" WE NEED TO CREATE MORE "

I thought we were fortunate in a lot of respects to be still in the game as we went in to injury time, Spurs were that good today and despite having a goal disallowed (which I did not any reason why) and two good chances to grab a goal, if it had not been for an inspired David Marshall, the crossbar and some poor finishing Spurs could have put 5 on us today.

Why Ben Turner is allowed to keep knocking the long ball time and time again is baffling. Taylor was running away from his man and the ball on occasions today rather than go and attack it.

I felt for Fraizer Campbell, up front and doing a thankless task, when he is feeding off long ball from defence for much of his play then no wonder we create very little.

We need a target man with Campbell to play off or if we chose to play Odemwingie, Maynard.

Malky has got to find a way where we are not forced to sit back for large periods of the game and find a system that works and gives the strikers more opportunities.

That said losing in injury time is a bitter pill to swallow and perhaps apart from losing on penalties it feels like the worse feeling in the world.

In my little mind I am trying to remain positive and believe that Spurs team today will be up there challenging for the title or at least they have a squad that can compete for it.

I didn't expect much out of today's game to be honest but I really do think we must be looking to get at least 4 points from Fulham and Newcastle in our next two fixtures.

Medel was superb again today, he gives nothing away and breaks up so much of the opposition play.

No need for panic stations, it is a long season and there will be many more disappointments along the way but we have to start creating more chances.

turner jumped on the shoulder of the defender that's why I think the goal was disallowed, if we don't have more chances at goal and get them on target we wont pick up the 3 points in most games, odemwingie looked a breath of fresh air when he came on least he tried to get shots off, to many passes around the box and not enough attempts

Agree with that synopsis. We desperately need a more positive approach. We can't keep up this siege mentality all season.
Keep the faith!

Drop Gunnar, was f*cking dreadful

Have to agree with all you say Carl the better team won the game but a horrible way to lose. Think it was Gunnarsson that was penalised for the disallowed goal for pulling which only the ref seemed to see. Apparently the fourth official said it should have stood. But, that's not the real issue - the lack of chances and shots on goal is worrying. OK, so we need to be in the game as long as possible against the top sides, but we need to be more expansive in the games against our rivals in the lower half of the table.

turner jumped on the shoulder of the defender that's why I think the goal was disallowed, if we don't have more chances at goal and get them on target we wont pick up the 3 points in most games, odemwingie looked a breath of fresh air when he came on least he tried to get shots off, to many passes around the box and not enough attempts

The goal was disallowed for a foul by Gunarson on Lloris which in truth was the other way around! Goal should have stood but we were taught a lesson in football today.

Aslong as we beat the teams around us, taking points off the top teams can be a bonus.
Stay positive.

turner jumped on the shoulder of the defender that's why I think the goal was disallowed, if we don't have more chances at goal and get them on target we wont pick up the 3 points in most games, odemwingie looked a breath of fresh air when he came on least he tried to get shots off, to many passes around the box and not enough attempts

The goal was disallowed for a foul by Gunarson on Lloris which in truth was the other way around! Goal should have stood but we were taught a lesson in football today.

yeah my bad I just read the reason why on bbc, should of stood then

In football terms the difference between ourselves and Spurs is almost immeasureable and at this moment we simply cannot take on teams like them in an open game of football. If we had tried that today we would have been on the wrong end a real hammering.


What we saw today was another fantastic performance based on organisation, concentration and determination not to be beaten and we only lost out to TWO big decisions by Mr Clattenberg. Did Gunnarsonn have his hands on Llorris and did Taylor get an elbow in the back.


We were outplayed for long spells by a really good Spurs team today but at the end of the day the result hinged on just TWO decisions. Really small margins and can't wait for the next game because I'm loving watching the quality of football in this League. And that includes some of the stuff we have served up so far.

I think you're all mad. We are always gonna play a bit more defensively away anyway but we've played Man City, Everton & Spurs at home...ALL in the top 6. We very nearly took 5 from 9 against these 3. Ill cast my concerns when we play a team at home who aren't expected to smash us first.

