' Hindsight question '

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Our 5th game in the prem and you were embarrassed by our team, are you sure you are a Cardiff City fan, i'm by your post

Despite their superiority and certain refereeing decisions, we still nearly took a point from them. They only scored one goal and that was very late in the game. I wasn't embarrassed and I think we'll improve with the players we have.

In the words of Jonesy from Dad's Army: "Don't panic, don't panic!"

Its nothing to do with the players but everything to do with Malky's terrible defensive tactics and deployment. He is going out too often to draw games and try and snatch something but its always safety first. We should be commanding games at home sorry.

I cant see him lasting personally.

West Ham (L)
Man City (W)
Everton (D)
Hull (D)
Spurs (L)

We've conceded in 4/5 games and although we scored twice from set pieces against Man City they mostly controlled that game as well. Spurs did a better job against us and kept harassing us to keep regaining possession. It was like wave after wave of attack against Spurs.

Sorry but soon enough Tan will get frustrated and Malky will be gone unless he bucks up his ideas. Thats the harsh reality of this league and Malky wouldn't be the first or last to face it.

Despite their superiority and certain refereeing decisions, we still nearly took a point from them. They only scored one goal and that was very late in the game. I wasn't embarrassed and I think we'll improve with the players we have.

In the words of Jonesy from Dad's Army: "Don't panic, don't panic!"

Totally misguided view. They dominated the game and had nearly 30 attempts. Thats why people are worried. We even at home are not showing any signs of controlling games and granted, we've played tough teams at home so far, but so have Hull and they have at least in more spells than us knocked it around and dominated spells of a game.

Thats the worry for most.

we didnt controll the game against one of the best sides in the league, what a shocker

we didnt controll the game against one of the best sides in the league, what a shocker

Not even for a spell. We were on the back foot for 90 minutes mate. Sorry, but even the likes of Hull and Palace have controlled games in spells and have been on the front foot applying pressure. We have not. Time to face the reality of Malky's negative tactics.

James, you're old account was Malky Is My God.. Have you changed your opinion again?

mate.

please dont threaten me like that...

I wondered how long it would take for our fans to get restless, and it hasn't taken long has it!!!

I thought we'd at least last until Christmas after a few thrashings

God help the players and Malky if we lose to Fulham on the weekend

James, you're old account was Malky Is My God.. Have you changed your opinion again?

He still is Chuckles for taking us up and I will always respect him for that, doing what Jones couldn't do. I still respect Jones for what he did in his time here. However, as a realist I don't believe Malky's tactics as of current as suitable for this level if we are to survive.

Chuckles, what's your honest opinion?

James, you're old account was Malky Is My God.. Have you changed your opinion again?

He still is Chuckles for taking us up and I will always respect him for that, doing what Jones couldn't do. I still respect Jones for what he did in his time here. However, as a realist I don't believe Malky's tactics as of current as suitable for this level if we are to survive.

Chuckles, what's your honest opinion?

Fair enough. I have my doubts, which is a shame as I really want Malky to do well. He's a dream off the field, the team are well organised, good signings, PR dream etc... Just question some of his decisions.

I think the next few games will be a pointer to how the rest of the season will shape up, tactics wise.

James, you're old account was Malky Is My God.. Have you changed your opinion again?

He still is Chuckles for taking us up and I will always respect him for that, doing what Jones couldn't do. I still respect Jones for what he did in his time here. However, as a realist I don't believe Malky's tactics as of current as suitable for this level if we are to survive.

Chuckles, what's your honest opinion?

Fair enough. I have my doubts, which is a shame as I really want Malky to do well. He's a dream off the field, the team are well organised, good signings, PR dream etc... Just question some of his decisions.

I think the next few games will be a pointer to how the rest of the season will shape up, tactics wise.

Both of you are spot on.

Personally I don't think Malky is good enough to get us to the next level and is no different to Chris Hughton imo but I think Malky's good enough to keep us up. It'd be harsh to unneccessary sack him if we do stay up this season but I don't think he's good enough to turn us into a consistent PL team. I'd like to go down the Southampton route to be honest. I really like Lambert and think he makes his teams play really good attractive attacking football. I do question Malky's questions sometime but he always answers why he done what he done etc. I think we will stay up by the skin of our teeth but the judgement of our first five games from my POV is average, I think we done well to get the points vs Man City and Everton, I think we maybe could have got three points at Hull and West Ham we should have played better and got more. Spurs was a nitty gritty performance against a quality team, to take them to their limits proved our resilliance. But please give Malky a chance

Cardiff City fans in the trenches with me - No thanks...

