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IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:31 am

And before the PC brigade play the disabled card, I doubt there is anyone more aware of disabled issuea than me, from social and my work back ground.

Many years back on a visit to the old Hull ground I turn up at the away turnstiles with my old mucka Beefy in his wheelchair and asked the old gent on the gate where the wheelchair section was, he pointed to a gate and said just go up there, and by the way, it's a fiver for you, and nowt for spastic, well normally anything like this or seen by me as an insult to Beefy was like a red rag to a bull, and in most case Beefy would take it all in his stride and try and calm me down.

But there was something about the "innocent way this old chap had said it, that made me realise it was said in ignorance rather than as an insult, this time it was Beefy who was tamping and I was laughing my head off.

We went up to the gate we'd been shown gave my fiver over to another old chap, who smiled and then said and pointed, just head over to that corner with other spastics, well that pushed me over the edge and i was creased, by the time we got to the disabled section, Beefy wanted to kill someone, but as we got there another old chap approached and I waited for the beefy backlash, and the old chap said nicely "hope you had a nice journey up, if there's anything you need just ask me" classic, me and Beefy (after he cooled down) spent the whole match laughing about the situation.

Another story from the wheelchair era, happened in the Vetch, they used to put us pitch side in front of the Grandstand, and in those days most away games would be me and Beefy and Martin from llantwit in his chair with his mate.

Well it was a horrible day pissing down but we scored a great goal, we was cheering like lunatics and the supervisor came in my face and said quite aggressively "no cheering" well I did flip a little and grabbed his scruff and a copper came along and cooled it down, but while this was going on Martin had literally jumped with joy out of his chair and was laying face down in a puddle still cheering but almost drowning at the same time, picked him up and the Cardiff wheelchair massive had a group hug, just to piss the supervisor off even more.

Miss those days, perhaps some of the old regulars from the disabled section should do a book with memories of their travels.

Granville could do one on his own, :lol: :lol: Mansfield and Bristol Rovers to name just a couple. ;)

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:34 am

I can not believe somebody refered to your mate as a spastic, nobody is that ignorant, must've been said with hatred for the Welsh.

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:47 am

Real_Blue_Really wrote:I can not believe somebody refered to your mate as a spastic, nobody is that ignorant, must've been said with hatred for the Welsh.



Couldn't be more wrong, I have grown up and worked with disabled people all my life, they really aren't that fragile as some people think, in fact they in most cases have a sicker and more switched on sense of humor than most.
Years ago, and this was sometime past, every disabled person was refereed to as a spastic, another word you hear rarely now is mongol, always referred to as Down syndrome now

Now as bad as it sounds this was common place and even the charity involved with Cerebral Palsy was called the spastics society, mad to think, i genuinely think it was an innocent ignorance in this case, remember mind we are talking about Hull, they are a bit slow to catch on and are still wearing flares now.

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:55 am

We went to Crewe one year, must have been mid nineties, and the police had typically over reacted and shut every pub in the County, not just Crewe to Cardiff fans.

I remember talking to Steve Borley and they had stopped on route all suited and booted in a big posh car, and they wouldn't even let them in, kid you not.

Well anyway, I think we'd gone up in my Motor home, which for a good few years was our mode of transport, luxury tours with our own fridge and toilet, record numbers seventeen of us crammed in to Cambridge one game.

Anyway for Crewe there was around fourteen of us including beefy and his chair, well we knew the pub ban was on so we got all the boys to hide around the corner and me and Beefy went to the door with two bouncers on it and played the old disabled card, you could see them pondering and thinking of the possible disabled discrimination case and said wqe could go in, well as soon as I was over the doorstep I said one of his mates would bring his cushion behind us an dlow and behold the other dozen turned up carrying one cushion.

fair play to the bouncers they new they'd been scammed and just gave a knowing smile, we had a great welcome in the pub and a great laugh, and it tasted even sweeter knowing we were the only blue birds drinking from glasses that day. :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:00 pm

:lol: I can't believe who had two separate people say it in one day.

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:06 pm

The shit disabled people have had to put up with over the years is unbelievable.
Thankfully it has changed since those days years ago but they've had to fight all the way and are still fighting for certain things.

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:09 pm

Gwyn,I remember the Granville incident :lol: Rovers away it was & they were shouting stuff about Abervan ,didn't he make the star paper or something like that ? :malky:

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:44 pm

Xcasual wrote:Gwyn,I remember the Granville incident :lol: Rovers away it was & they were shouting stuff about Abervan ,didn't he make the star paper or something like that ? :malky:


Front page of the Daily Star. :lol:

Re: IT'S NOWT FOR SPASTIC

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:01 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Xcasual wrote:Gwyn,I remember the Granville incident :lol: Rovers away it was & they were shouting stuff about Abervan ,didn't he make the star paper or something like that ? :malky:


Front page of the Daily Star. :lol:


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