Quite Possibly the Greatest..

Of all time fighters..... A name has now been cemented high up on that list.


Here's my amended top fighters..

1,Joe Luis.
2,Muhammad Ali
3,Floyd Mayweather
4,Ray Robinson
5,Ray Leonard
6,Julio Cesar Chavez
7,Jack Dempsey
8,Henry Armstrong
9,Willie Pep
10,Rocky Marciano

11,Jack Johnson
12,Larry Holmes
13,Manny Pacquiao
14, Benny Leonard
15,Ezzard Charles
16,Gene Tunney
17,Roberto Duran
18,Marvin Haggler
19,Lennox Lewis
20, Ted kid Lewis.

Honourable mentions to

Oscar De la Hoya,Mike Tyson,Evander Holyfield,Joe Walcott,Carlos Monzon,Marco Antonio Barerer and Thomas Hearns to name but a few.

Where's my fekin name

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

He barely gets hit, is the best defensive fighter of all time, his punching precision is astonishing, his dedication is unreal, he made the biggest emerging talent look lost and his mental game is easily the greatest.

He's the greatest ever. Everyone says 'if this boxer was in the ring with Floyd he'd get beat' but they say that every time. Canelo was supposed to beat him. De La Hoya was supposed to beat him. They all try. They all fail.

There will always be haters and he has created them himself because of great PR and people tune in to see the greatest fall. Unfortunately for them he keeps taking their money and he keeps taking the victory with it. People also dislike Mayweather's defensive style. So many people who claim to know everything about boxing just want to see a brawl and not the true skill of pugilism. Anyone who appreciates boxing in its finest form will appreciate that Mayweather is the greatest or at least in the top 3, depending on your opinions with Sugar Ray etc.

There's not a style that can beat him because he mentally changes his game as fights goes on and he adapts. Brawlers have tried and failed. Fighters who punch at angles like Marquez couldn't unlock him. People who try to execute the jab on him all night have failed as he counters and uses the overhand right.

Mayweather is 20-0 vs current or former title holders.

Astonishing.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

He barely gets hit, is the best defensive fighter of all time, his punching precision is astonishing, his dedication is unreal, he made the biggest emerging talent look lost and his mental game is easily the greatest.

He's the greatest ever. Everyone says 'if this boxer was in the ring with Floyd he'd get beat' but they say that every time. Canelo was supposed to beat him. De La Hoya was supposed to beat him. They all try. They all fail.

There will always be haters and he has created them himself because of great PR and people tune in to see the greatest fall. Unfortunately for them he keeps taking their money and he keeps taking the victory with it. People also dislike Mayweather's defensive style. So many people who claim to know everything about boxing just want to see a brawl and not the true skill of pugilism. Anyone who appreciates boxing in its finest form will appreciate that Mayweather is the greatest or at least in the top 3, depending on your opinions with Sugar Ray etc.

There's not a style that can beat him because he mentally changes his game as fights goes on and he adapts. Brawlers have tried and failed. Fighters who punch at angles like Marquez couldn't unlock him. People who try to execute the jab on him all night have failed as he counters and uses the overhand right.

Mayweather is 20-0 vs current or former title holders.

Astonishing.

people hate mayweather because of his style, most fans love to see a tear up but imo boxing is all about hit and don't get hit, give me mayweather, pernell sweet pea whittiker anyday

people hate mayweather because of his style, most fans love to see a tear up but imo boxing is all about hit and don't get hit, give me mayweather, pernell sweet pea whittiker anyday

Agreed. Pugilism in its finest form that is Chris. I know you know your boxing as well.

I want to see Mayweather vs Golovkin next as that'd be an amazing fight and Mayweather could possibly get the KO in that one.

For me Roberto Duran would be well in the top ten, along with Willie Pep, but along with everything else we all have our own preferences and opinions

For me Roberto Duran would be well in the top ten, along with Willie Pep, but along with everything else we all have our own preferences and opinions

I know WP is in your top ten but I'd have him higher

I would have to add Marvin Hagler

Who is the only fighter to get knocked down in every fight he had and won everyone

I would have to add Marvin Hagler

He'd be in my top 10 too mate. Marvellous Marvin Hagler.

