were a steward.

we arent expected to beat top 6 teams


Lets phone them up and not bother turning up then and grant them 3-0 forfeit wins. That way we can keep our players fit for the 'lesser' teams we should beat, you know like Hull City, who we, only got a point from......because every team in this division is good and there are no givens. People need to start realising that. You cant just write off games FFS.

:roll:

Don't worry about the next 10 games, we'll just win the last 12 games of the season and that'll take us to 41 points and safety. There's no need to panic. We've got all the time in the world to pick up points vs the lesser teams.

:roll:


I think you are a WUM just my opinion of course

Ive never said we shouldnt play them, didnt say we couldnt beat them, not writing us off, were just not expected to beat them every time we play a top 6 team as a promoted team the odds are stacked against us home and away. Ignore the pundits football managers players, look at bookmakers and the odds they give and I dont think the average bookmaker likes to throw money away.

Im sort of confused why you seem to be the only person with this opinion and goes against every other persons opinion based on fact and previous results of seasons gone by, the only logical conclussion being you are on a wind up craving attention sad really.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:52 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:Im sort of confused why you seem to be the only person with this opinion and goes against every other persons opinion based on fact and previous results of seasons gone by, the only logical conclussion being you are on a wind up craving attention sad really.


Polo and others like BobbyBlue have said he is tactically inept yet they get no flack whatsoever for stating the obvious truth. However, because its me, its instantly 'you're a wum' to try and save face in your argument because you know deep down, no matter how much you think otherwise through your blind love for Malky, it is the truth.

I admitted I was wrong and Polo was right and he is. The stats back up his claims and if you rewatch the games and analyse them you will see how much pressure is coming back on us and how we invite it. Its playing with fire.

Lets just agree to disagree on this one because I really cant be arsed with the juvenile circular arguments. I hope for the clubs sake you are right and I am wrong and if you are I will hold my hands up and say as I have done in the past that I was wrong.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:02 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:Im sort of confused why you seem to be the only person with this opinion and goes against every other persons opinion based on fact and previous results of seasons gone by, the only logical conclussion being you are on a wind up craving attention sad really.


Polo and others like BobbyBlue have said he is tactically inept yet they get no flack whatsoever for stating the obvious truth. However, because its me, its instantly 'you're a wum' to try and save face in your argument because you know deep down, no matter how much you think otherwise through your blind love for Malky, it is the truth.

I admitted I was wrong and Polo was right and he is. The stats back up his claims and if you rewatch the games and analyse them you will see how much pressure is coming back on us and how we invite it. Its playing with fire.

Lets just agree to disagree on this one because I really cant be arsed with the juvenile circular arguments. I hope for the clubs sake you are right and I am wrong and if you are I will hold my hands up and say as I have done in the past that I was wrong.


I dont have blind love for Malky he has a job to do and his job in my eyes is to keep us up this season, if he cant do it I want to know why. I never look at individual games we will play well in some games and terribly in others through no fault of our own every team has good days and bad days even the best teams in the world. Malky has achieved everything ive asked of him as a fan from season to season. Im not going to criticise him 5 games into a season.

you may not like his tactics as is your right but in my opinion its far too early in the day to write him off in the premier league.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:22 am

Malkys tactics are too defensive, and the team as a whole cannot keep possession (less than 40% against Everton and Spurs).

We won't win many games if we continue to give the ball away so easily and just defend for 90 minutes. And draws won't keep us in this division.

Before the season started i couldn't see where our goals would come from, and i've seen nothing yet to change that opinion.

Re: Tactics against Tottenham, spot on.

Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:22 am

Malkys tactics are too defensive, and the team as a whole cannot keep possession (less than 40% against Everton and Spurs).

We won't win many games if we continue to give the ball away so easily and just defend for 90 minutes. And draws won't keep us in this division.

Before the season started i couldn't see where our goals would come from, and i've seen nothing yet to change that opinion.