NGP PARKING NOTICE

Just received a parking notice of £60 fine for parking near COSTCO on match day, do anyone know if this company are legally entitled to charge this or can I ignore it? I read Martin Lewis article of a few months ago and he said that this company cannot charged the fee. Any help would be appreciated as it will be an expensive season if I get charged for every game.

as long as its not from the police or the council, bin it.

Fella, just ignore it, i.e. DO NOT ENTER ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COMPANY

We've been trough this several times in recent years but just to re-iterate the simple fact is the law simply allows for companies to 'claim' compensation for ANY MONIES LOST caused by your overstaying any given time limit for parking in that area. Given that the first 3 hours is FREE then they would be claiming, erm, nothing other than expenses for taking you to Court and that would be crazy. Case Law provides examples by which any Judge would be guided

The fact that companies can no longer 'clamp' in private car parks (remember public car parks are a completely different matter with regard to fines and clamps) means that theoretically there is little they can do If you choose to park there every game. However, I am aware of one incident (in London) where a persistent parker under similar circmstances WAS taken to Court and fined quite heavily because the company had documentary, video and photographic evidence to support their claim

Hope that helps

I believe the law is... As long as they have the correct signage and it is located where it is visible, there is nothing illegal about the companies subcontracting parking attendants to monitor parking.

As said above ignore the ticket completely, whatever you do don't get into correspondence with them and definitely do-not telephone them up.

The Citizen's Advice Website even lists 'ignore it' as a possible option and that is hugely unusual for them http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/con ... you_do.htm and they explain that in theory the parking firm could take you to court, in practise it is too expensive for them to do so and they don't.

I believe the law is... As long as they have the correct signage and it is located where it is visible, there is nothing illegal about the companies subcontracting parking attendants to monitor parking.

You are probably right, but I think the point here is enforcement.

It is much easier and cheaper for them to send out threatening letters with photographic evidence that will frighten drivers into paying up.

Remember if they went to court they would have to pay solicitors and court fees up front and hope to recover that if they win. They have no idea of the status of the person they have sent the ticket to and it could be that they go right through the court process only to find that person is on JSA and has no ability to pay hundreds or even thousands of pounds in court costs.

That is why anyone who gets one of these tickets should never get into correspondence with these people.

As said above ignore the ticket completely, whatever you do don't get into correspondence with them and definitely do-not telephone them up.

The Citizen's Advice Website even lists 'ignore it' as a possible option and that is hugely unusual for them http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/con ... you_do.htm and they explain that in theory the parking firm could take you to court, in practise it is too expensive for them to do so and they don't.

I have done this may times before, I once received a ticket when I was shopping in tesco and I never replied and never heard anything even though I was on solid ground as I still had my shopping receipt, other times they do chase and raise the fine... So bit of a gamble really..

Thanks for the replies and I shall just ignore the notice!

As said above ignore the ticket completely, whatever you do don't get into correspondence with them and definitely do-not telephone them up.

The Citizen's Advice Website even lists 'ignore it' as a possible option and that is hugely unusual for them http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/con ... you_do.htm and they explain that in theory the parking firm could take you to court, in practise it is too expensive for them to do so and they don't.

I have done this may times before, I once received a ticket when I was shopping in tesco and I never replied and never heard anything even though I was on solid ground as I still had my shopping receipt, other times they do chase and raise the fine... So bit of a gamble really..

Yea what they do is they give you 14 days (I think) to pay £40 and if you don't they raise it to £80. During the 14 days you have the opportunity to 'challenge' the ticket but they usually give a list of excuses which they say they won't accept (The Disabled Blue Badge is one of them) to discourage you from doing so.

It's all bluff and I'm actually doing a mini project on this at the moment as some of the BPA Parking Companies are delaying sending out the original notice until 2 months after the incident. They then claim that 'you have not replied' and now the higher amount of £80+ is due and of course you can't challenge it as the appeal window has passed and that saves them the time and expense of dealing with appeals.

They are thoroughly obnoxious people and the sooner they are put out of business the better.

Let us know how you get on as I'm on the understanding that they are giving these out like whippys ice creams since the start of this season.