I would have to add Marvin Hagler

He'd be in my top 10 too mate. Marvellous Marvin Hagler.

Always remember when he mudered Minter in London

There have been many good boxers/fighters, I always loved Roberto Duran, irrespective of who was the best, who did you like to watch? interested!

There have been many good boxers/fighters, I always loved Roberto Duran, irrespective of who was the best, who did you like to watch? interested!

Used to love watching Sugar Ray leonard

There have been many good boxers/fighters, I always loved Roberto Duran, irrespective of who was the best, who did you like to watch? interested!

Used to love watching Sugar Ray leonard

great boxer fella

Some of his fights with Hagler and Hearns have gone down in history just amazing

Some of his fights with Hagler and Hearns have gone down in history just amazing

Agreed

There have been many good boxers/fighters, I always loved Roberto Duran, irrespective of who was the best, who did you like to watch? interested!

Used to love watching Sugar Ray leonard

Good shout

Cool list, but no Iron Mike at the top?

Also Tunney and Dempsey are highly over rated in my opinion. They both drew the colour line and refused to fight the best black fighters of the day like Larry Gains and George Godfrey, who were much better fighters. Gains beat all that was put in front of him and beat the best - Schmeling (future champ), Godfrey, Carnera (future undeserving champ). Dempsey also used to use him as a sparring partner and it seems there was a gulf in athletic ability. Godfrey just scared the **** out of everybody. I wouldn't put Dempsey or Tunney in that list at all. They always pop up in these lists, but if you read up on that era you will see that they were just steered through fights they were certain to win. I will give Dempsey the nod in that he was a pioneer of a modern marauding fighting style though.

Sam Langford was also another great black fighter of Jack Johnson's day.

Jack Johnson should be much much higher in that list. He was simply untouchable and defended the title for years at a time when there were no limits to the amount of rounds in a fight and when he was scarred of being shot at if he won! You should check out an amazing documentary on him called - "The Unforgivable Blackness". My favorite documentary ever!

I have the DVD and yes it is an amazing watch

Cool list, but no Iron Mike at the top?

Also Tunney and Dempsey are highly over rated in my opinion. They both drew the colour line and refused to fight the best black fighters of the day like Larry Gains and George Godfrey, who were much better fighters. Gains beat all that was put in front of him and beat the best - Schmeling (future champ), Godfrey, Carnera (future undeserving champ). Dempsey also used to use him as a sparring partner and it seems there was a gulf in athletic ability. Godfrey just scared the **** out of everybody. I wouldn't put Dempsey or Tunney in that list at all. They always pop up in these lists, but if you read up on that era you will see that they were just steered through fights they were certain to win. I will give Dempsey the nod in that he was a pioneer of a modern marauding fighting style though.

Sam Langford was also another great black fighter of Jack Johnson's day.

Jack Johnson should be much much higher in that list. He was simply untouchable and defended the title for years at a time when there were no limits to the amount of rounds in a fight and when he was scarred of being shot at if he won! You should check out an amazing documentary on him called - "The Unforgivable Blackness". My favorite documentary ever!

TYSON WAS A MYTH,NOTHING MORE.... GOT FOUND OUT AND COULDN'T BEAT HIS DEMONS.
Top 50,but not near top 20.

Just my opinion.

No Joe in top 20?

Cool list, but no Iron Mike at the top?

Also Tunney and Dempsey are highly over rated in my opinion. They both drew the colour line and refused to fight the best black fighters of the day like Larry Gains and George Godfrey, who were much better fighters. Gains beat all that was put in front of him and beat the best - Schmeling (future champ), Godfrey, Carnera (future undeserving champ). Dempsey also used to use him as a sparring partner and it seems there was a gulf in athletic ability. Godfrey just scared the **** out of everybody. I wouldn't put Dempsey or Tunney in that list at all. They always pop up in these lists, but if you read up on that era you will see that they were just steered through fights they were certain to win. I will give Dempsey the nod in that he was a pioneer of a modern marauding fighting style though.