We lost 1-0 to a team who will be fighting for the top spot all season.


Lets see after 10 games.

JB on Saturday you were blaming the ref and now you are blaming Malkys tactics!!!

JB on Saturday you were blaming the ref and now you are blaming Malkys tactics!!!

Exactly what I said earlier. On Sunday he said we were "robbed" as Taylor was "clearly fouled" in the build up to their goal. not a mention of Malky's tactics.

A few games in and Malkys not good enough surely he deserves 10 maybe 15 games in the premiership before true judgement is passed?

Tottenham 3-0 Tromso
Aston Villa 0-4 Tottenham
Tottenham 2-0 Norwich
Tottenham3-0 Dinamo Tbilisi
(agg 8-0)
Totenham 1 Swansea 0

I'd say we did very well all things considered.
It's a new league and lots to be learnt.

Bloobirds!

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Our 5th game in the prem and you were embarrassed by our team, are you sure you are a Cardiff City fan, i'm by your post

I am a cardiff fan of 40 years. Seen it all

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Our 5th game in the prem and you were embarrassed by our team, are you sure you are a Cardiff City fan, i'm by your post

I am a cardiff fan of 40 years. Seen it all

47 years watching for me, and to say i have seen it all would be a lie, seen a lot but not all

A few games in and Malkys not good enough surely he deserves 10 maybe 15 games in the premiership before true judgement is passed?

at least.prob the whole season .if you go down (i dont think it will happen)then time in the champ to see if he is shaping up for a quick return too.perhaps spurs aint a game to be judging him on.next home is tho.i can see what he,s doing.maybe bit too much fear tactics.needs to find a way of playing a bit more offensive.reminds me of mcliesh at brum .against the top teams fair enough but the lower teams in the prem then he must take it to them to a degree at home.tbh some of the shape when defending is superb .as you found out on sunday it is a brutal league .

A few games in and Malkys not good enough surely he deserves 10 maybe 15 games in the premiership before true judgement is passed?

at least.prob the whole season .if you go down (i dont think it will happen)then time in the champ to see if he is shaping up for a quick return too.perhaps spurs aint a game to be judging him on.next home is tho.i can see what he,s doing.maybe bit too much fear tactics.needs to find a way of playing a bit more offensive.reminds me of mcliesh at brum .against the top teams fair enough but the lower teams in the prem then he must take it to them to a degree at home.tbh some of the shape when defending is superb .as you found out on sunday it is a brutal league .

A few games in and Malkys not good enough surely he deserves 10 maybe 15 games in the premiership before true judgement is passed?

at least.prob the whole season .if you go down (i dont think it will happen)then time in the champ to see if he is shaping up for a quick return too.perhaps spurs aint a game to be judging him on.next home is tho.i can see what he,s doing.maybe bit too much fear tactics.needs to find a way of playing a bit more offensive.reminds me of mcliesh at brum .against the top teams fair enough but the lower teams in the prem then he must take it to them to a degree at home.tbh some of the shape when defending is superb .as you found out on sunday it is a brutal league .

JB on Saturday you were blaming the ref and now you are blaming Malkys tactics!!!

Yes the referee made errors Adam but to have 29 shots against you is a disgrace in its own right. Of course a lot of them were long range (i.e. Gylfi and Townsend a couple) but the simple fact is that in the PL even if they are from range you will often get punished because of the quality.

If we allow the likes of Lampard, Rooney and so on such liberties they'll be smashing them in from range. We were very lucky to not be punished by a long range Gylfi strike which hit the bar.

Marshall may be a good goalkeeper in form but he is not a one man machine there to bail out Malky for lack of bollocks. Malky needs to buck up his ideas and start attacking more and stop the side defending so deep. Even vs Hull, Brady asserted dominance often and whilst I admit we were playing away and there are no easy games in the Premier League, I still think with the players we have, who of course need to gel a bit more, that we should still be giving teams like Hull a good go. We never really as the stats prove.

2 shots on target vs Hull and if it wasn't for a one off slick passing move and beautiful finish by Whittingham that would have been more points squandered. We are more than capable of taking the game to Hull yet they bossed us for large periods and the stats prove they had more chances than us.

I do as of current think Malky is out of his depth Adam and I stand by that comment and I put my hands up and admitted Polo was right and he was. He has said for a while that Malky's tactics will hinder us and he is right.