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

Fella, just ignore it, i.e. DO NOT ENTER ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COMPANY

We've been trough this several times in recent years but just to re-iterate the simple fact is the law simply allows for companies to 'claim' compensation for ANY MONIES LOST caused by your overstaying any given time limit for parking in that area. Given that the first 3 hours is FREE then they would be claiming, erm, nothing other than expenses for taking you to Court and that would be crazy. Case Law provides examples by which any Judge would be guided

The fact that companies can no longer 'clamp' in private car parks (remember public car parks are a completely different matter with regard to fines and clamps) means that theoretically there is little they can do If you choose to park there every game. However, I am aware of one incident (in London) where a persistent parker under similar circmstances WAS taken to Court and fined quite heavily because the company had documentary, video and photographic evidence to support their claim

Hope that helps

Sorry Sven that slightly contradicts itself, as u say there's nothin they can do yet then you say someone kept Parkin in a private car park and he got fined heavily?

I know that car park very well and the people who run it, the fines are not legally enforceable you are 100% correct however it is private parking for shoppers of the retail park only, hence why they fine as you are taking up valuable parking space of customers who will shop and spend on the park, therefore when u refer to this man who got fined heavily by court I suppose this could fall under similar ground as anyone consistently parking their is potentially costing the retail park money, personally I would agree with you ignore the ticket as its nt enforceable all the owner will do is sell it off to a debt collection company for less than half what they ask you to pay for parking there, also ignore any debt collection letters relating to the ticket (which u are likely to get eventually) as any telephone call etc will result in you acknowledging the debt hope that helps

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

The lads in that car park get paid £2 more an hour for doing what they call ticket days! Basically any football matchday

I have had at least 3/4 NGP letters from Talbot Green parking and never paid up. Ignored the first, the 2nd I wrote to them as it was actually outside my mates company and he had no idea about it and subsequently never heard back. And 3rd that I can remember was for an occasion in parking there for a said amount time when I was actually playing an away game in Nelson. Got fed up and sent them a big f**k ff email outlining all the previous letters and never heard a peep.

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

The lads in that car park get paid £2 more an hour for doing what they call ticket days! Basically any football matchday

good for them

not seeing your point though

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

The lads in that car park get paid £2 more an hour for doing what they call ticket days! Basically any football matchday

good for them

not seeing your point though

Just trying to back up your point fella that he want a jobsworth just doing whatje was paid extra to do

As others have said- ignore it and do not contact them in any way.

You will probably get follow up letters, supposedly from their collection service, the court, their legal department, their solicitors, someone else's solicitors - but all on similar headed notepaper with the same address.

They threaten to put the fine up, then they put the fine up saying the court found you guilty, then they say the fine has been reduced !

Just stay strong and ignore them all, and eventually they will cease to arrive.

Just thought I would share my experience from last year which may help some people.
I was with a friend who parked in the retail park on a match day. When he arrived back at his car, he had the dreaded notice posted on the windscreen giving him 14 days or they would raise the fine etc. He simply went around the carpark (even though it was chucking it down with rain) and collected several receipts out of trolleys and on the floor, some from around Costco and some around Asdas. Once he dried them all off, he noticed that at least 3 of them were receipts for cash sales that covered the time he was booked.
He telephoned the company to state that he was shopping and had the receipts and eventually the company provided him with an e mail address to write to and he simply scanned one of the receipts as proof he was shopping and sent it off.

The sneaky sods did not have the decency to inform him that they had dropped the case but once he checked on their website with the ticket number it had been anulled. A week earlier the the same website indicated that the ticket was in force. He has not heard anything since.

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

The lads in that car park get paid £2 more an hour for doing what they call ticket days! Basically any football matchday

good for them

not seeing your point though

Just trying to back up your point fella that he want a jobsworth just doing whatje was paid extra to do

fair enough thanks. I apologise wasnt sure if your comment was aimed at me or not

Fella, just ignore it, i.e. DO NOT ENTER ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COMPANY

We've been trough this several times in recent years but just to re-iterate the simple fact is the law simply allows for companies to 'claim' compensation for ANY MONIES LOST caused by your overstaying any given time limit for parking in that area. Given that the first 3 hours is FREE then they would be claiming, erm, nothing other than expenses for taking you to Court and that would be crazy. Case Law provides examples by which any Judge would be guided

The fact that companies can no longer 'clamp' in private car parks (remember public car parks are a completely different matter with regard to fines and clamps) means that theoretically there is little they can do If you choose to park there every game. However, I am aware of one incident (in London) where a persistent parker under similar circmstances WAS taken to Court and fined quite heavily because the company had documentary, video and photographic evidence to support their claim

Hope that helps

Sorry Sven that slightly contradicts itself, as u say there's nothin they can do yet then you say someone kept Parkin in a private car park and he got fined heavily?