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As much as I think gunnarsson does ok, I just don't see the need for him in there when we have medel and whis, we also have Kim buzzing around so I think malky just wants to play them 4 in the middle congesting things and hoping to nick something. I really think we need to have a bit more of a go after watching the Everton and today's game. No need to panic as it's all a learning curve but parking the bus and crowding the middle will have the outcome of today more often than not IMO

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

I thought we were fortunate in a lot of respects to be still in the game as we went in to injury time, Spurs were that good today and despite having a goal disallowed (which I did not any reason why) and two good chances to grab a goal, if it had not been for an inspired David Marshall, the crossbar and some poor finishing Spurs could have put 5 on us today.

Why Ben Turner is allowed to keep knocking the long ball time and time again is baffling. Taylor was running away from his man and the ball on occasions today rather than go and attack it.

I felt for Fraizer Campbell, up front and doing a thankless task, when he is feeding off long ball from defence for much of his play then no wonder we create very little.

We need a target man with Campbell to play off or if we chose to play Odemwingie, Maynard.

Malky has got to find a way where we are not forced to sit back for large periods of the game and find a system that works and gives the strikers more opportunities.

That said losing in injury time is a bitter pill to swallow and perhaps apart from losing on penalties it feels like the worse feeling in the world.

In my little mind I am trying to remain positive and believe that Spurs team today will be up there challenging for the title or at least they have a squad that can compete for it.

I didn't expect much out of today's game to be honest but I really do think we must be looking to get at least 4 points from Fulham and Newcastle in our next two fixtures.

Medel was superb again today, he gives nothing away and breaks up so much of the opposition play.

No need for panic stations, it is a long season and there will be many more disappointments along the way but we have to start creating more chances.

as well as not creating enough carl we give possesion away far to easy and marshall for all his heroics is probably the worst culprit.
at times today it was like a game of attack against defence which we used to play when we were kids. campbell needs more support or we are going to struggle to score and pick up points. I think malky now has to adopt a far more attacking policy for the next two games because i believe both games are winnable and will shape the rest of the season in my opinion.

In football terms the difference between ourselves and Spurs is almost immeasureable and at this moment we simply cannot take on teams like them in an open game of football. If we had tried that today we would have been on the wrong end a real hammering.


What we saw today was another fantastic performance based on organisation, concentration and determination not to be beaten and we only lost out to TWO big decisions by Mr Clattenberg. Did Gunnarsonn have his hands on Llorris and did Taylor get an elbow in the back.


We were outplayed for long spells by a really good Spurs team today but at the end of the day the result hinged on just TWO decisions. Really small margins and can't wait for the next game because I'm loving watching the quality of football in this League. And that includes some of the stuff we have served up so far.

Have to agree that the football on show is a pleasure to watch even thou we appear to be under the cosh for much of the time . Gutted for everyone who went to the game today

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Spurs should been out of sight by HT to be fair.

Best side weve faced so far.

Worringly Malky feels we were hard done by.

I thought we were fortunate in a lot of respects to be still in the game as we went in to injury time, Spurs were that good today and despite having a goal disallowed (which I did not any reason why) and two good chances to grab a goal, if it had not been for an inspired David Marshall, the crossbar and some poor finishing Spurs could have put 5 on us today.

Why Ben Turner is allowed to keep knocking the long ball time and time again is baffling. Taylor was running away from his man and the ball on occasions today rather than go and attack it.

I felt for Fraizer Campbell, up front and doing a thankless task, when he is feeding off long ball from defence for much of his play then no wonder we create very little.

We need a target man with Campbell to play off or if we chose to play Odemwingie, Maynard.

Malky has got to find a way where we are not forced to sit back for large periods of the game and find a system that works and gives the strikers more opportunities.

That said losing in injury time is a bitter pill to swallow and perhaps apart from losing on penalties it feels like the worse feeling in the world.

In my little mind I am trying to remain positive and believe that Spurs team today will be up there challenging for the title or at least they have a squad that can compete for it.

I didn't expect much out of today's game to be honest but I really do think we must be looking to get at least 4 points from Fulham and Newcastle in our next two fixtures.

Medel was superb again today, he gives nothing away and breaks up so much of the opposition play.

No need for panic stations, it is a long season and there will be many more disappointments along the way but we have to start creating more chances.

as well as not creating enough carl we give possesion away far to easy and marshall for all his heroics is probably the worst culprit.
at times today it was like a game of attack against defence which we used to play when we were kids. campbell needs more support or we are going to struggle to score and pick up points. I think malky now has to adopt a far more attacking policy for the next two games because i believe both games are winnable and will shape the rest of the season in my opinion.