The excuse makers say 'we don't expect to beat Everton, its a good point, we'll beat Hull and that'll offset it'. Then we get to Hull and we only draw and the excuse makers then say 'its a good point away from home'. Suddenly we have 2 points from 6 and then we play the next game and we lose but its okay because we held them out for 90 minutes and were unlucky. That's 2 points from 9. Then the next game, what if we lose to Fulham but put in a brave display, is that fine, 2 points from 12 on offer? Last time I checked points not passion keep you in this league. If the league table was decided on passion we'd already have the league wrapped up but unfortunately it is not and Malky needs to realise that.

I just really hope Adam that Malky bucks up his ideas for his own sake and the clubs sake. I would love Malky to prove me wrong but his current deployment in terms of tactics are worrying. Even the pundits and journalists are reporting it as it is but our fans are not facing facts and are living on cloud 9 because of the Malky love in.

We invite pressure on ourselves all the time by sitting too deep and eventually we break. We almost did vs Everton with the ball fizzed in across goal and were very lucky. Man City even almost got an equaliser through Negredo. We are our own worst enemy sometimes and refuse to play and instead let them come at us with wave after wave of attack.

We're going to end up getting a spanking soon enough Brownie when our defenders and Marshall have an off day and can't be supermen saving us all the time and maybe then some of our fans will snap back into reality. People need to realise there are no teams in this league where you can expect 3 point so saying 'dont worry we'll pick up the points vs Palace or Villa' just doesn't wash.

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we have had a tough start to the season apart from Hull West Ham was never going to be easy as they only lost 3 at home all last season, Man city and Spurs are going to be up there fighting for the title, Everton are a good side and like always a top 8 finish will be on the cards. still undefeated too. Hull we could have done better however a point away from home in the premiership is always good regardless who we play,

Out of the 3 clubs which have gone up we have done the best business, i would rather have our squad than Hull and Palace. Fulham and Newcastle will show how far we have come,

Malky is doing a great job, so i hope every Cardiff City fan gets behind him and the team, no matter what happens.

WE WILL BE PREMIER LEAGUE COME NEXT SEASON

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Good question but your last line is wrong,it'll take a bit longer than that and people are too quick to forget where we were when Malky took over.I distinctly remember everyone on here saying that 12th would be good in his first year given the state of the club when he took over from DJ but he surprised us all by getting us into the playoffs.Only a certified idiot would judge any manager by 4 or 5 games.It takes a medium to long term view and to be fair Malky is one of the most pragmatic people ever to have the job.There are a few on here that qualify to be Sunderland supporters judging by their take on Malky.

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Good question but your last line is wrong,it'll take a bit longer than that and people are too quick to forget where we were when Malky took over.I distinctly remember everyone on here saying that 12th would be good in his first year given the state of the club when he took over from DJ but he surprised us all by getting us into the playoffs.Only a certified idiot would judge any manager by 4 or 5 games.It takes a medium to long term view and to be fair Malky is one of the most pragmatic people ever to have the job.There are a few on here that qualify to be Sunderland supporters judging by their take on Malky.

I am not questioning malky just posing a question, it seems he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't....

Just posing a question on what i have seen so far
Should we have invested our 23 million on say 10 or 11 players similar to hull or bought 3 players, Mendel caulker and cornelius to compliment our players who got us promoted but are not good enough for the prem.( cornelius has not yet kicked a ball in anger)
At 2.5 mil odemwinge looks so far a bargain.
We are not strong enough quick enough or skilfull enough and have no width.. I watched the spurs game in a pub full of spurs fans in tenerife and was at times embarrassed, you could hear he chuckles the way we gave the ball away
The next 2 games will tell.

Our 5th game in the prem and you were embarrassed by our team, are you sure you are a Cardiff City fan, i'm by your post

Really?? It's just his opinion. Why would you be embarrassed by that?

Its nothing to do with the players but everything to do with Malky's terrible defensive tactics and deployment. He is going out too often to draw games and try and snatch something but its always safety first. We should be commanding games at home sorry.

I cant see him lasting personally.

West Ham (L)
Man City (W)
Everton (D)
Hull (D)
Spurs (L)

We've conceded in 4/5 games and although we scored twice from set pieces against Man City they mostly controlled that game as well. Spurs did a better job against us and kept harassing us to keep regaining possession. It was like wave after wave of attack against Spurs.

Sorry but soon enough Tan will get frustrated and Malky will be gone unless he bucks up his ideas. Thats the harsh reality of this league and Malky wouldn't be the first or last to face it.

That's the problem when you have an owner who divides a club and knows nothing about football.