I know that car park very well and the people who run it, the fines are not legally enforceable you are 100% correct however it is private parking for shoppers of the retail park only, hence why they fine as you are taking up valuable parking space of customers who will shop and spend on the park, therefore when u refer to this man who got fined heavily by court I suppose this could fall under similar ground as anyone consistently parking their is potentially costing the retail park money, personally I would agree with you ignore the ticket as its nt enforceable all the owner will do is sell it off to a debt collection company for less than half what they ask you to pay for parking there, also ignore any debt collection letters relating to the ticket (which u are likely to get eventually) as any telephone call etc will result in you acknowledging the debt hope that helps

Thanks for that and your comments (correctly) reflect my own

Nothing contradictory there mind, as there was a LOT more to it and the Judge agreed that the company had (in the longer term) incurred 'additional' expenses for the persistent ignoring of company policies (by which we are all technically bound) when entering their property

Me wife has had a ticket from the everton game. She parked the car at 16:00 we met her after the game done a little shopping and we left at 18:00. I thought it was 3 hours anyway.

Haven't done anything yet.... Just leave it or phone them. She has shopping receipts

Me wife has had a ticket from the everton game. She parked the car at 16:00 we met her after the game done a little shopping and we left at 18:00. I thought it was 3 hours anyway.

Haven't done anything yet.... Just leave it or phone them. She has shopping receipts

Refer to earlier posts, mate. Just ignore it even if more letters come through

3 hours is the usual time for such premises but worth noting that most Motorways Services have a 2 hour limit

Just to add my penny's worth, and to echo others, just ignore.

I've lost count of the amount of times a jobsworth at ASDA has put a ticket on my car. As long as it isn't from an offical source, i.e. council or police, just bin it. They just send you letters for a few months, and as long as you don't enter into any correspondence with them, they will stop sending you letters.

I even put them back in the post box with return to sender on them. They'll get the hint.

why is he a jobsworth?

thats his job if he doesnt do his job he loses his job, plus he probably gets paid for every ticket he puts on a car so its in his interest. He doesnt have to worry about chasing it up he gets paid anyway.

Fair enough, you make a valid point. But you have to be a jobsworth on some level, to enjoy doing that job. Otherwise you'd be stacking shelves full time inside the store, instead of a Saturday job putting tickets on cars outside it.

But personally, I'd rather scrape shit from a dogs arse with a wet playing card, than do that job.

Had the same as the original poster - thanks for all the tips on here remember posters last year saying ignore them so will do normally make sure I go into Costco and buy something so I have a receipt, but don't think I did at that game. Doh Better stay away for a month, then start parking there again Will keep you updated on how ignoring them goes!!

We're Cardiff City we park where we want!!!

Here is my take on it. Essentially this is a Civil matter and with an alleged debt of £80 it would be processed in the Small Claims Court. The issue fee, I believe, is £95. Both sides would have to fill an Allocation Questionnaire which costs £220 to the Claimant and free for the Defendant.Then there is also a hearing fee of around £300 to be pause by the Claimant.

In the Small Claims Track both sides bear their own costs - unless ordered by Court

It's just not worth them running this to a hearing to recover £80

Here is my take on it. Essentially this is a Civil matter and with an alleged debt of £80 it would be processed in the Small Claims Court. The issue fee, I believe, is £95. Both sides would have to fill an Allocation Questionnaire which costs £220 to the Claimant and free for the Defendant.Then there is also a hearing fee of around £300 to be pause by the Claimant.

In the Small Claims Track both sides bear their own costs - unless ordered by Court

It's just not worth them running this to a hearing to recover £80

What's the debt level where you can claim costs?

The Small Claims Track was until recently £5000 (for non injury cases)

Ignore the ticket, that's what I did 2 seasons ago with no comebacks.

You will receive I think 3 letters the first two from the parking company, the first a demand, the second threatening to take you to court and it will effect your credit rating blah blah blah. The third will be from another company saying that they have taken over the debt (debt for what, you haven't bought anything) and will take legal action. just ignore them all
For more info and reassurance post or read here, that's what I did

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