Sam Langford was also another great black fighter of Jack Johnson's day.

Jack Johnson should be much much higher in that list. He was simply untouchable and defended the title for years at a time when there were no limits to the amount of rounds in a fight and when he was scarred of being shot at if he won! You should check out an amazing documentary on him called - "The Unforgivable Blackness". My favorite documentary ever!

TYSON WAS A MYTH,NOTHING MORE.... GOT FOUND OUT AND COULDN'T BEAT HIS DEMONS.
Top 50,but not near top 20.

Just my opinion.

Of course. Stuff like this can only be about opinions.

Which Tyson are you talking about? I'm talking about the 20 year old. The guy who came later was not even a shadow.

But I have never seen a fighter just flat out demand the title so aggresively as Tyson did. His flame was very short lived, but for a couple of years no one could have touched him. That is the Tyson I'm talking about.

I have put Louis at top spot simply because his record of title defended still stands.
Ali, and him are the two greatest and both fantastic fighters at heavyweight.
Mayweather is the complete professional,single handily the greatest fighter I have had the privalidge to lay my eyes upon.

No Joe in top 20?

No,I love Joe but sadly his management team or should I say Frank Warren seriously damaged his fighters credentials by not letting him off the leash sooner.

It's a common trait for Warren.

Sadly Otto its also the Tyson I am talking about...

He is without a doubt the single most intimidating fighter in living memory.
The Hype that has surrounded him from day one has never been matched.
He could make a comeback now and still probably sell out ...

When Cus D'amato took him in he honed all that was good and right about Mike,but even
That wasn't enough. There was always the monster in the shadows.
Atlas and Rooney knew it was only a matter of time and when the Passing of the mentor took place the downward spiral began.


He was enjoyable but inevitably a severely limited fighter as soon as he encountered a fighter who wasn't afraid.

Top 50.

Sadly Otto its also the Tyson I am talking about...

He is without a doubt the single most intimidating fighter in living memory.
The Hype that has surrounded him from day one has never been matched.
He could make a comeback now and still probably sell out ...

When Cus D'amato took him in he honed all that was good and right about Mike,but even
That wasn't enough. There was always the monster in the shadows.
Atlas and Rooney knew it was only a matter of time and when the Passing of the mentor took place the downward spiral began.
He was enjoyable but inevitably a severely limited fighter as soon as he encountered a fighter who wasn't afraid.

Top 50.

Agree with this. My feeling is Tyson was a very unorthodox fighter which was his asset for a short period of time, which I believe any fighter would have struggled against. His stance was odd, shoulders flat and straight forward. Meaning he didn't protect himself at all. That's why, for me, he was so awesome. No fighter was trained to combat this style where a right hand lead was thrown as much as is awesome left 'jab'. Coupled with his raw speed and aggression, he left no room for a tactical fight. Tyson was never a smart boxer at all, he was all about attack. He was a complete do or die Kamakazi fighter, who I think made for an impossible adversary.

Just my opinion. Though I suspect you and others would know more than me about modern fighters anyway. The only thing I know a lot about is pre Joe Lewis.

I re-watched 'When we were Kings' the other night about the rumble in the jungle. Another fantastic doc. George Forman was another beast. But again he is hard to judge as it is hard to tell how much is myth making in regard to Ali. But you can't deny the mental toughness to come back and what a powerful fighter he was in the '70's.

No Joe in top 20?

Massively overrated and protected. Unfortunately a common thing in British boxing recently. They purposely do it so they can avoid the Khan situation. Look at all the ones stepping up now and being found out - Khan found out, Burns found out, Rees found out, etc.

By keeping them in the UK they can draw out their career and maximise profits. Only when its basically forced on them by the media and fans will they then go for a real target of true calibre.

When Asked,Joe produced. Sadly for him his manager never asked much of him.

When Asked,Joe produced. Sadly for him his manager never asked much of him.

100% bang on the money.

Hagler should easily be in the top 10.