Steve I can't agree more.

We must be taking points, minimum of 4, from Fulham and Newcastle or the panic may set in.

Malky has to find a system to help our strikers.

Spurs were class, and will be challenging for honours this season. Absolutely gutted to lose by such a late goal, but overall they were well worth their win.

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Well maybe 1 or 2 are

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Well maybe 1 or 2 are

Dont knock yourself part of what you say is right.

Britton was shit at Sheff U, hes encouraged to play the right way at Jacks and looks a better player. Hes no better than Whitts though.

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Look I hope the Swans crash and burn and the sooner the better but right now they are in thier 3rd season in the PL and have developed thier squad at every opportunity. In PL experience alone the Swansea squad is ahead of ours, quality is debateable, but it would have to be one hell of an arguement to win your assertion that thier players are no better than ours.

Do we have a Michu or a Bony not to mention that throughout thier team they have players who are comfortable with the ball.

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Look I hope the Swans crash and burn and the sooner the better but right now they are in thier 3rd season in the PL and have developed thier squad at every opportunity. In PL experience alone the Swansea squad is ahead of ours, quality is debateable, but it would have to be one hell of an arguement to win your assertion that thier players are no better than ours.

Do we have a Michu or a Bony not to mention that throughout thier team they have players who are comfortable with the ball.

We need to forget the Jacks and just concentrate on finishing 17th.

They have far superior manager and players.

Harsh but true.

Fraizer Campbell not good enough to play up top on his own imo

At the end of the day we are in a mini league which is the bottom half of the prem. We need to be beating teams in the bottom half at home and picking points up off them away. To be fair we,v played 3 of the teams who will finish in the top 6 at home so far

We need to forget the Jacks and just concentrate on finishing 17th.

They have far superior manager and players.

Harsh but true.[/quote]


Well said. IMO they did us a favour today.

We need to create more? Are we going to outplay a Spurs side who have spent £108 million on new players this summer? Of course we aren't! Attacking a team as good as Spurs to give them space in our final third would be suicide! We used the same tactics today as we used to beat Man City at home. Lloris should have been sent off, there didn't seem much wrong with our goal and it was a foul on Taylor leading up to their goal. I think Malky knows what he's doing. Aside from Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, we won't play another team with Spurs' quality at home this season. I think we will be alright.

How anyone can moan at Turner today is baffling. Marshall kept passing it to Turner and the only option he had the majority of the time was to knock it down the channel for Campbell. People don't understand that when there are no options, a channel ball is a good ball as more often than not, their full back has to deal with it, usually resulting in us winning back possession or winning a throw deep into their half as the full back has to clear it into touch.

We need to create more? Are we going to outplay a Spurs side who have spent £108 million on new players this summer? Of course we aren't! Attacking a team as good as Spurs to give them space in our final third would be suicide! We used the same tactics today as we used to beat Man City at home. Lloris should have been sent off, there didn't seem much wrong with our goal and it was a foul on Taylor leading up to their goal. I think Malky knows what he's doing. Aside from Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, we won't play another team with Spurs' quality at home this season. I think we will be alright.

How anyone can moan at Turner today is baffling. Marshall kept passing it to Turner and the only option he had the majority of the time was to knock it down the channel for Campbell. People don't understand that when there are no options, a channel ball is a good ball as more often than not, their full back has to deal with it, usually resulting in us winning back possession or winning a throw deep into their half as the full back has to clear it into touch.

Fair play you havent got a clue

We need to forget the Jacks and just concentrate on finishing 17th.

They have far superior manager and players.

Harsh but true.

Well said. IMO they did us a favour today.[/quote]
Yep. Defo.

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Look I hope the Swans crash and burn and the sooner the better but right now they are in thier 3rd season in the PL and have developed thier squad at every opportunity. In PL experience alone the Swansea squad is ahead of ours, quality is debateable, but it would have to be one hell of an arguement to win your assertion that thier players are no better than ours.

Do we have a Michu or a Bony not to mention that throughout thier team they have players who are comfortable with the ball.

yes swans had 51% but what part field was it in? if team as 39% and win who is happier? possession is not a reflection on game just a stat! 10 shots on target no goals 1 shot on target scores who is happier? and we all know that stats are manipulated to suite the person using them! yes swans far better in possession but then they have had more practice